both jailkeeper and bodyguard are protectives and it's just a safe general assumption to assume that there is protection. But yeah, protection ablities have already been claimed anyways.In post 1873, RCEnigma wrote:You would have to know we have a protective to make this statement.
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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{Garmr, Sephiroth, Shattiel, Performer, Carcalilly} <== Very probably town
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This is what i'm working off in terms of a read-list"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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In post 1874, RCEnigma wrote:If your case wasn't solely "I know this and I know that" I'd slightly consider if it could come from town or not.In post 533, Wisdom wrote:because thats a random conclusion and the way you push it like ot should be obvious is why i scumread you
Here's Wisdom power mislynching me b/c I believe things that I believe.In post 2478, Jeanne11 wrote:Nero Cain has been lynched. He was:
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I'll be opening the PTs within 24 hours unless someone objects.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I thought this post was where xx2008 moves from "I'm playing the noob card" into some definitive stances:In post 1823, xx2008 wrote:I somewhat find saudade's sheeping on fl's vote to be towny. fl is a confirmed town, and in the event that he votes a scum player, it would be hard for saudade to decline voting that person if he himself were scum.
I think ap could be fake claiming. It's strange how we have one town PR dead and two claimed. It's unlikely there are so many PRs in one game, as I remembered in the beginning of the game that people said our mod generally designed setups with few PRs. It's easier to claim disloyal rb and get away with it for scum. I'm currently scumreading him.
It would be hard to claim a multitasking JOAT and not be found out later in the game, so I believe performer's claim.
ofrhz is actively contributing and trying to find scum, which I like. However, I think him sheeping day1 wasn't exactly towny, which makes me wonder about his alignment.
I disagree with the logic on Saudade, but he has decided Saudade is towny.
He has also decided AP is a fake claim and finds it scummy.
Whilst XX believes Perf, he doesn't specify an alignment. Although Perf got a couple of null results, I think a JOAT claim would be tough to fake long term anyway, arguably an easy slot to say that's towny.
So we have ofrhz is actively contributing and Nero is disputing that - mental note to see what I think here.
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I'm actually not. I'm saying she's more active in this game then she has been before. There's a big diddrence in what I'm saying and what you are saying I'm saying.In post 1878, profii wrote:So we have ofrhz is actively contributing and Nero is disputing that
Though TBF, I'm slightly rethinking my Ofrhz scum read b/c I forgot she was a Flubber CW.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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sorry that wasn't clear, that's my fault
XX is town reading Ofrhz for actively contributing, nero is disputing that read and is scum reading - is more accurate.
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I'll try to explain the Gamma Emerald read.
I'll just say that for someone so active there's not a whole lot of reads out of him.
A lot of it is general commentary and asking questions rather than coming to reads and conclusions.
So looking busy - but not actually producing much
This was okay in Day 1 while he was catching up but it's Day 2 and there's still not a whole lot out of him.
In post 1410, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not caught up but intend to get caught up when I can
I know I am townreading xx200Late, I distrust Sephiroth for being so buddy-buddy with Flubber, but beyond that I’m not too sureThis seems to be his only scum-read.
I thought his exchange with Nos was very weak too as i was going over the thread. He backed down way too easily imo.
I'm not giving him much points for Flubber vote, because it was an unexplained vote and then he didn't actually push it"And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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OK, Nero probably town for that erratic behaviour. I've seen him do that more often than not. Of course, this also means REC is Town bc when Nero is in that mood he almost always tunnels Town.
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you aren't even in this game.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 1873, RCEnigma wrote:
You would have to know we have a protective to make this statement.In post 1867, Nero Cain wrote:
He's also gonna be protected so thanks for letting us know you guys have a strongman.In post 1865, RCEnigma wrote:I guess win town points with FL, who likely doesn't make it to tomorrow anyways
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What are your feelings on this Max?In post 1875, Nero Cain wrote:
both jailkeeper and bodyguard are protectives and it's just a safe general assumption to assume that there is protection. But yeah, protection ablities have already been claimed anyways.In post 1873, RCEnigma wrote:You would have to know we have a protective to make this statement.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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No, he's not. Get out of here you clown *AP kicks A50 in the butt*In post 1882, Almost50 wrote:OK, Nero probably town for that erratic behaviour. I've seen him do that more often than not. Of course, this also means REC is Town bc when Nero is in that mood he almost always tunnels Town.YEAH BABY YEAH!
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I don't think it's a particular scum-slip if that's what you're askingIn post 1884, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1873, RCEnigma wrote:
You would have to know we have a protective to make this statement.In post 1867, Nero Cain wrote:
He's also gonna be protected so thanks for letting us know you guys have a strongman.In post 1865, RCEnigma wrote:I guess win town points with FL, who likely doesn't make it to tomorrow anyways
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What are your feelings on this Max?In post 1875, Nero Cain wrote:
both jailkeeper and bodyguard are protectives and it's just a safe general assumption to assume that there is protection. But yeah, protection ablities have already been claimed anyways.In post 1873, RCEnigma wrote:You would have to know we have a protective to make this statement."And before anyone bitches about me highlighting PoD's 437 when I replaced in and called everyone on my wagon communists, I remind you that communism is not alignment-indicative" - Belisarius
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Forgot about Performers jailkeep so fair enough. But he's already stated severe limitations on his ability use and that bad things happen upon using them all. So it's still not guaranteed.In post 1875, Nero Cain wrote:
both jailkeeper and bodyguard are protectives and it's just a safe general assumption to assume that there is protection. But yeah, protection ablities have already been claimed anyways.In post 1873, RCEnigma wrote:You would have to know we have a protective to make this statement.-
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well i was just looking for what you meant by bad things can happen if he keeps using all his powers - ive missed thatIn post 1888, RCEnigma wrote:Profii what makes a joat claim hard to sustain as scum?
so answering before knowing what that means...
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him not really doing anythingIn post 1889, RCEnigma wrote:Nos what is your scumread on Maxous based on?
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