In post 174, Dunnstral wrote:I wasn't aware that Not_Mafia did anything in games
Read the game, Newbie 1900.
There was a wagon on me and I got to L-1, Not_Mafia didn't lolhammer; instead he called my wagon "blatantly scumdriven", then voted Flavor Leaf who was on it. Flavor unvoted and then Not_Mafia unvoted FL, saying "he doesn't risk destabilizing the wagon", and we all showered him with strong townreads.
Then he just coasted along to the win.
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Nah, my expectations from the players I know in this list are pretty high, unlike Not_Mafia, so I wouldn't be locktowning them in the same way. I do think I can sort some of the familiar players here easily -- NotNova, Egix at least. Maybe you too
I did realize I tend to town players who townread me and whose posts I find myself agreeing with (like Ariane in 1900 and Cleric in 1899), so I am vulnerable to pockets.
In post 136, Auro wrote:Dunnstral's post 25 I dislike a lot -- after two fluff posts, he places a "completely random vote" on *me*, when I already had two votes and my wagon was growing.
In post 173, Auro wrote:I just finished a game where I locktowned scum
Why would you ever locktown anyone (aside from certain claims in certain setups)?
When someone plays so differently to their usual style? Maybe "locktown" is the wrong word, but almost all of us (FL, Performer, Me) towned him enough to never lynch him during the game.
In post 136, Auro wrote:Dunnstral's post 25 I dislike a lot -- after two fluff posts, he places a "completely random vote" on *me*, when I already had two votes and my wagon was growing.
And that's scummy rather than towny because...?
The phrasing, "completely random vote" when I was collecting votes and my wagon was growing quick, with no vote till then.
Even if you naked voted I'd prolly just think you're wagoning because there's a wagon -- specifically saying "completely random vote" to join my wagon seems off to me, sorry.
In post 191, Persivul wrote:1. You really think he's so inept at scum that he'd try to disguise a purposeful vote by outright announcing it as a completely random vote?
2. Two votes /= collecting votes and my wagon was growing quick. Why the hyperbole?
Why does someone have to be inept for me to dislike something they did or said? Why would it be "inept" for Dunnstral to do that as scum?
Two votes on page 1 and I don't think it's a bad *page 1* conclusion to make that "Auro is getting wagoned".
In post 188, Dunnstral wrote:You'd be pushing me if I voted someone other than you too
There are other reasons beyond my dislike of that post because of which I'm fine just with a Dunnstral lunch today. Where did I "push you" specifically?
Dunnstral wrote:Earlier you were asking a player why they were "making a new wagon and breaking momentum" instead of voting you
Their vote was already on me and they broke that momentum, why is that an invalid question? Why does my asking that question imply I shouldn't dislike your post where you voted me?
In post 129, Auro wrote:I don't think scum overthink THAT much, because self-consciousness at one point becomes obvious.
Your logic could be applied to any tell, I feel - "Scum would avoid tell X, therefore X is a buzzword and BS tell". Would you agree?
Any tell that can be consciously avoided, yes. For instance, forced reads and interactions are scumtells, but they're scumtells because the players who do them can't avoid sounding forced.
But in general, yes, you've keyed into my philosophy, which is that towntells are far more reliable than scumtells.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
I seem to recall liking NotNova although I can't remember why off the top of my head.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
Well after checking it seems he only has three posts so I might have just been misremembering, but 76 does read as pretty genuine.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!