STELLARIS MAFIA - [Mafia Win]

[Shadowlesscloud]

>when im still the only person to claim their role and its nearing Lylo

[Shadowlesscloud]

>when im still the only person to claim their role and its nearing Lylo

Actually there was one other but point still stands

[Shadowlesscloud]

I hate people are Naying this.

We approve it: Town has influence on the next 2 deaths
We Deny it: Town has influence on one and the other is always killing a townie

[Shadowlesscloud]

>when im still the only person to claim their role and its nearing Lylo

Didn't you claim tracker or something?

I have a Mind over Matter type Civic from the start. Used the tracker on Penguin last night to see who he visited to check if he was the mafia delivering the kills. It was stopped by something.

I also have a civic that changes how i get AP. I get 1 AP if a Mafia is lynched, if im not on wagon. I get 2 if a maf is lynched and I AM on the wagon. I USUALLY would get 0 for any town lynches.

(Hence why i picked up Very Adaptive as it gives me an AP even if its a town lynch)

So far, ive picked up the Federation and Mind over Matter as I hope to lynch a scum today and get the cop check tonight for me to use tomorrow/bait a kill with Voidborne

[Shadowlesscloud]

Actually, roleblocked tracker... I think shadow just slipped

Oh youre gonna have to explain this one

[Shadowlesscloud]

To be 100% clear, my results was that my action had failed, whether this was a direct roleblock or something else, *shrug*

[Shadowlesscloud]

Shadowless you can’t cop check tonight the AP only becomes available to you the next day.
Scum just shoot you after the lynch if we lynch scum today assuming you actually are town.

Why do you think i want the double lynch? If we go that route and i lynch scum on the first one, i should be able to have voidborne and the check read going into the night where maf can kill again

[Shadowlesscloud]

Thats fair.

my throw away civic was an extra unnamed vote that I can move around.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also, I’m more likely to want to confirm Dunnstral over you getting ur cop shot tbh even if that does work.
You could be lieing
Dunnstral literally has a trait that confirms his alignment or not and is public knowledge

.....no. Ive already explained why he might not. There are Civics that alter how people gain AP. Why are we still talking about this?

[Shadowlesscloud]

>when im still the only person to claim their role and its nearing Lylo

Didn't you claim tracker or something?

I have a Mind over Matter type Civic from the start. Used the tracker on Penguin last night to see who he visited to check if he was the mafia delivering the kills. It was stopped by something.

I also have a civic that changes how i get AP. I get 1 AP if a Mafia is lynched, if im not on wagon. I get 2 if a maf is lynched and I AM on the wagon. I USUALLY would get 0 for any town lynches.

(Hence why i picked up Very Adaptive as it gives me an AP even if its a town lynch)

So far, ive picked up the Federation and Mind over Matter as I hope to lynch a scum today and get the cop check tonight for me to use tomorrow/bait a kill with Voidborne

Actually, roleblocked tracker... I think shadow just slipped

Oh youre gonna have to explain this one

I didn't remember exactly what you said and I generally call roleblocked to a failed action it just semmed weird to me that you claimed that and forgot but i guess extra abilities are not considered roles?? Smh

Claimed what and forgot???

p-edit: And thats nly if thy get lucky and let the level 1 of a tech. They could get stuck with 2 level 0s

[Shadowlesscloud]

Who here is against massclaiming??

p-edit: I DIDNT FORGET I CLAIMED THE USE OF MY TRACKER ABILITY?!

pp-edit: YEs because i still dont get why we are letting Scum control who dies

[Shadowlesscloud]

Who here is against massclaiming??

p-edit: I DIDNT FORGET I CLAIMED THE USE OF MY TRACKER ABILITY?!

pp-edit: YEs because i still dont get why we are letting Scum control who dies

I REMEMBERED YOU CLAIMING USING A TRACKING ABILITY, HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW IF THAT WAS AP TRAIT TECH MEGAZORD OR JUTSU?????

because i mentioned it was apart of my role?? And I didnt get Mind over Matter until last night and I wouldnt have access to that until tonight??

[Shadowlesscloud]

Who here is against massclaiming??

p-edit: I DIDNT FORGET I CLAIMED THE USE OF MY TRACKER ABILITY?!

pp-edit: YEs because i still dont get why we are letting Scum control who dies

I REMEMBERED YOU CLAIMING USING A TRACKING ABILITY, HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW IF THAT WAS AP TRAIT TECH MEGAZORD OR JUTSU?????

because i mentioned it was apart of my role?? And I didnt get Mind over Matter until last night and I wouldnt have access to that until tonight??

I mean you could have had it as your civic from the start what tells me otherwise?

What are you arguing here? I openly claimed the powers was from a civic ive had from the start?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Should I start pushing actual scum?

Wasnt MAria supposed to come in and talk about this?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Treat today as lylo.

If we assume there exists a federation with 1 scum 1 town (VERY likely)

that 1 townie inside the federation is prevented from voting unless voting with the mafia as well - it is therefore impossible to form a majority on a member of the mafia (barring more voting shenanigans from town)

Snakeboy reads MAria as obvtown

I read Eragon as Obvtown

Eragon reads me as town

Eragon and I both read snakeboy as town (though he has fallen since sod)

[Shadowlesscloud]

i feel bad cause im 90% sure Eragon has talked more in the fed chat then in the game thread but i cant exactly control that.

I will say i believe there to be a town between snakeboi, maria, dunn as they want to all join a fed which limits their power from reaching maximum

[Shadowlesscloud]

Has everybody explained their trait choices?

Varsoon, why did you take durable?

I believe i did.

Very adaptive was to cancel out the negative part of my civic incase the game went to shit. (Thank god i got it)

Repugnant was because of how limited my initial abilities were and it lets people see who i visit when once i get more from tech/AP

[Shadowlesscloud]

Like theres nothing wrong with letting people i know i visited them so whywould I not pick it up

[Shadowlesscloud]

Who are the poe scum?

me and Maria think we caught scum!V so I think this is where I am going to push today after seeing certain posts that were being made
VOTE: Varsoon

Case coming up soon

Gonna have to be a good case considering 0verki11 is a thing

[Shadowlesscloud]

Who are the poe scum?

me and Maria think we caught scum!V so I think this is where I am going to push today after seeing certain posts that were being made
VOTE: Varsoon

Case coming up soon

Gonna have to be a good case considering 0verki11 is a thing

I think its pretty good and the read is backed on Maria's confidence to not misread V.
What she had to say to about him kinda sold me on him

Can you do me a favor and atleast try to mark who came upw ith what on the case? Like its mot much and shouldnt be taken with a grain of salt but it would atleast hopefullt help see what Maria had going on in her head

[Shadowlesscloud]

Who are the poe scum?

me and Maria think we caught scum!V so I think this is where I am going to push today after seeing certain posts that were being made
VOTE: Varsoon

Case coming up soon

This is a scum push.

Has everybody explained their trait choices?

Varsoon, why did you take durable?

I didn't want to get shot and die.

OK.



I think that's scum reasoning, whereas town should want to take, say, a cop check along with a few other people to try to confirm someone

I already had a cop check.
Show me the Mechanical Trait that is a cop check, though?

Logic engines. You could check my post about tracking PP but my ability failing

[Shadowlesscloud]

Like its weak but its there

[Shadowlesscloud]

Go ahead and let Mafia get an NK tonight even though the techs won't help them nearly as much--whatever full-throttles this game into being over with. It's obvious you rude assholes don't care.


P-EDIT

IGNORING STATEMENTS ABOUT ALIGNMENT AND SPECULATION

me saying i tracked and failed on PP isnt speculation

[Shadowlesscloud]

Var does have a point. Picking it up is publically broadcasting you have TI potential

[Shadowlesscloud]

Stopping the mafia from killing tonight doesn't help us

10 people alive isn't much better than 9 people alive

Meh, I guess it does require 1 more to lynch, which may save us

Ok i might be disagreeing with how Var is saying it but wow this is a bad post

[Shadowlesscloud]

This is a scum push.

I haven't even published it and your moving so quickly to try to discredit me and my creditability.

You need this to see if me and maria's concerns are genuine too, why attack me instead of waiting for me to finsh writing it up so you can respond to it to see if our concerns are genuine or not?

what are you waiting for case wise?

[Shadowlesscloud]

the night 1 kill was on nero cain. He had the enduring trait.

Penguinpowers had the venerable trait as well, which was the same thing for federations

I'm the only one with venerable left

I feel this is extremely important to point out

and if we lynch scum, ill have voidborne and a Cop check.

p-edit: "Yeah stopping the scum from freely choosing who to kill isnt really helping town" When your just talked about how your afriad of being nightkilled

[Shadowlesscloud]

How does having 10 people alive instead of 9 help us?

because we are guaranteeing that one of the next two kills wont be fully decided by scum, thats how it helps us.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Desperate Measures: Aye

p-edit: holy crap, let me read this rq

[Shadowlesscloud]

Decent case. But what struck me out esspecally is the inifinity machine. If a scum was wanting to do this, they would do it for the tech gains right?

But wouldnt they need to already be ahead on tech for it to matter?

*Wasnt Var the one that got the tech boost earlier?*

[Shadowlesscloud]

the night 1 kill was on nero cain. He had the enduring trait.

no, he was the lynch

ok, you're right, and FA just had talented

This feels genuine, gotta check the timing though

[Shadowlesscloud]

the night 1 kill was on nero cain. He had the enduring trait.

no, he was the lynch

ok, you're right, and FA just had talented

Ok the timing is really fucking iffy

[Shadowlesscloud]

two minute difference. Usually its meh but it was also right after the single most lengthy post in the game so far.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Decent case. But what struck me out esspecally is the inifinity machine. If a scum was wanting to do this, they would do it for the tech gains right?

But wouldnt they need to already be ahead on tech for it to matter?

*Wasnt Var the one that got the tech boost earlier?*

Yes
I think its likely that V just wants to remove as many resources from the town as possible.
Scum have motivation to go for the infinity machine. Why?
Well considering the short Day 1 and 2 we had, its another resource town doesn't have if he gets it.

All of V's actions here is just trying to deplete resources from an already damaged town.
This especially shows with his desperate measures stance.

Desperate measures is good for town if: Mafia are behind on tech as they dont gain any real bonuses

BUT if Var is not town, then he would be granted alot of power by DM in return for losing control of the kill

IF Var is not town then i think the other mafia are widely townread players as he is not afraid of them being lynched

[Shadowlesscloud]

I WAS THE ONE WHO KEPT SCUM FROM GETTING IT.

Actually, so far, everyone who has flipped and been a candadite for it has been town. PP should have gotten it 100% but thats w.e.

Let me get the reads list me and Eragon agreed on

[Shadowlesscloud]

town- (Mephistophanes, Jalandh, Eragon)
town lean- (tschiunko, varsoon, dunnstral)
null town- (Despair Galaxy)
null- (Maria)
Null scum- (keyser)
scum lean- (Joan, 0ver)

This was what we agreed on last night before waking up today. (IRL last night)

GRanted there has been movement imo since the sod but 0verki11 has solidified themselves as scum to me.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Tell me why I shouldn't self-vote right now out of spite.

FCause thats antitown and i think your better then that

[Shadowlesscloud]

First

[Shadowlesscloud]

@Host Are we not allowed to know what his wincon was?

Also sad he was modkilled but I was gonna push him hard for picking abilities that look like he was trying to gain a KP

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also EVERYONE HARD CLAIMS RN. DONT GET YOURSELF MODKILLED BUT WE ARE IN MYLO.


p-edit:

Oh? His rolecard said aligned with himself?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also EVERYONE HARD CLAIMS RN. DONT GET YOURSELF MODKILLED BUT WE ARE IN MYLO.


p-edit:

Oh? His rolecard said aligned with himself?

Upon being mod-killed he was stripped of his alignment and therefore win-condition. He cannot win the game anymore.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Shadowlesscloud]

We're in MYLO, how can you not figure out his wincon?

I would say we no lynch today, to gather as much information as possible. LYLO is much preferable to MYLO, but the way I read it, the event may actually just remove that option.

@mod is this correct?

-BR455

I was imagining he was a NC or NK that cant win with Mafia. Therefore it was being considered Town+Varsoon vs Mafia

[Shadowlesscloud]

We're in MYLO, how can you not figure out his wincon?

I would say we no lynch today, to gather as much information as possible. LYLO is much preferable to MYLO, but the way I read it, the event may actually just remove that option.

@mod is this correct?

-BR455

The event was rendered null as it may not apply in XYLO. Lol

No no, look at the final thing in the "new" event. "The player with most votes will be lynched"

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also, I see no reason for me to claim because my claim adds 0 information to the game. If you wish to scumread me for that so be it.

VOTE: MariaR[/b]

Sorry snakebro but Im not gonna let this slide in Mylo. Also where are the reads snakebro promised youd bring?

[Shadowlesscloud]

fucking

VOTE: MariaR

[Shadowlesscloud]

Imagine possibly being town and throwing a game because someone isn't claiming. That's a yikes. My 'reads' were going to be posted until the thread got paused and now we got put in this spot. I'm voting over or keyser most likely. However, I was hard scumreading varsoon so I'm gonna recheck a few things.

Imagine possibly being town and keeping info away from town in Mylo. Thats a yikes. And did all of your reads center around on Varsoon being scum?

[Shadowlesscloud]

I just woke up I plan on fullclaiming in a bit since thats correct considering its mylo

Snakebro yeh? Aight

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also I told this information to Maria
If she actually is scum, I guess I will out this information in thread too.

That are 3 other traits above the survivor trait.
I went Engineered Evolution because I believe that there is a tech that in combination with Engineering Mastery or maybe just even Engineered Evolution, unlocks those traits.
I believe the tech I am looking for is genetic sequencing or something along those lines.
I learned this just by looking into some flavor, I can show my work later, but I already showed this off to MariaR.

This along with me wanted to get rid of my weak as quickly as possible are the main reasons why I went Engineered Evolution.
As I said, I don’t really feel like getting instantly lynched and hammered considering thats been the trend for the past few days so...

I disagree, though I would love to see your work on it as its merely speculation on my end.

My biggest thing is "Delicious" which is weird? I feel like those traits were open for specific players of a speific race.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Just checked out and possibly. I need to check it out to make sure that everything else in it matches over

[Shadowlesscloud]

Already found a problem.

In that wiki, you need Transcendence to gain Psionic. Yet here, you only need Mind over matter which is levels before Transcendence.

As well as Mind over Matter specifically says it gives the trait while nothing in the Engeineer Evolution tree mentions those three traits

p-edit: What does a reloader do?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also Snakebro, me trying to ask is only gonna end with more headbutting. Can you talk to MariaR in your fed chat and try to get her to claim?

[Shadowlesscloud]

As well as Mind over Matter specifically says it gives the trait while nothing in the Engeineer Evolution tree mentions those three traits

p-edit: What does a reloader do?

It gives an additional shot of actions to people I target!
I just researched nights 1 and 2 though due to the lack of really good targets.
Though I will probably act tonight!

*wink wink*

Ok what is the reason for this. You dont want to claim because it doesnt help town by us knowing but youll publically say your important enough to have Snakebro give you another charge?

This also means youve been using charges of whatever your ability you have.

@Snakebro has she claimed to you atleast?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dunn. Read. Desperate Measures has been canceled because we are in Mylo now. There is no choice to do it.

[Shadowlesscloud]

So Joan is confirmed town, right?

No??

[Shadowlesscloud]

The measures are only approved if more people vote in favour than against by the end of the Day.

There were 3 votes in favor of desperate measures, and 2 votes against it

Day 3 didn't end.

-brass

But it will end

Your not reading. Desperate Measures was canceled because of the modkill. There is no choice anymore.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Did Joan not friendly neighbor Varsoon?

Role confirmed yes. Not alignment. Notice the wording, Neighbor, not mason

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dunn, claim plz

[Shadowlesscloud]

*sigh* if only Varsoon wasnt dead, he could help clear this up.

[Shadowlesscloud]

If you were confirmed town, then why are you still alive? iirc, Varsoon said that yesterday? \

Yes Dunn

p-edit: Just think its weird is all. And thats fine Joan.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Anyways my plan to take ascendance for being on scum wagon is now useless since we are on Mylo. Best I can hope for is using one of my two Watcher abilities and try to catch scum

[Shadowlesscloud]

If you were confirmed town, then why are you still alive? iirc, Varsoon said that yesterday? \

Yes Dunn

p-edit: Just think its weird is all. And thats fine Joan.

Because with Tsuchinoko going on and on about how bad of a player I am, do you really believe I would be deemed dangerous enough to be killed pronto?

Yes. You think they would want to bring a confirmed town into Mylo/Lylo at any point of the game, no matter how good or bad they are/

p-edit: From everything ive seen, that seems likely the case Dunn

[Shadowlesscloud]

Again, Joan is confirmed town to me. There's literally no reason for me not to share my role unless I'm scum there.

Aight well thats good. Since im pretty sure that we are NLing here, Joan should be given a gun tonight and NOONE is allowed to vote. This gives town 100% of the power in Lylo

[Shadowlesscloud]

Again, Joan is confirmed town to me. There's literally no reason for me not to share my role unless I'm scum there.

Aight well thats good. Since im pretty sure that we are NLing here, Joan should be given a gun tonight and NOONE is allowed to vote. This gives town 100% of the power in Lylo

This forces the scum nightkill to go onto Joan you realize this right?

And they would have to visit where I would see them.

[Shadowlesscloud]

It becomes whether you believe me over the person that killed Joan, making it a 1v1 instead of purely reads.

[Shadowlesscloud]

that being said my ability did fail last night so /shrug.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Again, Joan is confirmed town to me. There's literally no reason for me not to share my role unless I'm scum there.

Aight well thats good. Since im pretty sure that we are NLing here, Joan should be given a gun tonight and NOONE is allowed to vote. This gives town 100% of the power in Lylo

This forces the scum nightkill to go onto Joan you realize this right?

And they would have to visit where I would see them.

Oh you plan on watching that?
that could work.

....Why would I not watch the confirmed town at this point?

[Shadowlesscloud]

We're not nling

We are definitely NLing with Overkill giving Joan a gun. If mafia no kills, then we can shoot AND lynch tomorrow

[Shadowlesscloud]

Why in the world is NL bad?

Choices for Mafia to be forced to make:

Kill Joan - Removes confirmed town but makes Lylo a 1v1 situation instead of purely read based
Kill Me - Lylo is in the hands of a confirmed town with 100% of the power + kills a player some people view as scummy
Kill someone else - Same as killing me

p-edit: lmao when scum sees their plan backfiring

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dunn, can you claim yet?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Theres def atleast, AT THE VERY LEAST one scum between {Keyser, Dunn, 0verki11, MariaR}

p-edit: Dude it doesnt matter. At all. Like. The entire point of it before was giving Joan the power to control Lylo tomorrow or force scum to kill them.

Now, they dont even have to worry about em.

You correcting yourself there was so antitown

[Shadowlesscloud]

at the very least it will confirm my ability

That is true Ig. HAve 2 confirmed town if youre not killed by giving it to Joan.

Id have to Wifom between the both of you.

[Shadowlesscloud]

ACTUALLY HOLD UP, ERAGON MIGHT HAVE TAKEN MIND OVER MATTER AS WELL, ONE MOMENT

[Shadowlesscloud]

Just checked the fed, Eragon also went MoM. Eragon can watch one while I watch the other. Its not TOTALLY ruined.

[Shadowlesscloud]

nling serves no purpose, joan holding the gun isn't the end all be all, it puts us back to even numbers

It does serve a purpose, I just said why.

Also claiming anytime soon?

[Shadowlesscloud]

@overkill how many guns can you give?

[Shadowlesscloud]

The longer the gae goes on with me alive, the more AP i get. Joan shoots scum tomorrow and we NL again, I will get Transcendance. They will have to gamble on killing me and if i use voidborne to block the kill.

[Shadowlesscloud]

It's okay I know Eragon won't vote me here.
Shadow should also unvote anyway but it's doubtful he will

Hence why im voting tbh though im surprised you think that when your one of his scumreads. Its mainly a pressure vote which you kinda just ignored.

UNVOTE:

[Shadowlesscloud]

Eragon and me had a hard tr on each other and never took it off in a game we played. I know for damn sure he wouldn't vote me without talking to me first. Also yeah, pressure votes don't work on me. *shrug*

I mean...weve tried talking to you lol Anyways so because of the hard TR one game, you think itll move over to this game despite him saying he scumreads you?

[Shadowlesscloud]

...ok. Im sorry if i seem like a broken record but how are the reads coming?

[Shadowlesscloud]

fucking

VOTE: MariaR

We're not nling

We are definitely NLing with Overkill giving Joan a gun. If mafia no kills, then we can shoot AND lynch tomorrow

Can we adress the fact that Shadow wants to lynch maria but also NL?

The longer the gae goes on with me alive, the more AP i get. Joan shoots scum tomorrow and we NL again, I will get Transcendance. They will have to gamble on killing me and if i use voidborne to block the kill.

and that he is apparently... going mad with power?

Can we also Adress the fact that we would have to believe overkill's word for his ability that can be easilly claimed to be roleblocked?

Im gonna give you a townread for this for a reason I think Mafia already has realized that I didnt think of before now. I wont say it though jic mafia hasnt figured it out.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Can you quote me something of Eragons? That way I can iso him here.

p-edit: Oh majority is gone?

WAIT THAT THIRD SENTTNCE, HOW TF

[Shadowlesscloud]

Oh, I guess this could be mafia together and make it 5-5. But I tr Eragon anyway

Untrue. 4 mafia members. The other two could join a Fed last minute and snipe a wagon 6-5. Thankfully im town so you dont have to worry about that

[Shadowlesscloud]

also dw about the Eragon thing, thought he posted less but thats cause i remember him almost soley from our Fed.

Can you give some explinations on each? Im patient now that I actually have a list to see where Snakebro and your head is at.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I don't know if Snakebros reads are exactly matching to mine. You'd have to ask.

I put both of your names because he had influence over them. Therefore, they are a mix of both of your reads and their own.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also @Dunn when you come back, can you claim please? Already asking Eragon to claim as he hasnt even claimed in the fed chat

p-edit: Sorry. calling it as i see it. As you cant really prove you didnt influence her reads, im tying them to you both. To come back to if one of you flip scum

[Shadowlesscloud]

town- (Mephistophanes, Eragon)
town lean- (Joan)
null town- (tschiunko, Despair Galaxy)
null- (Maria)
Null scum- (keyser)
scum lean- (dunnstram, 0ver)

p-edit: Wym you would get other scum make a fed? and i said ONE of you. Not both. Might have just bumped the both of you down with that response Maria...

[Shadowlesscloud]

town lean- (Joan)

huh

I made that list before the talk about confirmed town and all that tbh. Copied it from the Fed chat.

[Shadowlesscloud]

like you haven't rly said anything about it, like even if you are going to say no, atleast say that then nothing?
pedit: Yeah I'm aware, this game is shit, and scum made it shit.

Tbf, its been town thats made it shit every time and everyone of them is confirmed town either through death or mechanics.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Like, the only thing scum has really done to make this shit is to kill PP

[Shadowlesscloud]

...Really? Can you make a case for the two of us then?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Once Eragon has had a chance to read the fed chat and get anything he needs, ill be closing it

p-edit: Please do, ill gladly wait. @MariaR have you worked on your case for any of your reads or should I not hold up on them?

[Shadowlesscloud]

I was gonna bait him into scumtelling more you goofball.

Is scumtelling the word you meant to use here btw? This infers you know my meta

[Shadowlesscloud]

I was gonna bait him into scumtelling more you goofball.

Is scumtelling the word you meant to use here btw? This infers you know my meta

I don't know your meta but I was gonna prompt you with a few lines.
I'm going to give reasons for my reads but I don't think I should do so tonight given they'd be half assed with how tired I am at the moment.

Aight, what lines? (More for curiosity sake then game related sake. Most people can read me day 1 and carry that through the entire game so I dont get many chances like this)

And cool, that is one advantage of these games. with 12 hour days, you cant afford things like that

[Shadowlesscloud]

I was gonna ask you about why you think you were blocked.
A bit more details on a few reads.
Along with a bit of mech talk.
Probably a bit more depending on your answers but those were the main 3

I mean go for it. Im honestly a bit confused why I was blocked, I claimed end of d2 to not be able to visit. The only thing that really comes to mind is possibly a jailkeeper ability was used on me? But that doesnt make sense as PP also claimed the same and was townier then I so??
Go ahead, they are a mix of Eragon and I. He talked to me way more then he has out in the open.
Not sure how much mech insight I can give but I would be happy to try.

[Shadowlesscloud]

modding wise
I promise that 2019 is literally nothing but fun games
I just need to work with people to make sure that nothing but fun gets modded

This reminds me, after this game is finished, Eragon and I are probably gonna run this again on our home site. We would be keeping the base game the same, changing up the roles ofc.

Most of everyone here is invited :3 we were just talking and it is a shame that this amazing game got ruined by very questionable choices

[Shadowlesscloud]

modding wise
I promise that 2019 is literally nothing but fun games
I just need to work with people to make sure that nothing but fun gets modded

This reminds me, after this game is finished, Eragon and I are probably gonna run this again on our home site. We would be keeping the base game the same, changing up the roles ofc.

Most of everyone here is invited :3 we were just talking and it is a shame that this amazing game got ruined by very questionable choices

[Shadowlesscloud]

woops

[Shadowlesscloud]

modding wise
I promise that 2019 is literally nothing but fun games
I just need to work with people to make sure that nothing but fun gets modded

This reminds me, after this game is finished, Eragon and I are probably gonna run this again on our home site. We would be keeping the base game the same, changing up the roles ofc.

Most of everyone here is invited :3 we were just talking and it is a shame that this amazing game got ruined by very questionable choices

What is your home site?

ToS. That being said, we know the nature of most of the players there so itd be Invitational only.

We were talking of runnning it on MU but the voting mechanics just dont really fit.

[Shadowlesscloud]

modding wise
I promise that 2019 is literally nothing but fun games
I just need to work with people to make sure that nothing but fun gets modded

This reminds me, after this game is finished, Eragon and I are probably gonna run this again on our home site. We would be keeping the base game the same, changing up the roles ofc.

Most of everyone here is invited :3 we were just talking and it is a shame that this amazing game got ruined by very questionable choices

What is your home site?

ToS. That being said, we know the nature of most of the players there so itd be Invitational only.

We were talking of runnning it on MU but the voting mechanics just dont really fit.

How about running it on VendettaStrada? The players on that site are nice.

Getting the players wouldnt be much of an issue imo as I feel this was kinda ruined and alot of you also see the potential this has. That being said, this is better for post game talk.

[Shadowlesscloud]

@hosts if i leave my fed, would Eragon be able to read the posts still? Like instead of booting us, can you just lock it?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Pretty good! Almost done, but something like this is where I'm at.

Joan of Arc:

Friendly neighbor on varsoon pretty easy

Eragon

I think this is Eragons town game. Considering I don't think he's SvS with Shadow his iso here isn't so bad. I have no real issue with it along with the fact he reminds of the game we played before. If anyone has real reason to sr him let me know.

Tsuchinoko (Alisae & Singletonking)

Of course, I'm slightly biased on this read since they helped get me into this game. This could 100% be them trying to be scum and pocketing me. While I ran over that idea in my head they still appeared towny to me and the conversation we had seemed genuine. I don't feel like they really tried to change my reads/manipulate me. If anything I was the one trying to convince them. So yeah, I think they're town.

Mephistophanes 39 (Aristophanes & Nancy Drew 39)

They're role usage makes no sense to me as scum. I don't think a scumteam with Meph on it allows them to use such a strong power on firestarter when firestarters role was already conf. To me it feels like town looking at a slot they considered scummy. Along with 1 or 2 posts I townread from them besides this. So yeah

Dunnstral

Mostly has no do with his trait picks than anything else. His reads are also matching up with mine (somewhat) I wouldn't lynch Dunnstral today over the other 4 in question by a long shot.

Shadowlesscloud

Talked about this with snak but shadowless play screams of a play scum can make when it comes to his role along with a few plays that make me really question him. I think he would've been more null if it wasn't for this day phase. He's certainly putting in a lot of effort, but I don't think that effort is getting somewhere. I think I'm most puzzled on the want to NL right now.

Despair Galaxy (Brassherald & JunkoChan)

If I got a read wrong it's prob here. I just hate how they played around the firestarters slot. It didn't feel that genuine to me along with the quick votes. If someone has the power to vote a lot just like you and you know from your pov you're town. Why can that logic not apply to other slots? I've seen some decent posts but overall just meh

Keyser Söze

Mostly Poe. Very very lackluster iso it's bland not really much content. Could this be a ML? Yeah prob in some cases, but considering who I tr I'd be fine with this slot dying.

0verki11

The claim is just bad and super convenient. The few pushes they've tried to make feel half-assed and shallow they're just not doing anything and I don't feel comfortable with them in the game. I'd happily lynch them.

Although, I think one of my townreads are incorrect because I see some things that make me not confident the 4 people I have atm would be the outright scumteam.

Yesss, this is what I needed. Something to converse with you about other then empty reads and promises. Ok, let me dig through this and respond.

Joan: Self explanitory, not bothering to touch it.

Eragon: We did just finish a game where he was scum thats making me want to think hes not town but I would need more proof as everything before that games end made me scream hes town.

Snakebro: Ehh, even if your being honest and they didnt, just having this infDGo could make a big difference. Say 0verki11 was scumbuddy with Snakebro. Having this, he could have encouraged 0ver to post more and coach him along. Over all though, hes definitely not on the table to lynch today.

Mephi: Agreed with the ability usage. Also the way Nancy was still clueless about the mechanics felt genuine and considering a mafia chat would almost definitely have them explaining and talking about it, I dont see a way that they are scum at this point.

Dunn: Ehh, its been a full day and they have still refused to openly claim despite being asked multiple times. Its different then outright refusing as he could be asking in mafia chat what a believeable claim could be. Remember, the rush into Mylo has also bee a surprise to scum as all the actions leading up to this as been town. I havent looked at their trait picks yet but it didnt stick out to me on d2 like PP did.

Shadowless(Myself) If you want, I can give you the link to my latest scum game? That should give you some insight to how my meta is. The effort part I can agree with honestly. So far ive thought everything that has happened has been scummy but every time, that person has flipped town. Its deflated me and I think thats whats partially causing me to be so irritable this game. (sorry again.)

So regarding the NL thing. Right now, its 4v4 with a confirmed townie to try to help sort. We all need to agree on someone because if we dont have 4 votes ATLEAST by eod, then scum can all hop on and Snipe the ML. Thats kinda why having no majority right now is iffy. The best thing we can all agree on is NLing as that guarrentees it doesnt lose the game for town right then.

I alo gave many situations where NLing is pro town via night actions and results. However, I held back something that Joan made me realize. I was 'roleblocked' or something that made my action fail n2. What are the chances that they could do it again, killing Joan for free and then making it look real bad on me for an easy ML.

However, my talk of the plan did make 0verki11 recind his original claim, changing it to a way that doesnt force a mafia into a bad spot.

DG: Honestly im not sure where to put this slot anymore. What you mentioned is true and I didnt even realize it. They have such similar powers but they didnt stop to think that FS could be town with it?

Keyser: Eragon influenced this read on me. In one of the posts, Keyser was talking about FS and said "we" instead of "me". In my mind, I was assuming he meant everyone that agreed that FS should have been lynched. But that doesnt make sense when noone was saying FS had to be lynched BEFORE it happened. And I was the only one to say it after. Eragon believes that he slipped and the mafia was saying that FS needed to be lynched.

0verki11: Theres an entire list of reasons why this slot is scum, between 'forgetting' details that could help show someone is town, really bad posts, claiming a scketch role then quickly recinding it and changing it after plans were made that put mafia is a bad spot. If we decide to not NL, then this is definitely our lynch today.

[Shadowlesscloud]

While reading through I keep noticing Despair Galaxy getting in really stupid fights and I don't know what to make of it.

In my pov, its nai as ive done it as well this game. Thought I do have a reason I suppose.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Right now, its 4v4 with a confirmed townie to try to help sort.

huh

Yeah the math is wrong. I had it in my mind that its Lylo when I was doing quickmath.

[Shadowlesscloud]

@everyone do you see me as scum with 0verki11 this game y/n?

[Shadowlesscloud]

I havent looked at their trait picks yet but it didnt stick out to me on d2 like PP did.

Scum claim btw

Right, I remember now. Your the nonadaptive, trying to say it confirms you as town when I kept bringing up that there are abilities that would affect how you gain AP.

[Shadowlesscloud]

@everyone do you see me as scum with 0verki11 this game y/n?

yes

So the early thing where I calld 0verki11 out for lying is SvS?..

And how i made a plan today that forced 0verki11 to retract their claim and change it during MyLo is SvS? :/

[Shadowlesscloud]

Still waiting for our fed to be disbanded but gonna go ahead and vote here since theres no good reason to NL

VOTE: 0verki11

[Shadowlesscloud]

Weren't you just arguing for nl?

Because i forgot a situation that would probably happen.

I was roleblocked(i think) last night.

That means its probably mafia unless someone was scumreading me d2 for some reason. (didnt find anyone but its a possibility. noone has claimed it yet either which is why im thinking it is a scum ability.)

This means the mafia can stop me.

This means they can kill Joan, provide cover for 0verki11(if he is mafia) and make me look bad

[Shadowlesscloud]

@HOSTS WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO END MY FEDERATION?

[Shadowlesscloud]

A federated player may choose to leave the Federation at any time during a Day phase by messaging the moderator, but may not vote to lynch their ex-allies for the remainder of the Day.

Ive done that XD like 2 days ago now. Lemme do it again

[Shadowlesscloud]

A federated player may choose to leave the Federation at any time during a Day phase by messaging the moderator, but may not vote to lynch their ex-allies for the remainder of the Day.

ya know ywall can consider reading the mechanics of the game for once?

A federated player may choose to leave the Federation at any time during a Day phase by messaging the moderator, but may not vote to lynch their ex-allies for the remainder of the Day.

Ive done that XD like 2 days ago now. Lemme do it again

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also I dont believe Dunns claim. That being said, we can risk lynching him today. Luckily 0verki11 is still here.

[Shadowlesscloud]

would a 3p draw attention to himself and try to convince town he is town?

[Shadowlesscloud]

I'm third party, my win condition is to survive to the end of the game with at least 2 members of the mafia dead. I chose ascetic and 1-shot bulletproof, plus one more thing, and then I dropped another thing.

This means that you guys are currently looking at 5:1:4. If you don't want to lose immediately on day 5, carry around some extra votes, maybe even form a federation.

There is unmistakably 4 mafia alive - the game is in lylo.

Has there been cases of a neutral thats been strictly antimafia btw?

[Shadowlesscloud]

modding wise
I promise that 2019 is literally nothing but fun games
I just need to work with people to make sure that nothing but fun gets modded

This reminds me, after this game is finished, Eragon and I are probably gonna run this again on our home site. We would be keeping the base game the same, changing up the roles ofc.

Most of everyone here is invited :3 we were just talking and it is a shame that this amazing game got ruined by very questionable choices

pg 75.
I wouldnt host it on ToS imo, all the good players are leaving and the quality of the games are going downhill.

Its invitational only. I know how the playerbase is, we are inviting people from here and MU mostly. The fed chats and such will be hosted over discord.

We WOULD host it on MU however, the voting mechanics restrict that from happening.

p-edit: I already messaged them regarding leaving. It didnt happen. I know how the mechanics work snakebro.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I'm third party, my win condition is to survive to the end of the game with at least 2 members of the mafia dead. I chose ascetic and 1-shot bulletproof, plus one more thing, and then I dropped another thing.

This means that you guys are currently looking at 5:1:4. If you don't want to lose immediately on day 5, carry around some extra votes, maybe even form a federation.

There is unmistakably 4 mafia alive - the game is in lylo.

Has there been cases of a neutral thats been strictly antimafia btw?

I'm not strictly antimafia.

Your basically a reverse NE.

Lyncher requires town to lynch a town member then they can win with town

with what your saying, you need to lynch mafia and then you can with with mafia.

unless your saying Lyncher isnt antitown, your antiscum as a neutral.

[Shadowlesscloud]

What neutral that requires to survive the end of the game picks a talent that makes them easy to kill.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Am I missing something though? Cause hes basically making a claim thats basically saying "You cant kill me, nor can you risk lynching me. You cant even check me."

[Shadowlesscloud]

What neutral that requires to survive the end of the game picks a talent that makes them easy to kill.

You picked a talent that prevents you from getting protected by a TP.

[Shadowlesscloud]

What neutral that requires to survive the end of the game picks a talent that makes them easy to kill.

You picked a talent that prevents you from getting protected by a TP.

That same talent also prevents town from seeing if your mafia or not

You picked nonadaptive which doesnt mean anything for you at all if thats really your trait. So gj there, you would have gotten away with lying to us. But I still think you might have an ability that changes how you get AP. Claimung to have a BP as a talent woudl be the perfect cover for it.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Remember people. This is a game where anyone can end up gettng a cop check throughout the game if they wanted it.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Your choices in "Civics" are against what your claiming to be. Hense, i dont believe your claim.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I pushed 0verki11 d2.

I pushed DG when everyone threw heat at me d2 instead of FS at the start like everyone else.

You think I was bussing then? :/

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dunn. Why do you think key is more scum then 0verki11?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Tyty.

Snakebro, you should leave yours as well.

[Shadowlesscloud]

So I'm just gonna be ignored now?

[Shadowlesscloud]

If tsuchnko and Maria are both town you're pushing a pro-mafia agenda so yeah kind of

How so? If they are both town then my reads of you, Keyser, 0verki11 and DG being the scum team is spot on

[Shadowlesscloud]

If tsuchnko and Maria are both town you're pushing a pro-mafia agenda so yeah kind of

How so? If they are both town then my reads of you, Keyser, 0verki11 and DG being the scum team is spot on

Cause I trust my eragon and mepho reads

[Shadowlesscloud]

You taking Nonadaptive would be suicide as survivor because you'd have to clear multiple people that you don't really know are town or not. If you really thought those people were mafia you'd have to out yourself as 3p so...

I didn't even think of this side of it

+town

Though his obsessiveness with lynching Keyser over 0verki11 makes me think that Keyser isnt mafia

[Shadowlesscloud]

Question. Why would you wanna confirm yourself as town if your end goal is to ultimately be alive?

[Shadowlesscloud]

forced is a strong word

I'd like to see you force me to do anything

We're lynching keyser

Reasoning?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Question. Why would you wanna confirm yourself as town if your end goal is to ultimately be alive?

Still think I'd be a relatively low priority kill if I wasn't doing anything

Worse case scenario I can take a hit, though that's not ideal

Confirmed town into f5? Yeah, definitely a low priority town.

[Shadowlesscloud]

So you 2 can't both be town, right?

Why not? They've shown a Townie pov and thought process+their reads align with my own mostly

[Shadowlesscloud]

Don't think I said anything about f5

Your first "step" includes lynching two scum.

That means the scum would at best be able to reach f5.

3 "town" vs the remaining 2 mafia.

[Shadowlesscloud]

The way you 2 are nitpicking is silly

I'm sorry we are discussing your horrid claim and the fact that it goes against what your choices have shown so far?

[Shadowlesscloud]

We're getting sidetracked

it's Keyser vs overki11 today, yes?

You never answered why you wanted Keyser over 0verki11. But not really, we are talking why your claim doesn't make sense and your prob fake claiming.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dunn, do you think 0verki11 is town?

[Shadowlesscloud]

I think it's a possibility, yes

Can you show why?

P-edit: I believe them both to be mafia yes. That's why I'm wondering why you think otherwise if your being honest

[Shadowlesscloud]

So you don't disagree with anything that's been brought up against him?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Nothing has been brought up against him except that he changed his claim which is whatever

He lied about not being in a game with me recently where I was scum. We had just finished a game 6 days before he claimed that where I was not only scum, I was xonsidered by majority of the game to be the mvp scum.

Hes been around and yet his Iso is empty and ony seems to pop in every now and again.

He made a claim about a role. Once I offered a plan including his role that was negative to mafia in every way, he changed it by claiming he forgot an important part of it that would coincidentally cancel part of my plan.

[Shadowlesscloud]

VOTECOUNT 3.09

Keyser Soze (1):

Dunnstral (1),

Not Voting (8):

Mephistophanes 39 (1), Despair Galaxy (1), Joan of Arc (1), Shadowlesscloud (1), Eragon (1), Keyser Söze (1), 0verki11 (1), Planetary League of Sol (3)

The player with the most votes upon them at the time of the deadline passes will be lynched.
You have (expired on 2019-03-26 14:57:43) until the deadline.

The number between brackets behind each player's name is their total vote-weight as off now.

Spoiler: Federations

Name:	Members & Target Votes:	Vote-Weight:	Voting For:
Planetary League of Sol	MariaR(1): - Tsuchinoko(1): -	3	-

Thank you

[Shadowlesscloud]

Nothing has been brought up against him except that he changed his claim which is whatever

He lied about not being in a game with me recently where I was scum. We had just finished a game 6 days before he claimed that where I was not only scum, I was xonsidered by majority of the game to be the mvp scum.

Hes been around and yet his Iso is empty and ony seems to pop in every now and again.

He made a claim about a role. Once I offered a plan including his role that was negative to mafia in every way, he changed it by claiming he forgot an important part of it that would coincidentally cancel part of my plan.

I don't consider the top part reasonable suspicion. It's more likely he just forgot. It's NAI to me

Middle part - ok... that applies to Keyser too and a few other people

Last part I think his claim about picking the thing that reduces votes needed to lynch by 1 is scummy and plain stupid. Could definitely be scum, but I think there's reasonable suspicion

Top part is susp considering it was in reference to 0verki11s ability to know my 'scumrange'. He avoided it by saying its been a while since hes been in a game with me where I was scum.

Middle part- yes. Exactly. But 0verki11s iso is worse then Keyser.

Last part - Wasnt even meaning that part. I was referencing the gun part.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I think you're misunderstanding something here

I don't clear other people, I only get ap from lynches...

This still doesnt take into account you may have a Civic that alters how you get AP. But ig i gotta die for people to believe that they are a thing

[Shadowlesscloud]

k I'm only 10 pages behind now and I must say there isn't a lot of claiming at that point. Maybe more wil come but whatever I guess.

Nancy and I have talked and we're pretty confident in an Ali hydra, Dunn, MariaR, and Joan townblock so there should be 4 scum in the last 5. This worries me because that means there's likely a scum federation out there and they are pretty powerful if this is the case! I was thinking Shadowless for final town but it's possible 0verki11 is the last green slot so I think we should save them for last. I'dbe most comfortable voting Despair Galaxy today and once again, Nancy agrees.

I'm going to see if I have time to finish my claims spreadsheet and maybe read an Iso or whatever but I make no promises there.

So ya, that's my 2 cents worth.

- Ari, obviously

Uh..Dunn already claimed nontown. Or is it a "nonmafiablock"

[Shadowlesscloud]

we're pretty confident in an Ali hydra, Dunn, MariaR, and Joan townblock so there should be 4 scum in the last 5. This worries me because that means there's likely a scum federation out there and they are pretty powerful if this is the case!

Name:	Members & Target Votes:	Vote-Weight:	Voting For:
Planetary League of Sol	MariaR(1): - Tsuchinoko(1): -	3	-

Also this insinuates that there's a scum between Eragon and I. I know that I'm town so I might be heavily pocketed by Eragon. At the same time, that means he's helped me point out 2/3 of the scum.

So like??

If the scum team isn't Keyser 0verki11, DG, and Dunn then I'd honestly believe surprised

[Shadowlesscloud]

k I'm only 10 pages behind now and I must say there isn't a lot of claiming at that point. Maybe more wil come but whatever I guess.

Nancy and I have talked and we're pretty confident in an Ali hydra, Dunn, MariaR, and Joan townblock so there should be 4 scum in the last 5. This worries me because that means there's likely a scum federation out there and they are pretty powerful if this is the case! I was thinking Shadowless for final town but it's possible 0verki11 is the last green slot so I think we should save them for last. I'dbe most comfortable voting Despair Galaxy today and once again, Nancy agrees.

I'm going to see if I have time to finish my claims spreadsheet and maybe read an Iso or whatever but I make no promises there.

So ya, that's my 2 cents worth.

- Ari, obviously

Uh..Dunn already claimed nontown. Or is it a "nonmafiablock"

Must have been in the last 10 pages so ya, sorry.
Uh, I'm still really hurting from a surgery this week and have another 13 hour day to contend with tomorrow so I may only be here Tuesday at some point before the final hours.
I apologize for my lack of posting but this all came on so fast and I'm just so tired and in pain tbh.

I'll do what I can come deadline time.
I think Nancy is busy and very hands off atm so I doubt shell appear either.

So ya. Mea culpa we can do this tho.

Yeh Dunn claimed Ascetic 1-shot BP Survivor that needs 2 mafia dead as well to win.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Yeh Dunn claimed Ascetic 1-shot BP Survivor that needs 2 mafia dead as well to win

Cool!

They can remain block adjacent then as their wincon is with us for the time being.

Problems arise after that second scum is killed but ya know, we'll cross that bridge later

You should really look into the final pages tomorrow after some rest. We brought up alot of points about why their actions doesnt really fit being a survivor.

Like trying to cnfirm himself as town or picking an ability that doesnt let him be protected or cop checked.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Not sure if Shadow is really bad or scum

He's got a lot of posturing where he says Keyser isn't scum but then he is scum and he's pushing me

Where did i say he wasnt scum?

Your just making me iffy by heavy pushing him over 0verki11 for bad to little reasons

[Shadowlesscloud]

VOTE: Overki11

You're posting elsewhere but not here after I asked you for reads

Keyser is just fully away

Now you can die

Also pretty sure this is angleshooting. Agree with the vote but come on.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Yeh Dunn claimed Ascetic 1-shot BP Survivor that needs 2 mafia dead as well to win

Cool!

They can remain block adjacent then as their wincon is with us for the time being.

Problems arise after that second scum is killed but ya know, we'll cross that bridge later

You should really look into the final pages tomorrow after some rest. We brought up alot of points about why their actions doesnt really fit being a survivor.

Like trying to confirm himself as town or picking an ability that doesnt let him be protected or cop checked.

Ya that's my ppan for tn if I don't pass out upon getting home.

Uh, thats interesting. But scum usually doesnt try to town-firm whereas 3Ps do so they can make am ally, amd they've been a bit under the radar as far as controversy goes which is in line with the role presented.

Are you talking ascetic? Because I think Ascetic Survivor is neat and could totally see it working. Js.

There's prolly more to it when I get to reading but basically they should be a consideration later on, but not yet if theb2 dead scum part of their role is true.

3Ps whos goal is to survive doesnt want to be "confirmed town" as it makes them a target to be nkd.

Why would a survivor take ascetic? it makes no sense. You cant be cop checked to be cleared of being mafia, you cant be healed or protected in case you get hit with something.

Im fine with leaving them for later as Id rather 0verki11 all day today, with talking about DG or Keyser tomorrow.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Would like if no one else voted so I get my power but ayyy

Wold rather not risk letting scum snipe it.

Im curious about your power buuuut the recent mindmelds have given you a bit of trust regarding it

[Shadowlesscloud]

Quiet town is dead town. Someone talk to me.

This silnce is making me second guess 0verki11 and i dont like it

[Shadowlesscloud]

also btw
Please pre-in to the games I am modding!
Anyone here is invited

Thanks <3

/in

[Shadowlesscloud]

OK Maria, I've decided I don't mind if you hammer

+scum

[Shadowlesscloud]

are you lonely shadow? maybe you shouldn't have left your federation

In a more serious note what do you want to talk about?

-Junko

I regret doing it yeh. But I needed my vote in case he ends up ever being scum. Also needed the vote to help town not get snipped

[Shadowlesscloud]

also btw
Please pre-in to the games I am modding!
Anyone here is invited

Thanks <3

/in

I'M MODDING 3 GAMES ONE OF WHICH IS SECRET ALT
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS FOR

Wha

What games?

[Shadowlesscloud]

/in me that strategy one, i love one with interesting mechanics

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also yeah, me inning shouldnt change your scumread on me

[Shadowlesscloud]

how long til eod? I feel like the mafia are just waiting for eod to either slam this home if hes town or cfd with voting abilities

[Shadowlesscloud]

15 hours

Eragon is at how many posts?
Keyser is at how many posts?

Where have they been the entire day :/

[Shadowlesscloud]

26 minutes. Who is all here?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Aight. Final thoughts before day ends?

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also i am in a federation with Eragon now so I will be following his votes for ease. (He knows you all more then I do and can form reads on meta)

this is town due to scum having no reason to do this. Or at least apart from WIFOM but im unsure if their scum range goes that far tbh.

Still got a problem with this post.
@0verki11 - talk to me about Shadow's "scum range".

Ive played with them off site, although I probably havent seen them play scum for a couple of months.

WAIT HOLD UP, WE JUST FINISHED A SCUMGAME WITH YOU, WYM COUPLE OF MONTHS

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=97266

cant be bothered quoting anymore than this on this matter, but this particulary is a weak arguement that hasnt been thought through as scum me openly lying about this.
a. Gets no gain to begin with (unless im scum buddies with Shadow)
b. Gets called out that this isnt true, making the entire thing redunant.
I just forgot you were in that game and you jumped on me way to fast imo there.

I was the MVP scum of that game

I was the top poster of that game

You legit called me out as scum in that game

I made the biggest plays in the game and was talked about in every hydra

[Shadowlesscloud]

Had bad feelings with Eragon but oh well.

Caught DG but everyone gave me flake for it

Snakebro was an up and down

Dunn wasn't lying? Are you serious?

Keyser was tomorrow's Lynch. If it wasn't dunn that pushed it, probably would have went with it

Gg tho sorry my energy faded with every town flip

[Shadowlesscloud]

I just want to be taken seriously at least once.

You did well IMO. Was happy to town with ya

[Shadowlesscloud]

I'd actually like my fed to not be public.

P-edit glad to hear Maria, at the EOd you were my top third town with Joan and mepho

[Shadowlesscloud]

Penguin ;-; you shoulda took the machine, I told you!!

[Shadowlesscloud]

@almost everyone

Eragon and I shall be hosting this again on ToS forums. It will be invitational!!

If your interested to play with roles changed, let me know!!

[Shadowlesscloud]

@Fire it was good to play with yo ubtw, I enjoyed it. If you werent connected to your slot, I would have town read you.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Thanks for running the game, wgeurts. Hope you recover/are doing well after your accident. Take it easy and all that.

Glad to know I had Tsuchinoko dead to rights and town lost largely because scum got so pooter peeved by my claim that they convinced moderation it was an infraction when it wasn't.

Yeah I wasn't sure why you got modkilled for.

[Shadowlesscloud]

0verki11, sorry if I 'tunneled' you but between the not remembering the one game + changing your role..it was eh

[Shadowlesscloud]

My thought process was that you were using it as a way to try to not have to read me.

[Shadowlesscloud]

By the way, Varsoon, to my knowledge the thread was locked and it was referred to UT before any of the team said anything about it.

I mean.as a host, I wouldn't of even looked at the scum team chat for it as they would obviously be biased about it

[Shadowlesscloud]

By the way, Varsoon, to my knowledge the thread was locked and it was referred to UT before any of the team said anything about it.

I mean.as a host, I wouldn't of even looked at the scum team chat for it as they would obviously be biased about it

There were some arguing that the one from FB should have been a modkill.

I was not in that group.

Ok that's fair, the whole thing about modcom with him was a bit bad

[Shadowlesscloud]

Well alright. It looked more like a neater claim then referring to modcom but oh well.

Thanks for cohosting btw

[Shadowlesscloud]

i feel like people only give fire credit when they're trying to make him look bad

which is wrong because i was the one that fucked it up

you would have liked me if i'd done it the way fire wanted to do it

Fire was a great player and almost made me townread a slot that had dug itself deep into the scumread.

I've said it many times but I'm sad he died.

No offense but your actions lead the slot to its Lynch, no other way to out it. Sure you got the shits and giggles from the quickhammer, gj. You get the town's most antitown play award.

Then you tried using modcom to make yourself look town and then got pissed when the mod denied it. I don't know what you expected.

P-edit: basically yes, I'm mad and blaming you 100% for it. I'm glad your accepting it

[Shadowlesscloud]

Then you tried using modcom to make yourself look town

no he didn't

He specifically said that the mod told him he made the worst town play ever.

[Shadowlesscloud]

The moderator has confirmed in our Hydra PT in a frustrated post about how anti-town he thought my day 1 play was that only two more mislynches are required to win the game for scum.

IMO this was mod com cause you mentioned the mod saying something.

And the mod would only say that if you were town

What was the point of this post overall though?

[Shadowlesscloud]

The moderator has confirmed in our Hydra PT in a frustrated post about how anti-town he thought my day 1 play was that only two more mislynches are required to win the game for scum.

IMO this was mod com cause you mentioned the mod saying something.

And the mod would only say that if you were town

What was the point of this post overall though?

to prove that we're mechanically conftown

So..you talking about something the mod pmed you in an attempt to confirm your town. What part of that sentence is incorrect specifically?

[Shadowlesscloud]

shadow if you don't show signs of intelligent life soon i'm gonna let you sit here

i don't know who you are and i don't particularly care about what you think of how i played unless you're willing to actually talk about it instead of sit in your dumb opinion and chant it at me regardless of what i respond to you with

I mean go for it, I'm noone important

If you don't care, why do you keep responding?

Nothing you've shown has given me any reason to change my opinion about what you tried to do.

You could easily make that same post trying to confirm yourself through mechanics without ever mentioning something the host told you in private. Yet you decided to not do that.

We were given how many mafia there was. Therefore mentioning the mod talking about lynches could have been avoided entirely.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I don't think he believed it

Can you prove that? Because why would he do that otherwise?

He did it for the luls, he admitted it

[Shadowlesscloud]

ngl from outside of the game entirely

that quickhammer was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on the site

agreed

that's why i did it

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also for the sake of my sanity about why i as so susp of Dunn

"[Idealistic Foundation] - You gain an Ascension Perk whenever a member of The Mafia is lynched regardless of whether or not you were on the lynch-wagon, if you were on the lynch-wagon you gain two. You gain no Ascension Perks if anyone else is lynched regardless of whether or not you were on the wagon."

"There may be civics that change how you gain AP"

[Shadowlesscloud]

Eragon pocketed me because he was the sole reason I didnt replace out of the game after being the second top poster

[Shadowlesscloud]

Idunno whats wrong with me tbh I did work for my win idunno why I don’t feel good about it
And I thought I was a happier person
But whatever

BEcause while you definitely did the most work for the win, your actions wasnt what lead to it.

We had town quickhammer town, argue and complain, and then get themselves twisted up and made scummy plays. You played well but you werent why you won. GG still though but yeh

[Shadowlesscloud]

Did anyone thank wgrts yet???

Thanks for modding my friend! And thanks to Jingle for the support you gave him!

This setup was intense and I wish it could have played for more phases, but alas.

Yup yup multiple times. Eragon and I are hosting this with some changes if you would be interested in playing it!

[Shadowlesscloud]

That's true, but apparently it doesn't matter to anyone anymore.

Still mayyers to me!


Legit was so proud of you in that game! Literally everything we set out to show we succeeded in, and I really enjoy playing with you!

Who cares what others think, just play the game and have your fun! What is gained by arguing like this?

What I want is for people like Firebringer to quit belittling me or undermining my achievements.

Dont let yourself get down my friend, ghis was my first game here and you were one of the few i enjoyed playing with

[Shadowlesscloud]

Dont let yourself get down my friend, ghis was my first game here and you were one of the few i enjoyed playing with

FWIW I don't think you did a bad job.

First game here, not first game ever

Ive played in bigger and more complicated games lol

I think the only thing i have to get used to is the stupid long days, i get anxious

[Shadowlesscloud]

I know that. I read enough of the game to be aware. I'm saying you seem to fit into the MS culture fairly well.

iirc eragon said you're mostly used to blitzes.

Yeah, im used to at most, 72/48 games. So haaving games where days are more then week longs is kinda new to me.

'blitzes' to me are like 30/15 minute games lmao