i didn't rely on it, that's why i said one line about meta & everything else was non-meta related. you're the one who ignored all the non-meta stuff & still won't address any of it even though i put it into a new post that doesn't use the word meta even once.
Okay, I legitimately missed that one as I was closing out files at this job, since my two weeks notice just became end of day.
UNVOTE: until I have a chance to read that one post.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
i didn't rely on it, that's why i said one line about meta & everything else was non-meta related. you're the one who ignored all the non-meta stuff & still won't address any of it even though i put it into a new post that doesn't use the word meta even once.
Okay, I legitimately missed that one as I was closing out files at this job, since my two weeks notice just became end of day.
UNVOTE: until I have a chance to read that one post.
End of week, rather. I wish it was end of day.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
In post 494, Jungle Medicine wrote:why would icon townread you so strongly at this point in the game as to believe that you've caught both the scum "by the ballz"? yes it's possible that town icon townreads you but i'm not talking about what's possible, i'm talking about what's probable.
I don't know. I don't even know how strongly he held those reads at that point, but I also don't see why the post makes him scum.
In post 494, Jungle Medicine wrote:can you find an example where you've seen a townie vote someone based on that person voting their other scumread? and even if you find an example, you're missing the point behind my analysis which is probabilities not possibilities. you're saying my analysis is bad because you can imagine possibilities where i'm wrong but that's not a counter-argument it's just how all analysis always works in mafia.
I think we see scum hunting differently, for sure. I also think that he voted roster because of the circumstances leading up to and including his vote on you, and not because he voted Icon's scum read. That wasn't a good reason because no one involved seemed to have any clue as to where the votes had actually been cast, but you're misrepresenting what happened here.
In post 494, Jungle Medicine wrote:i'm talking about the probability based on my knowledge that i'm town that scum wouldn't know how to treat me given the way i'm playing this game. i think that's a fairly safe thing to say since i don't have any meta to check & i'm playing in ways that might seem scummy on the surface but have an underlying confidence behind them that tends to scare scum away from pushing a lynch too strongly. these are probabilities, not mere speculation. saying it's prone to "ego" or "error" applies to all analysis in mafia so i'm not sure why you're singling this out as special somehow.
In post 494, Jungle Medicine wrote:why would icon townread you so strongly at this point in the game as to believe that you've caught both the scum "by the ballz"? yes it's possible that town icon townreads you but i'm not talking about what's possible, i'm talking about what's probable.
I don't know. I don't even know how strongly he held those reads at that point, but I also don't see why the post makes him scum.
In post 494, Jungle Medicine wrote:can you find an example where you've seen a townie vote someone based on that person voting their other scumread? and even if you find an example, you're missing the point behind my analysis which is probabilities not possibilities. you're saying my analysis is bad because you can imagine possibilities where i'm wrong but that's not a counter-argument it's just how all analysis always works in mafia.
I think we see scum hunting differently, for sure. I also think that he voted roster because of the circumstances leading up to and including his vote on you, and not because he voted Icon's scum read. That wasn't a good reason because no one involved seemed to have any clue as to where the votes had actually been cast, but you're misrepresenting what happened here.
In post 494, Jungle Medicine wrote:i'm talking about the probability based on my knowledge that i'm town that scum wouldn't know how to treat me given the way i'm playing this game. i think that's a fairly safe thing to say since i don't have any meta to check & i'm playing in ways that might seem scummy on the surface but have an underlying confidence behind them that tends to scare scum away from pushing a lynch too strongly. these are probabilities, not mere speculation. saying it's prone to "ego" or "error" applies to all analysis in mafia so i'm not sure why you're singling this out as special somehow.
In post 503, u r a person 2 wrote:I think we see scum hunting differently, for sure. I also think that he voted roster because of the circumstances leading up to and including his vote on you, and not because he voted Icon's scum read. That wasn't a good reason because no one involved seemed to have any clue as to where the votes had actually been cast, but you're misrepresenting what happened here.
people knew where the votes had been cast, the misunderstanding was on your part. roster was talking about leading the wagon that i was a part of, not on leading the wagon on me, which you misinterpreted. then you suggested roster vote me. roster voted me. that's the exchange. the entire thing is laid out in my case so that there's no confusion on anyone's part. i didn't misrepresent what i literally put in the case in full to avoid that accusation.
but it's okay you're scum who didn't read my case with the depth of analysis that a townie U2 would have, and now you will hang for it.
@JM It wasn't me that misunderstood what happened. Yes, slaxx, my slot, had no idea where the votes were at the time of this exchange, but I am quite clear.
Roster opens with RVS vote on me, later tries to get credit for 'leading the wagon' on me, only to be called out by Draco that it's prolly a bad idea to be on a wagon containing Jungle which indicates Roster should be scumreading Jungle. After this callout Roster switches votes to Jungle (being directed there by Draco instead of coming to that Obvious conclusion himself).
It gives me a feeling that Draco's got a scumteam of Jungle and Roster by the ballz (including Draco's push on Jungle re the 3 conf town he mentioned)
As it stands right now, lynching in Jungle or Roster
He's refering to this exchange between Slaxx and roster:
And I don't even want to be arguing with you because you are likely town, but you're vocal and you're pushing bad cases, and it's making this game more difficult for me
In post 385, Iconeum wrote:I already did. I also consider it pretty empty (based solely on meta and assumptions about me). Especially since (I think) I never played with that slot before.
Why do you think my case on roster is illogical?
Not thoroughly illogical, but quoting Roster's vote on Jungle while voting Roster and claiming they are a team is somewhat odd. What is the basis of thinking they are a team?
Looking at Jungle after a break, his argument is bad, but still explain yours. Please?
Or do you have the same reads now?
Still reading. Starwing will fly away very soon to talk with humans.
Jungle's assumptions about how Ico would play were the worst bit.
In post 432, Jungle Medicine wrote:you also tend to think you know who alts are so you probably think i'm someone who i'm not & that's probably biasing your read in ways that i don't have a grasp on yet.
In post 412, Jungle Medicine wrote:what the fuck am i supposed to do to prove i'm town? i'm one of the most active players in the game, i've been putting out more analysis about the game than anyone else in the game except hydras who i can't compete with because it's two fucking players in one, and i'm still scum? how the fuck do you come to this conclusion RC?
This could be legit frustration, but I could also see it as scum who feels like they're being scum read for the wrong reasons. Except I don't really think scum!JM would have cause to feel like he's being scum read for bad reasons in this case?
-U2
Yeah, I could see that, getting
some
vibes of that. Could really be an overconfident townie.
In post 484, Jungle Medicine wrote:i'm not an academic or lawyer brass & i'm especially not one of those things when i play mafia so no i'm not going to cite evidence for everything i say.
and why are you still ignoring all the non-meta analysis?
For future reference, can you at least try to jot down game numbers, something. Makes it easier on everyone and it also keeps people from critically questioning your argument.
My no answer about Vedith is pretty Obvious
I'm calling Jungle out for either lying or faking the meta statement. This is actually the second time this game he does smt like that. First with his 3 conftown players that he backed away from after being questioned, and now with the meta case.
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi
After that exchange from roster that I posted a few posts ago, he attacks me in 215. Basicly saying i'm scum because i vote him instead of Jungle who already had a couple votes. Links me to Jungle as buddie
It takes him until 249 to actually vote me, however as soon as 264 he completely drops his attention on me and votes starwing without explanation (the popular wagon at that time). Only reasoning here is because game was stalling
Every single next post he made is fluff, non-game related and unhelpfull. Like he doesn't even care about his scumread on me AND jungle anymore
Rawr!
#stopmodabuse
#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi