Open 757: Panic Room!

[awestfie]

I'm not the one who sent it.

[Saudade]

VOTE: unvote
I dont want a hammer before Flavor takes a chance to read and unvote/revote Eyes as he sees fit

[ofrhz]

Saudade and awestfie are probably both just town? idk

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.16

With 11 alive, it is 6 to Lynch or No Lynch!

Eyes without a face (4): Flavor Leaf, TemporalLich, ofrhz, awestfie
TemporalLich (4): Flubbernugget, maadneet, Eyes without a face, rosterfoster,
themilkcartonkid (1): High Risk Gamble
Flubbernugget (0):
Flavor Leaf (0):
awestfie (0):
rosterfoster (0):
ofrhz (0):
ejjinami (0):
High Risk Gamble (0):
Saudade (0):

Not Voting (1): ejjinami, Saudade

Deadline: Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-05-03 18:00:00)

IMPORTANT NOTES:

- None.

[ejjinami]

Really, if he did scum-slip or sth, quote the post
if he did sth scummy, quote the post
I can read it before I read the other 9-ish pages, and it might actually help if I'm to talk with people rn
I am unironically going to ignore both of you if it goes on like that

[Jingle]

It has been requested that I shitpost more. I would like to remind all players that Robot Hell is a real place where you WILL be sent at the first sign of disobedience. That is all.

[awestfie]

You can find all of the reasons why Eyes is mafia here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=79467

[Saudade]

Really, if he did scum-slip or sth, quote the post
if he did sth scummy, quote the post
I can read it before I read the other 9-ish pages, and it might actually help if I'm to talk with people rn
I am unironically going to ignore both of you if it goes on like that

I think you'll be doing all 3 of us and the entire game a favour with this

[Saudade]

feels bad it seems like both me n awest are ganging up on this poor girl

[ofrhz]

Really, if he did scum-slip or sth, quote the post
if he did sth scummy, quote the post
I can read it before I read the other 9-ish pages, and it might actually help if I'm to talk with people rn
I am unironically going to ignore both of you if it goes on like that

I disagree with the reasons you provided for townreading Eyes

His reaction to his wagon doesn't strike me as towny

Eyes also isn't new. He has said as much in previous games

I also feel like eyes hasn't been responding to his wagon like he did in 9:12

in 9:12 (where he was town), he reacted violently to his mislynch there and started calling some people on his wagon dumb and bad at mafia etc etc.

Basically I feel like his reaction to being wagoned here doesn't have the same ~frustration~ compared to him being wagoned in 9:12

[Saudade]

So that's 3 people disagreeing with you ejj

[ofrhz]

It's better if you just read the entire game first and give a summary. Reading catchup posts is kind of a pain

tbh I've only read maybe 30% of HRG's posts because all he does is catchup posts

[ejjinami]

ok, I'll read the game

and I can't actually catch up without writing a catchup... I tried in multiple games before, because it takes a lot of time, but I find myself unable to seriously read the game without taking notes/asking questions. It's just a thing for me, I guess.

[ejjinami]

and yeah, mod shit-posting is surprisingly fun to read

:thumbs_up:

[High Risk Gamble]

HRG had some good posts a few pages back; 680, 681. I don't particularly agree with the vote on milk, but I'm not overly worried by it either.

So are you town reading that slot?

[High Risk Gamble]

Can you use a bit simpler terms to explain your reds please?
Or like, change stuff like: “Fumuki has been increasing in me being trustworthy” to sth different? Possibly shorter?
Explaining the situation and what your words mean took more than half of the post and no offense, but the only thing it did was make the post more confusing.

If I understood it correctly, you said that: “You think fumuki is suspecting you more and more because she thinks she knows your main. This worries you and makes you feel that her SR on Flubb was meant to serve her some purpose later”
???
Why exactly does this concern you?
How exactly are her reads on you and on flubb are connected?
That post doesn’t make much sense to me either

I guess we can put it down to a difference in standard way of talking, but I won't be changing how I post, sorry.
I'm not sure what you are confused on though as you said exactly what I was saying.

And reading my comment during the time of the back and forth would have made it make more sense.
There's 2 parts to the post.

The 1st line I'm stating that their constant comments against me have been even more so since they thought that they knew who I am.
The second part is that it appeared that Fumuki was trying to alter more of a negative/scum read towards me to save Flubber for later, not that we're actually connected.

[High Risk Gamble]

Thing is I feel TL has drifted pretty far from town him this game. It feels like an imitation of his town game, which, y’know, leads to scum.

At what stage do you start pin pointing his town game and him imitating his town game?
Surely both appear as the same.

Roster I still want to discuss this with you.
If you're using this to justify a read then you need to explain this more to me.

[High Risk Gamble]

It's better if you just read the entire game first and give a summary. Reading catchup posts is kind of a pain

tbh I've only read maybe 30% of HRG's posts because all he does is catchup posts

That's a bad policy to have to be honest and if your view is "I'm going to ignore majority of what this player is posting" then I think we are trying to achieve different things in this game if we're the same alignment.
I'm in a different time zone to all of the players in this game so I'm not going to be here to back and forth like majority of you.

If it's preferred by all though, I'm more than happy to only post who I think is scum and move on each 24hours.
To be frank, I find the above offensive.

[Flavor Leaf]

Check yo spice cabinets, taste whatever it is you’re cookin’, there’s been a thief, and he’s acoming. The analysis stew you’ve been making all day and was missing just that one thing...JUST GOT A HUGE DOSE OF FLAVOR!

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Eyes

[rosterfoster]

Spoiler: townrange

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Or she ends up just being town.

Lawliett is town.

Meh.

VOTE: ofrhz

@TL: Mind explaining how counterclaiming a scum claim is scummy when you obviously don't consider scum claiming to be scummy? I mean, to me it was an obvious joke and I responded in the same manner, but I'd like to see how you saw it.

Claiming scum is pretty scummy (it isn't scumlock worthy I think), though ejjinami was seeming way too scummy to actually be scum weirdly enough.

You on the other hand

counterclaimed a scum PR

and are probably likely to actually be scum. Your ISO has a subtle feeling of "something isn't right here".

P-Edit: Your read list looks okay, but why is ofrhz so high?

Here's a read list as D1 is starting to feel very slow...

[Town]

High Risk Gamble

(town wants to be like High Risk Gamble)

rosterfoster

(a good townie, with a modest amount of info)

ejjinami

(trying too hard to be scum (and even claimed scum), so TR)

ofrhz

(seems like ofrhz)

maadneet

(neutral, a little scummy but RF/Maad feels TvT)

Fumuki

(not worth reading)

Flubbernugget

(tries to be concise and towny... 279 is a bad post)

Saudade

(your ISO is dry of info)

awestfie

(playing for the wrong team. The self-RVS vote makes this even more apparent)

Eyes without a face

(you seriously counterclaimed a scum PR?!)

[Scum]

Spoiler: scumrange

I'm willing to vote awestfie, her ISO looks so bad it's horrible

[Town]

Fumuki

(Meta read on Flubber, is now not confusing so I can clearly see town motivation)

rosterfoster

(The sudden L-1 feels opportunistic)

High Risk Gamble

(potential deepwolf, towny)

ejjinami

(starting to seem less scummy, keeping TR for now as I still think ejji has town motivations)

ofrhz

(you don't seem like your Greatest Idea self)

Eyes without a face

(the strong resistance to Eyes wagon makes me think town, still SR though)

maadneet

(we need posts from you)

Saudade

(your ISO is dry of info and you post just to post)

Flubbernugget

(scummy meta here, doesn't give good info)

awestfie

(no good posts, trying to go against town [428], refuses to find a deepwolf [435])

[Scum]

VOTE: awestfie

Yeah reading through again, awestfie is almost certainly a scumbo.

okay I have to state that 722 is an excellent case against eyes

Saudade is the townie we need

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I am happy with this vote. Saudade pings town to me now with HRG's case in 614.

Essentially I think Lich provides reasons for switches in reads, however flawed those reasonsah be.

Here I think he is trying to make up reasons to switch his positions, rather than find slightly warped reasons which is what town him usually does.

Pedit: Flavour save us all!

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve actually been able to skim read up real fast, but before someone’s gets the ‘ol Third Degree Boon, I would like a catch-up from one player in particular.


The player that I formerly referred to as Jason, give it to me! (Ofhrz)

[Flavor Leaf]

High Risk and Ejinami likely have at least 1 scum in them.

I’m lean scum on Mad.

[High Risk Gamble]

Right at this stage I feel that everyone is just lacking in looking for where scum are if a) TL or Eyes only flip Goon or b) either flip town.
Unless you strongly believe that you're hitting the bomb, you should be putting more effort into where else scum are, and I think that's the actual reason this day is now going slow.

Players I can comfortably go into day 2 with
Saud, Flavour, ofrhz, Ejj, probably Awe.

Players I think are out right scum
Milk, Flubber

That leaves Roster that I'm on the fence with and TL/Eyes who are the only real focus for people right now.
If there's scum in TL/Eyes I only see it in Eyes. The fact that both of these are the only 2 plausible lynches for today it seems, I think best chance (20%) we hit Goon, worst (80%) we hit town.
If anyone here believes that it's S/S and we so happen to have 2 scum up day 1, then that argument needs to be presented more because I don't see it, even more so with their interactions.

This goes back to my question to anyone who town reads Milk, or even thinks that he isn't a viable lynch should explain why.

[rosterfoster]

Prefip associatives are entirely useless.

Flavour what do you think about Lich?

Your reads surprise me but I’m sure you’ll tell me your reasons soon