Open 757: Panic Room!

[themilkcartonkid]

I’ve been calling your slot scum for a while now, this can’t be news to you

Yes, but you only switch to it after a stronger charisma player does, that's the opportunistic, otherwise its shade

[ofrhz]

I’m either shading or being opportunistic? Why am I not town who thinks both you and eyes are scum?

I was voting for your slot before I switched onto eyes. Was that vote on your slot opportunistic too?

[ofrhz]

I think that’s just omgus

[themilkcartonkid]

I’m either shading or being opportunistic? Why am I not town who thinks both you and eyes are scum?

I was voting for your slot before I switched onto eyes. Was that vote on your slot opportunistic too?

No, you didnt think you were going to get the mislynch so you switched and just started throwing shade. Then you switched back when you saw the wagon start up again.

[themilkcartonkid]

I think that’s just omgus

No, omgus would be me voting you right now. TL is the best lynch right now and I dont know what in the world eyes has done to be a better lynch

[ofrhz]

It feels like you’ve decided that I’m scum and then assigned scum motivation to things that I’ve done

[themilkcartonkid]

No, at this point I'm trying to decide why four players that I townread see something I just cant. Some of you being scum would explain things. Awestfie is very town, hrg is being super manipulated right now, saudade is PG with his desire to keep town together, and you were... eh... but I dont know... I just cant read anything this game

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t see what you’re saying, though, but the shade on me is fun.

If you’re town, scum’s reaction to this is gonna be nice.

If you’re scum, then the hole you bury yourself into deeper is gonna be fun.


Also, notice the point that was said on High Risk “since I’m not using meta”

That implies that if they were to use meta, it wouldn’t be.

Just because they aren’t using meta doesn’t mean the players around you change.

I’m giving you the Third Degree Boon, I don’t even believe half the things I say a third of the time. You don’t need meta to see that.

This pings me as manipulative

How so? I just said my exact thoughts. Thought it was pretty transparent.

[Flubbernugget]

The progression on Flubb’s wagon prob makes him town btw. The wagon started off and grew to L-2 quickly and then it just stayed like that for some time and no one seemed interested in changing it. I mean, the most important thing that was going on was the back and forth between fumuki and HRG (and no one seemed interested in switching to him either).

This points to every wagon in the game being on town so far :/ :/ :/

[Flubbernugget]

Spoiler: townrange

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Or she ends up just being town.

Lawliett is town.

Meh.

VOTE: ofrhz

@TL: Mind explaining how counterclaiming a scum claim is scummy when you obviously don't consider scum claiming to be scummy? I mean, to me it was an obvious joke and I responded in the same manner, but I'd like to see how you saw it.

Claiming scum is pretty scummy (it isn't scumlock worthy I think), though ejjinami was seeming way too scummy to actually be scum weirdly enough.

You on the other hand

counterclaimed a scum PR

and are probably likely to actually be scum. Your ISO has a subtle feeling of "something isn't right here".

P-Edit: Your read list looks okay, but why is ofrhz so high?

Here's a read list as D1 is starting to feel very slow...

[Town]

High Risk Gamble

(town wants to be like High Risk Gamble)

rosterfoster

(a good townie, with a modest amount of info)

ejjinami

(trying too hard to be scum (and even claimed scum), so TR)

ofrhz

(seems like ofrhz)

maadneet

(neutral, a little scummy but RF/Maad feels TvT)

Fumuki

(not worth reading)

Flubbernugget

(tries to be concise and towny... 279 is a bad post)

Saudade

(your ISO is dry of info)

awestfie

(playing for the wrong team. The self-RVS vote makes this even more apparent)

Eyes without a face

(you seriously counterclaimed a scum PR?!)

[Scum]

Spoiler: scumrange

I'm willing to vote awestfie, her ISO looks so bad it's horrible

[Town]

Fumuki

(Meta read on Flubber, is now not confusing so I can clearly see town motivation)

rosterfoster

(The sudden L-1 feels opportunistic)

High Risk Gamble

(potential deepwolf, towny)

ejjinami

(starting to seem less scummy, keeping TR for now as I still think ejji has town motivations)

ofrhz

(you don't seem like your Greatest Idea self)

Eyes without a face

(the strong resistance to Eyes wagon makes me think town, still SR though)

maadneet

(we need posts from you)

Saudade

(your ISO is dry of info and you post just to post)

Flubbernugget

(scummy meta here, doesn't give good info)

awestfie

(no good posts, trying to go against town [428], refuses to find a deepwolf [435])

[Scum]

VOTE: awestfie

Yeah reading through again, awestfie is almost certainly a scumbo.

okay I have to state that 722 is an excellent case against eyes

Saudade is the townie we need

VOTE: Eyes without a face

I am happy with this vote. Saudade pings town to me now with HRG's case in 614.

Essentially I think Lich provides reasons for switches in reads, however flawed those reasonsah be.

Here I think he is trying to make up reasons to switch his positions, rather than find slightly warped reasons which is what town him usually does.

Pedit: Flavour save us all!

Your TL analysis posts still skeeve me out fuck

[Flubbernugget]

Also, notice the point that was said on High Risk “since I’m not using meta”

That implies that if they were to use meta, it wouldn’t be.

I could find meta on you as plausible anything as either align (within reason).
If I were to be using meta I would be countering your argument on you don't slip as scum.

However, I made it clear through out the game that I won't be using meta.

Is it a slip if those things are meant to happen?

I’m not even asking you to use meta, though, so no need to keep bringing it up.

I don’t care about meta either, but I use it supplementary and to see people’s reactions towards it.

"I only scum slip as town" is meta.
I'm pointing out that I'm not using meta so your comment is irrelevant for me there.
Also, a false slip is still a slip. It's just trying to determine if it's intentional or not.

This is the most egregious backtrack I have ever seen

[Flubbernugget]

Also deciding if the way you seem to constantly 1v1 people is a playstyle or scum tactic thing

[Flubbernugget]

just ISO yourself.. even on this page alone you only post as a reaction to other players and never provide content of your own

Saud,

This qpplies to both TL and Eyes

How do you reconcile?

[awestfie]

Ofrhz or Awestfie, what are your reads on them?

Who's them?

Eyes is mafia.

[awestfie]

HRG had some good posts a few pages back; 680, 681. I don't particularly agree with the vote on milk, but I'm not overly worried by it either.

So are you town reading that slot?

I literally said they're null in that very post.

TL;DR: No.

[TemporalLich]

There's a lot of posts so that's very unexpected.

So here's a ketchup.

RF/awest interaction feels SvT, I'm leaning toward RF town but I'm not sure.

ejji's catchup is hard for me to place. Seems towny, but idk.

802 is an interesting post and I don't think Saudade is scum.

817 seems very bold. But the towny kind of bold.

824 is most likely a shitpost.

ofrhz/HRG pings me as TvT

Milk is weakly pinging me as scum right now, the new posts don't sit right with me. 947 tries to be good, but I think Flavor is town. 950 is towny I guess. 939 is a weird post, and actually is a case for me to consider Eyes town. Yeah, his scumread on Flavor doesn't sit right with me. 956 still seems to push the idea that HRG is being manipulated

ofrhz/Milk pings me as SvT

I'm willing to vote Milk if need be. Right now idk if eyes or milk is scummier.

[Saudade]

just ISO yourself.. even on this page alone you only post as a reaction to other players and never provide content of your own

Saud,

This qpplies to both TL and Eyes

How do you reconcile?

It applies less to TL and his posts didnt ping me like Eyes did...

[rosterfoster]

Lich do you just assume people don't read your posts?

Flubby what's wrong with the Lich analysis? Reasons can be helpful sometimes.

[Saudade]

chicken i think you are town

[TemporalLich]

Lich do you just assume people don't read your posts?

Flubby what's wrong with the Lich analysis? Reasons can be helpful sometimes.

If that assumption were true I wouldn't even try to try.

[rosterfoster]

824 is most likely a shitpost.

But like this? It feels like you're just adding text to make your posts look more contentful.

[Flubbernugget]

Flubby what's wrong with the Lich analysis? Reasons can be helpful sometimes.

I just keep tinfoiling about you and TL as scumbuddies despite you otherwise looking town

[Flubbernugget]

I'm really conflicted right now. Both wagons we have look like good wagons until looking at the speed and resistance on them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ofrhz or Awestfie, what are your reads on them?

Who's them?

Eyes is mafia.

That was for whoever I was talking to to respond in reads on the two of you.

[awestfie]

Who's mafia, FL? And why is it not Eyes?