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Post Post #4669 (isolation #600) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 4668, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 4667, Flavor Leaf wrote:too early
Is it bad that I think he did that "distancing" thing that scum do too early, and only realized "oh shit I'm bussing" when it was past the point of no return?
Nah, that’s possible.

But you have to admit that jason looks scummy for joining at the very end too.
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Post Post #4677 (isolation #601) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:23 pm

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There was no kill
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Post Post #4679 (isolation #602) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:23 pm

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Switch tier 2 and 3 and that’s where I’m at
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Post Post #4680 (isolation #603) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:24 pm

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In post 4676, Vorkuta wrote:my mason buddy

You also confirmed Saudade as not your mason.
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Post Post #4682 (isolation #604) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 4168, pisskop wrote:Also, my mason buddy tells me youve hit scum every day but bui is the last one, so . . . . i mean
In post 4189, pisskop wrote:We've flipped an IC, and have 2 masons.
Scum has flipped 2 goons and a half Rolecop.

There was no kill last night. Any docs wanna claim?

Also.

I’m fine with Saudade going last, and still think he’s town, but stop
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Post Post #4685 (isolation #605) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:26 pm

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In post 1790, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Almost50

@Tet
In post 1791, Flavor Leaf wrote:I really wanted to town read Krazy too, but alas, I guess that’s not true.

Day ends here. Sorry, A50. Next time.
In post 1793, Flavor Leaf wrote:TLK’s hatcheting me now.

Waiting for Tet to follow up first.
In post 1794, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m only scum if Tet’s also scum.
In post 1796, The Last Knight wrote:No, I see that. I'm just questioning your read and trying to determine whether it is specific to A50 or the slot in general.

And based on your definition of "hatcheting," I'm not discrediting you. If anything, I'm giving you credit for your meta knowledge on A50.
In post 1799, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1796, The Last Knight wrote:No, I see that. I'm just questioning your read and trying to determine whether it is specific to A50 or the slot in general.

And based on your definition of "hatcheting," I'm not discrediting you. If anything, I'm giving you credit for your meta knowledge on A50.
It’s both, and not even really meta.

What you asking about Buj.

I legit caught 2 of them Day 1.

I’m also going for this only hammer thing.
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Post Post #4689 (isolation #606) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 4687, rosterfoster wrote:I’m VT.
Man. I just wanna dip you in some combination bbq sauce and ranch, and eat you up, because this was scrumptious.

No waiting. No stalling. Flat out claim. That’s what I like to see.
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Post Post #4690 (isolation #607) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:39 pm

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In post 4688, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 4384, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 4382, Flavor Leaf wrote:You cleared me
Papa leaf- are you trying to solo this game for the bragging rights and did you no-kill gambit for the clear today? :P
And one more thing.

Skitter literally won a scummie for winning a game as scum who bussed all her partners early and deepwolfed to endgame on the towncred (and her incredible posting).

Do you think the person you are holding in near god-like regard is not at least capable of that if not capable of more?

If anything you should be pushing him harder than I am since you have more respect for his skill.

That’s just not how I play scum.

I think you’re actually just paranoid because I faked that guilty on you when I won my Third Party Banner.

That actually makes a lot of sense coming from townyou.
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Post Post #4692 (isolation #608) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:42 pm

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The thing is, I wasn’t scum there, I was Third Party, but disguised as scum, so I did in fact play that differently.

I normally prioritize teamwork and going for perfect victories because I hate going to end game 3p lylo as scum.

To be fair, I will say, that I don’t believe I have ever lost as either alignment in 3p lylo, but I do hate it, and always have to go for those miracle plays at that point.

Your play makes a lot of sense to me now.

You have Boonie Fever. Ultra undying paranoia over the potential of me being scum. This happens more than you think. I just didn’t think of you ever having it because I hadn’t played scum against you.
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Post Post #4700 (isolation #609) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:49 pm

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In post 4693, Saudade wrote:nobody has paranoia
you're playing weird as fuck protecting scum up until the very last moment where you hammer them when they are going to get lynched anyway
When has scum me ever played “weird af”?

I’d like people to think about that for a second.

When has scum me ever not been concise, confident, and quite frankly sociopathic as fuck to a consistent and charming degree?

Town me is just obnoxious.

Which one is this?
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Post Post #4703 (isolation #610) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:59 pm

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In post 4702, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 4503, Vorkuta wrote:There's nothing to full claim- mason with enigma/pisskop
and saudade has a 'masonry'
So not mason with saudade?

Pisskop confirm please.

If FL flips town we lynch saudade if this is true.
I’m not getting lynched today.

And saudade’s still probably town.

This is why you keep going back to the scum list because it looks like you’re trying to set up mislynches outside of where people were narrowing down, which also gives you those lynches as outs.
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Post Post #4707 (isolation #611) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:06 pm

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In post 4704, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 4530, Saudade wrote:If you are town this game you've been sabotaging your townplay on purpose for future scumgames which is disgusting
+1

Oh, yet another worst post on this game.


You guys are just bad if you think i haven’t been playing well this game, regardless of what you think of my alignment.

A decent amount of players town read me correctly before I was conftown.

For you to consider me as scum, you have to actively be thinking I’m playing the long haul purposefully as some great challenge and risking losing yet another scum game this year.

I don’t do more than 1 scum loss per year. Not my thing.

And I a large chunk of the cases i have made, specifically all the cases I made on TLK/A50 pairing, are confirmed to have been FANTASTIC.

Not a personality flaw; personality strength.
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Post Post #4708 (isolation #612) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:07 pm

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And that post is actually a hardcore Freudian slip, because you agreeing with that post implies you think I am town.

VOTE: Nerfed
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Post Post #4710 (isolation #613) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:07 pm

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Oh, it said if.

VOTE: ofhrz

Whatever, i just town slipped hard. Already conftown now what am I?

Mothafuckin conftown boon
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Post Post #4713 (isolation #614) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:09 pm

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I’m having a fantastic town year, and this is just another notch on my belt.
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Post Post #4718 (isolation #615) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:11 pm

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In post 4712, NerfedBuJ wrote:
In post 4708, Flavor Leaf wrote:And that post is actually a hardcore Freudian slip, because you agreeing with that post implies you think I am town.

VOTE: Nerfed
I love it when you jerk yourself off at how great you are and yet join a town wagon for the 4th day in a row.

That’s literally a town tell.

I flip flop. It’s what I do. It’s what I like to do. I vote people who I know are town for the reactions.

Sometimes me townreading someone actually is me thinking they are scum.

I always townread flubbernugget when he’s scum.

I made a game winning action on scumBins who was probably gonna slide by because I was dead null on Flubber which meant I thought he was actually hard town read.

Sorry if I’m too next level for ya.
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Post Post #4721 (isolation #616) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:14 pm

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In post 4719, Saudade wrote:flip flop on this luv wagon already bitch
This sounds sexy
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Post Post #4736 (isolation #617) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:23 pm

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Quit scum theatre’in It up
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Post Post #4738 (isolation #618) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:25 pm

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What scum No Kills in this position?
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Post Post #4740 (isolation #619) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:25 pm

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In post 4739, NerfedBuJ wrote:Why isn't ofrhz on the table?

I’m pissed rn...

That’s literally who I’ve been pushing.
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Post Post #4747 (isolation #620) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:28 pm

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In post 4741, Saudade wrote:do you scumread ofrhz?
Yes. He’s the last scum
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Post Post #4748 (isolation #621) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:29 pm

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See that VC. I’m already on ofhrz
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Post Post #4752 (isolation #622) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:31 pm

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In post 4749, Saudade wrote:Ignore everything FL is saying.
He's using this game to get away with bullshit in other games where he'll flip scum

What you mean? I never flip scum. I win as scum.

And I’ve done well here. I’ve put together far more cases then you have. I caught A50 ina hatcheting play...AGAIN. That’s my main takeaway from this game.
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Post Post #4755 (isolation #623) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:31 pm

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In post 4751, Saudade wrote:ofrhz is my mason partner
Awesome. Saudade claimed scum because he didn’t realize his partner claimed VT.

Saudade’s probably a traitor who bussed his buddies.

Gg.

Let’s kill Ofrhz.
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Post Post #4758 (isolation #624) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:32 pm

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In post 4754, Saudade wrote:Yeah I stopped reading what you write FL
I noticed when you decided to just sheep all my reads because you saw I was catching scum.
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Post Post #4767 (isolation #625) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:48 pm

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Sure, but I am also one of these players on site who is mislynched the least and has a proven track record of success as both alignments with flare, might I add, so if the style is excelling, and I even have a few players on site who can actively read me correctly almost without fail to boost my town game even further (cough, we’re calling that slingshotting).

Most of the time my claims isn’t me claiming nor is it meant for that to be seen that way.

The claims are meant for those words to be out there and heard and to see how people react.
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Post Post #4771 (isolation #626) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:58 pm

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How? Every lynch I brought up wanting and the scum pairing turned out to be true.

Look at how TLK interacted with my slot.

I’m never a deepeolfing busser, though. I have gone on record of explaining why I feel that’s poor scum play.

And people know the type of player I am, and I have 600+ posts, if people didn’t they can easily learn.

People also obviously think highly of my ability, and I’ve had haters for years. This ain’t new. But time and time again, I show I bring results. There’s a reason I am night killed early so often on site.

Look where they’re at now, and I’m still running the gauntlet, catching scum as town and faking townie as scum.

Looking at how people read me is actually a fantastic way to get reads.
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Post Post #4773 (isolation #627) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:00 pm

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In post 1, Skygazer wrote:- Day-talk is enabled.

I’m never scum here.

-nuff said.

Anyone who thinks differently at this point is just a surface level player.
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Post Post #4774 (isolation #628) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:01 pm

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In post 4772, NerfedBuJ wrote:Baezu let me get this straight you thought Elsa was town who fake claimed vig?
That’s entirely believable. Elsa jay fake claims more than I do.

And as babysitter that was a perfect shot.

If Elsa was actually a vigilante, they’d have been a potential nk target.

Had Baezu been shot, they then kill Elsa Jay.
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Post Post #4777 (isolation #629) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:04 pm

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Disagree.

When did I ever push against TLK scum?

All I was saying was I wanted his result, which I still wished we’d have gotten because I know him in real life and can read his action really well.

You even stated that I wasn’t saying he wasn’t scum.

I literally faked 2 guiltiest on TLK.
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Post Post #4779 (isolation #630) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:05 pm

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And I defended Elsa Jay because I was trying to bait scum onto the Saudade wagon, which is why I went to BEF that day.

TLK and Elsa ended up joining.

Worked them hard.
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Post Post #4780 (isolation #631) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:06 pm

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In post 4778, NerfedBuJ wrote:Baezu doesn't hammer there as scum and I'm 2/2 for catching scum!baezu.

I don't think he's scum I just don't get that play
Baezu’s never scum here, which means I’m also conf town.

You have to believe that as scum, I was bussing hard, and then 3 scum down, decide to do a random no kill gambit for absolutely no reason, and just happened to get protected?

There’s literally nothing else out there. I’m conf town because of Baezu’s protection.
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Post Post #4781 (isolation #632) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:07 pm

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There’s absolutely no other possibility for that missing night kill.

Scum never no kill there. They just don’t. They have too much ground to make up, and a set of claimed masons out there.

That means, the masons weren’t on the right track.
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Post Post #4782 (isolation #633) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:08 pm

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You just got Boonie Fever.

Buj got Boonie fever!

Buj got Boonie fever!

Sing it with me everyone!

Buj got Boonie fever!

Nanner nanner.

Vedith had this recently.
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Post Post #4783 (isolation #634) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:09 pm

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@Something/Vorkuta - y’all see that I’m town here, i need a Slingshot.
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Post Post #4789 (isolation #635) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:51 pm

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If i were scum I’d have absolutely nothing to be proud about this game. My scum game pride comes from being puppet master scum that works with their teammates.

3 scum are dead Day 4.

I’m much more consistent as scum, you should know this.
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Post Post #4790 (isolation #636) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:52 pm

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In post 4787, NerfedBuJ wrote:Boon, master of the MASQUERADE
Maskiierade?
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Post Post #4792 (isolation #637) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:53 pm

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3rd party aren’t allowed in normals at all anymore, i thought
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Post Post #4794 (isolation #638) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:55 pm

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Yeah, they’ve been acting like Saudade was also in your masonry for so long now, but everyone knew he wasn’t actually.
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Post Post #4795 (isolation #639) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:55 pm

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If Vorkuta is a mason neighbor with Saudade neighbor, then Vorkuta’s got a real issue of being manipulated with neighborhoods.
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Post Post #4803 (isolation #640) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:10 pm

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You forgot SS. Technically he has the potential, but if I’m up there, SS is definitely up there.

Me being up there is literally just paranoia
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Post Post #4804 (isolation #641) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:11 pm

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Wait, you didn’t put Ofrhz up there.

He’s who should be lynched today.
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Post Post #4905 (isolation #642) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:06 am

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Ofrhz today!

Game over
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Post Post #4910 (isolation #643) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:09 am

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Yeah, Saudade can claim whatever he wants. I’m not believing he’s anything except VT
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Post Post #4912 (isolation #644) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:14 am

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Doesn’t matter to me. He’s town for me, but it’s too late for me to accept any claim
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Post Post #4913 (isolation #645) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:15 am

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I’m just gonna assume it’s y’all trolling. I’ve seen you get manipulated in PT’s before, by town, scum, and 3rd party; all in the same game.
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Post Post #4917 (isolation #646) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:24 am

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So Ofrhz was role fishing?
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Post Post #4919 (isolation #647) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:27 am

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Yeah, that actually probably conf towns him unless there’s more than 1 scum.

Actually, there wasn’t a kill, so I guess it doesn’t.
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Post Post #4921 (isolation #648) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:27 am

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I don’t think he’s scum, though. More likely Ofrhz just was able to skate by because Saudade vs Vorkuta was too loud.
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Post Post #4923 (isolation #649) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:28 am

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In post 4920, Something_Smart wrote:I kinda feel like scum getting neighborized and asking if the neighborizer is loyal is not rolefishing... :thonk:

(Although it is LAMIST :P)
I mean, I would ask that question.
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Post Post #4926 (isolation #650) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:29 am

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In post 4924, Something_Smart wrote:I seriously doubt that scum passed up a kill to use their action.
This. Scums too far behind to ever attempt a no kill.
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Post Post #4933 (isolation #651) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:32 am

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It’s you, isn’t it, Something_Smart?

You can tell us. We just want the clean sweeep tbh
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Post Post #4935 (isolation #652) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 4930, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4926, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4924, Something_Smart wrote:I seriously doubt that scum passed up a kill to use their action.
This. Scums too far behind to ever attempt a no kill.
Although I have seen it. Maria did it in TIAM's game that you always forget about.
That’s the game LUV forfeited I thought? Unless that was TIAM’s other game.

Idk. I think I blackout any memory of TIAM so I don’t lose it
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Post Post #4937 (isolation #653) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:34 am

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In post 4934, Creature wrote:
In post 4921, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t think he’s scum, though. More likely Ofrhz just was able to skate by because Saudade vs Vorkuta was too loud.
or Saudade is just an inflated ego head who won't admit he neighborized and was pocketed by scum.
That was implied, and should be AND not OR.
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Post Post #4939 (isolation #654) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:34 am

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Sounds good to me.

Bujaber has some scum equity for me still as well.

The chicken nugget’s probably town, though
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Post Post #4944 (isolation #655) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:36 am

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You know, i don’t think it’s SS.

It’s probably just Bujaber
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Post Post #4948 (isolation #656) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:37 am

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Saudade lost all that momentum he had.

Not gonna lie, I’ve never seen him with that much momentum.
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Post Post #4967 (isolation #657) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:42 am

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I got ninjad hard and lost my case. Meh.

@Vorkuta - I was reaction testing with that all game
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Post Post #4987 (isolation #658) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:50 am

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In post 3769, The Last Knight wrote:BTW I got some fruit last Night.

With all the claims, this could help poe knowing there's a vendor in the game.

Did anyone else receive a fruit N1?
In post 3770, Creature wrote:Yawn man, we're not massclaiming

No way no
Lol
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Post Post #4989 (isolation #659) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:52 am

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In post 3789, ofrhz wrote:I believe bef

VOTE: tlk

Some of tlk’s posts don’t match up to his alleged scumread on saudade
In post 3790, ofrhz wrote:
In post 3688, Saudade wrote:I want you to check Baezu TLK
and I want the traffic analyst to check LUV
In post 3689, The Last Knight wrote:I'm okay with this.
Like this

Tlks scumread just directed the investigative action away from himself and tlk is just like “yeah ok”
In post 3791, ofrhz wrote:
In post 3750, The Last Knight wrote:I'm willing to believe it for tonight and let the claim work itself out.

He picked something that works well with the set up as I understand it.
How would the claim work itself out?
Town equity for Ofrhz or distancing?
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Post Post #4990 (isolation #660) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:54 am

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In post 3809, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: buj
In post 3810, ofrhz wrote:
In post 3804, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3789, ofrhz wrote:I believe bef

VOTE: tlk

Some of tlk’s posts don’t match up to his alleged scumread on saudade
He is a gunsmith though

We are definitely in a position where we can afford to give him a day.
Sure whatever

I doubted his claim over BEF’s because usually there are false positives when there is a gunsmith in the setup

And there haven’t been any despite how many claims we have on the table
Hmm then he goes and changes over
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Post Post #4998 (isolation #661) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:56 am

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In post 3882, NerfedBuJ wrote:Not confirming and denying is basically confirming.

I'm 99% sure of that because knowing vorkuta he could surprise me.
But basically that just makes sense to me.

So this is absolutely a terrible cop check. He can only live with mason confirmation. As soon as 1 mason is dead we force the other to confirm or deny for saudade for sure.

This should all be obvious anyway but it's irrelevant. More and more interactions between FL and TLK are just subtly off. They sound like good strategies if you skim, but as soon as you actually read them they're so obviously wrong.

And I don't think it's a difference of opinion, it's a difference of alignment.

I could inderstand people not agreeing with me if I were saying controversial stuff, but I'm not. I've pretty much been resorting to tried-and-tested-invented-by-better-minds-than-mine mafia 101 knowledge and it has already worked twice.

There's no need to make this game more complicated than it is. Especially when we've lynched 2 scum already and scum have to kill like what .. 5? days in a row just to get rid of all the
claimed
PRs, not to mention any who may have remained quiet.
It’s just Bujaber! He was setting me up for when his partner flipped.

They both were. Go back and look
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Post Post #5000 (isolation #662) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 am

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And then with that momentum, he decided to just kill me because I was the one pushing him, then he could easily just brush it off.
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Post Post #5003 (isolation #663) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:59 am

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In post 3898, NerfedBuJ wrote:Let's ignore all that.. I'll give you another juicy case against you you can try to defend yourself from.

You have pushed the towniest 2 living players in the game (saudade and I). The fact that you can see us as town doesn't change that fact.

You've even now started shading the 3rd towniest living player in the game, creature. Not shading ceature when he was scummy, sheepy, and lurky. But shading creature now when he started defending me.

The case against you really just writes itself.
And the truth is even if you flip town next game you pull something like this off I'll still push you.
Because I do not believe in "too scummy to be scum". I don't believe in "he's too good at scum to do this" (which is basically the same as point number 1, but slightly different). I don't believe in complicated gambitting that creates unnecessary conflict and maybe tricks scum 2% of the time.

I see something scummy, I assume it comes from scum. I don't make excuses for it.

And yes maybe once a month I'll mislynch someone like Vedith or Elsa. But 9/10 times I'll catch scum.

Despite this you can ask A50 how many times I've mislynched him as town. I may have forgotten one or two but as far as I recall it's 0 times. Because gambitting is not inherently scummy, it just has to make sense and have more reward than risk. It has to be complemented by pro-town arguments and logical reads.
In post 3899, Creature wrote:
In post 3898, NerfedBuJ wrote:You've even now started shading the 3rd towniest living player in the game, creature.
When did I become the 3rd towniest?
Even started to butter Creature up.

It’s just Bujaber
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Post Post #5004 (isolation #664) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:59 am

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VOTE: NerfedBuj
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Post Post #5005 (isolation #665) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:00 am

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In post 5002, Vorkuta wrote:Peace offering because at the end of the day I still think you're cool
VOTE: LUV

pretty please with a cherry on top?
Luv is getting mechanically checked.
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Post Post #5010 (isolation #666) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:02 am

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In post 3915, The Last Knight wrote:I did receive fruit. Considering the gamestate, knowing there is a vendor in yhe game is definitely the play.
In post 3916, NerfedBuJ wrote:Let me guess .. the fruit vendor is 'even-night' ? :lol:

It's hard not to sound sarcastic in text, but truly, this is a fun game.
In post 3920, The Last Knight wrote:Idk maybe the vendor is even night. I did get it n2.
Wait.

This is it!!

They role copped Creature!

Nerfed knew about the even-night
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Post Post #5012 (isolation #667) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:04 am

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In post 3957, Flavor Leaf wrote:Creature knows I have trouble resisting a juicy hammer especially after I’ve defended the slot for very long.

I’m scum reading Creature so hard, but I have a history of misreading him, so that makes me town read him, which makes me scum read him more, if that makes sense
I was explaining this kind of thing to Bujaber earlier.

Because I was scum reading Creature, I actually was hard leaning town.
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Post Post #5015 (isolation #668) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:08 am

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In post 4014, NerfedBuJ wrote:VOTE: ofrhz
In post 4017, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Orfhz
In post 4019, Creature wrote:Whatever

VOTE: ofrhz
In post 4020, ofrhz wrote:No guys I'm town!
In post 4021, ofrhz wrote:And definitely a suboptimal lynch today winkety wink
2 things from here.

Bujaber was gone for a while and TLK wagon slowed down, and people like me brought up wanting Ofrhz or LUV, then he comes in and votes Ofrhz even after he stated a scum read on me.

Also, Ofrhz did this winkety wink thing and then claimed Vanilla, but it was probably just a tactic.
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Post Post #5027 (isolation #669) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:12 am

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In post 4128, Creature wrote:VOTE: TLK
In post 4129, Flavor Leaf wrote:Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: TLK
In post 4130, Flavor Leaf wrote:UNVOTE: TLK

In case that isn’t a hammer, I’ll await the L-1
In post 4136, NerfedBuJ wrote:VOTE: Vote TLK

Do it then
In post 4139, NerfedBuJ wrote:So we make FL buss every singly buddy then we lynch him.

See, Bujaber didn’t join the wagon until after I changed and did an L-1 hammer unvote.

Then Bujaber joined on to be on the wagon but not as the hammer

Then he disappeared.
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Post Post #5031 (isolation #670) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:13 am

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Why isn’t it just Bujaber?

Nobody’s given any reasoning for that.
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Post Post #5043 (isolation #671) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:18 am

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In post 5036, Creature wrote:
In post 5027, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4128, Creature wrote:VOTE: TLK
In post 4129, Flavor Leaf wrote:Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: TLK
In post 4130, Flavor Leaf wrote:UNVOTE: TLK

In case that isn’t a hammer, I’ll await the L-1
In post 4136, NerfedBuJ wrote:VOTE: Vote TLK

Do it then
In post 4139, NerfedBuJ wrote:So we make FL buss every singly buddy then we lynch him.

See, Bujaber didn’t join the wagon until after I changed and did an L-1 hammer unvote.

Then Bujaber joined on to be on the wagon but not as the hammer

Then he disappeared.
I expect him to be aware you would hammer him as soon he put him L-1.

I would say that's a towntell considering he could've just not done anything and hoped the wagon somehow shifted away.
I was the only retractor though and he wanted to paint me as scum. He didn’t not want to be on the wagon.

I don’t think anyone here believes TLK wasn’t going to be the lynch, even TLK likely didn’t believe that
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Post Post #5044 (isolation #672) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 5040, Saudade wrote:only to go AHA I HAMMERED SCUM LUV I CAUGHT ALL 4 OF THEM#(%!I#%!
jesus christ can I get night killed
To be fair, I was pushing LUV/Ofrhz yesterday.
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Post Post #5045 (isolation #673) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:20 am

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Which actually does make sense for one of them to try and kill me.
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Post Post #5047 (isolation #674) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:21 am

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I wanna hammer so i can catch em
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Post Post #5050 (isolation #675) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:21 am

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Also, I told you you sheep me.

Both your TLK and LUV reads were a sheep of me the previous day
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Post Post #5071 (isolation #676) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:51 am

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In post 5056, Saudade wrote:Skitter was excellent really, that's all this game boils down to
i would advocate to you having a stronger game than Skitter did.

Skitter played well, but she died night 1, and only was sure about A50 in almost compromising nature.

She was great for what it was, though. Trolled a scum slot.
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Post Post #5072 (isolation #677) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:52 am

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In post 5069, ofrhz wrote:2 masons
Ic
Motion detector
Even night fv
Voyeur
Saudade

It doesn’t make sense to lynch in the vt claims here
It’s a large. I’ve seen more PR’s than that in micros.
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Post Post #5079 (isolation #678) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:02 am

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Post Post #5095 (isolation #679) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:28 am

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I’m Nala
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Post Post #5100 (isolation #680) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:30 am

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But no Pisskop, aka Simba, has returned.
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Post Post #5102 (isolation #681) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:30 am

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Now.

I shouldn’t be posting right now. I’m in a conference call. Be back soon
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Post Post #5109 (isolation #682) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:36 am

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Firebringer slot flipped scum already
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Post Post #5111 (isolation #683) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:37 am

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Oh, my conference call ended like right after I made those last few posts on my iPad. That’s why I was gone for a bit. Don’t think i just wasn’t checking up on the site.

I’m constantly here
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Post Post #5113 (isolation #684) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:37 am

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Consider me on LUV already. Imma hamma
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Post Post #5115 (isolation #685) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:38 am

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In post 5112, Saudade wrote:Are you American Vorkuta
His location says Siberia.
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Post Post #5150 (isolation #686) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:49 am

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In post 5127, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Mod: Conceeding.
Told you this would happen.

Haha.
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Post Post #5151 (isolation #687) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:49 am

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We should do a big group nom, tbh.

We all worked well together despite the hostility.

Like we actually worked really well together.
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Post Post #5153 (isolation #688) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:50 am

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In post 5140, Saudade wrote:Tell me all about how Buj is scum Leaf
I said LUV was probably scum and I was gonna hammer.

I also town cased Bujaber with Boonie Fever.
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Post Post #5154 (isolation #689) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:50 am

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In post 5152, ofrhz wrote:
In post 5148, Saudade wrote:Give skitter a trophy or something for forcing a scum vs scum lynch day fucking one
I agree! She’s so good at both alignments it’s amazing
Add her to the group nom.
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Post Post #5155 (isolation #690) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:51 am

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She also trolled scumKrazy.
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Post Post #5158 (isolation #691) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:51 am

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Ofrhz got hella townie this day phase.

Just group nom the entire town.

Nobody played poorly. We all gave our insight.

Even the chicken nugget.
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Post Post #5161 (isolation #692) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:53 am

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I might nom for game of the year. This game was good.
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Post Post #5169 (isolation #693) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:57 am

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Ofhrz - screamed town at the end. He really wanted us to believe him.
Vorkuta - didn’t give in to Saudade’s shit at the en.
Tet - he’s perf and pulled an early night kill.
Flavor Leaf - I like to think I actually had pretty solid analysis this game, and was an active part of the discussion.
rosterfoster - the chicken nugget came to a couple correct conclusions. He started bleeding town too
Baezu - was super transparent town and made a likely save.
Saudade - strong reads, strong pushes
Creature - fantastic reads, good analysis. There’s a reads list day 3 by Creature that is perfect.
skitter30 (confirmed as town) - awesome Day 1.
Pisskop - kill entrance. This might be a White Knight nom.
Something_Smart - helped defend me so we didn’t get a mislynch, and had zero scum agenda in his play.
BrightEyedFish - he caught LUV with an MD.
NerfedBuJ - even with Boonie Fever, he managed to vote elsewhere and look elsewhere. Solid play from getting outside of tunnel vision.


Literally everyone played well and contributed.
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Post Post #5171 (isolation #694) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:58 am

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To be fair,

BAEZU SUCCESSFULLY PROTECTED ME WTF.

How was I ever the kill? I see the motivation and obviously used it to my town survival, but damn.
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Post Post #5177 (isolation #695) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:00 am

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Scum hid behind our incessant fighting, but we all just ended up town reading each other while we continued to fight. :lol:
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Post Post #5178 (isolation #696) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:01 am

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I thought Vorkuta was already my apprentice.
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Post Post #5181 (isolation #697) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:01 am

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Ah, he specifically said town. That works. You take him 4 days out of the week, I’ll take him the other 3 for scum lessons.
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Post Post #5185 (isolation #698) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:03 am

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Our only deaths were a flipped day 1 town IC, and Vanilla Town Tet.

Awesome, and the epitome of Tet.
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Post Post #5186 (isolation #699) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:03 am

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In post 5183, ofrhz wrote:
In post 5176, Something_Smart wrote:Eh alien's not that strong when the majority of town's power doesn't visit.
Saudade was probably one of the most powerful roles on this team though
Only because he bled town. Neighborizer is all WIFOM, and he didn’t hit any scum
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Post Post #5189 (isolation #700) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:05 am

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In before LUV’s trolling and actually town
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Post Post #5196 (isolation #701) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:10 am

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BOON WARS needs 2 more pairs!!!

LUV needs a partner!

Also can we just talk about how obvscum TLK was for a second? Lololol
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Post Post #5201 (isolation #702) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:12 am

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Yeah, he’s gotta put that sig up.

That wasn’t even an alignment orientated bet, tbh.

That was a “i bet i can get you lynched today” bet
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Post Post #5205 (isolation #703) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:15 am

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I’m in a 4 person hydra for that game
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Post Post #5217 (isolation #704) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:21 am

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I was actually a Vengeful Neighbor with SS.

Boom boom gave me nothing
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Post Post #5219 (isolation #705) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:22 am

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Yeah he had strong reads.

He made zero cases, though
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Post Post #5221 (isolation #706) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:23 am

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Still played really well, and it caused others out of us to have solid discussion
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Post Post #5229 (isolation #707) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:27 am

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Yeah, I’m nominating the entire town for Moment of Brilliance.

We had a perfect game. We didn’t even really have to use PR’s
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Post Post #5234 (isolation #708) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:28 am

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I’m most proud of my A50-TLK Day 1 pairing, and me bringing up LUV/Ofrhz Day 3 as having scum in them.

I flip flop around a lot. I just like to analyze things that way.
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Post Post #5237 (isolation #709) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:29 am

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In post 5235, Creature wrote:
In post 5196, Flavor Leaf wrote:BOON WARS needs 2 more pairs!!!

LUV needs a partner!

Also can we just talk about how obvscum TLK was for a second? Lololol
Thought about getting a pair, but uh, I know I'm gonna hate the secret hydra game.
Y’all ain’t ever seen a secret hydra game like this before!
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Post Post #5239 (isolation #710) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:30 am

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Because the game hasn’t started. Impossible to have. :lol:
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Post Post #5250 (isolation #711) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:33 am

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Saudade 980+ posts, me 700+ posts. Creature nearly 500. Lol.

Yeah, PR’s were important but we didn’t have any hard guilties or Vig kills.
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Post Post #5251 (isolation #712) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:33 am

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In post 5246, Creature wrote:
In post 5229, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, I’m nominating the entire town for Moment of Brilliance.

We had a perfect game. We didn’t even really have to use PR’s
tbh there was one moment we did need to, but uh, I'm leaving this after mod ends the game.
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Post Post #5257 (isolation #713) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:40 am

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Can we appreciate page 119 as the Page of Flavor?

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Post Post #5260 (isolation #714) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:41 am

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End of the page I even stopped casing Saudade and started casing TLK pretty hard.
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Post Post #5265 (isolation #715) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:42 am

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In post 2957, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2065, Almost50 wrote:Acceptable wagons are: Flavor Leaf, Vorkuta, Lil Uzi Vert, NerfedBuJ. Well, maybe not FL (not on D1). Feel free to add me if you really SR me.
This puts more possibility for LUV and Buj, both of which I don’t have much of my own read on them.

LUV is on Elsa, and I thought his pipe ins around the time Saudade started were semi scummy, but it’s LUV.

Actually, I feel LUV could be scum instead of Saudade
, but Luv could be town still even if Saudade were town.
I just really think there’s scum in LUV/Buj now because of A50.

HOT FUCKING DAMN WTF I DIDNT EVEN REMEMBER ME SAYING THIS
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Post Post #5273 (isolation #716) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:47 am

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I’d say Saudade is Earthshaker, I’m AA, but I agree with Saudade about that being the setup
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Post Post #5275 (isolation #717) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:47 am

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In post 5272, Saudade wrote:you had a good game Creature wp
You had a good game, Saudade. Well played.

Vorkuta, stop getting pocketed in neighborhoods, haha.
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Post Post #5281 (isolation #718) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:52 am

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In post 5279, Creature wrote:Image

Someone set the names
Team Leader - Saudade
Brawler - Flavor Leaf
Weapons Expert
Brains - Creature
Medic - Vorkuta
Speed Fighter - Bujaber
Mascot - Ofhrz
Guy who died first - technically it’s Skitter, but I think this goes to Tet. :lol:
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Post Post #5282 (isolation #719) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:52 am

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Baezu is weapons expert. Forgot to put that because of her block
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Post Post #5283 (isolation #720) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:53 am

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I did that based on this gams. Didn’t know what you were going for haha
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Post Post #5287 (isolation #721) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:22 am

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Meh, i mainly mobile post.

I even mod my games on my phone for the most part
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Post Post #5289 (isolation #722) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:23 am

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Boonin’ It In The Slums was my first 100% mobile game I modded.

To be fair, I could easily do something similar on phone, but yeah.
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Post Post #5290 (isolation #723) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:24 am

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Games over Baezu. LUV conceded.
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Post Post #5319 (isolation #724) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:33 am

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I think masons should have just been taken out, or the IC.

Or have one of the masons as a Mason IC.
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Post Post #5325 (isolation #725) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:06 am

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Wtf. Disloyal FV. LOLOLOL and TLK claimed the fruit
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Post Post #5337 (isolation #726) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:51 am

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In post 5332, the worst wrote:you weren't in this game rcenigma
Yeah, I hardcore outed Tet as RCEnigma Day 1 because I stayed

The only possible way that Tet could be town playing the way he was was if he was RCE.

And then light bulb came up, and I was like, oh, he is RCE. Then he confirmed.
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Post Post #5371 (isolation #727) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 5361, Tet wrote:
In post 5360, pisskop wrote:Youre the mason, hes the guy you put up with.

you have the power here. Dont give it to him.

Also, I literally just played Devil’s Advocate to everything this game, even when the reads aligned with mine, but I think that’s just a playstyle thing. I like going over everything and he possibilities, and I think the combination of Saudade and Myself actually cases people both ways, because in the end, I still came back around every single time.

I can see why it’s irritating, though, but I went through a lot of analysis to cover all bases. :lol:

Good work, Sky.
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Post Post #5374 (isolation #728) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:02 pm

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@Bujaber - Nah, I get it. You’re good.

I’m not actually that hard to read, though. Players like Something, RCEnigma, and Baezu have an incredible amount of success in reading me.

The thing that’s harder is trying to lynch me, as either alignment.

And every single thing I do has a clear and precise thought process, so it’s not like I’m just sitting here trolling.
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Post Post #5375 (isolation #729) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 5373, Skygazer wrote:Quick plug: the large theme is goin to be called something along the lines of "A Completely Normal Game" or something along those lines; the premise is a game that's designed to be somewhat bastard/rolemadnessy while still fitting within the confines of "normalcy" (obviously i probablyyyyy would never be allowed to run it in the normal queue)
Eyyy, that was the tagline for the BooneyToonz series before it became its own thing.
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Post Post #5376 (isolation #730) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:03 pm

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I have a sneaking suspicion I’m the reason normal games changed because they got sick of reviewing my games.
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Post Post #5379 (isolation #731) » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:18 pm

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In post 5377, Something_Smart wrote:To be fair Boon, most of my ability to read you comes from the fact that all games where you're scum go pretty much the same way, and if the game's not going that way you're probably town :lol:

And a lot of times when you're scum you back yourself mechanically into a corner in a way that most people can't see :P

That's probably why my worst misread of you was in an open setup, now that I think about it.
Yeah, I definitely revolve around gamestate control.

I’m a control scum type. I played Captain Cold in Injustice 2. :shrug:

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