I want to worry about you less just because you're top poster, the game needs activity, and the lurkers are scummyIn post 923, Padme Almostdala wrote:I will die in the night just before LyLo, don't worry. Scum won't tackle the challenge of pushing me during the day especially if I have a gun and I can shoot my pushers if you think I'm that type of a player.
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One.In post 921, Nute Krazy wrote:Scum who successfully push the idea risk losing 1 to gain who knows how many mislynches.
Even if they believed they could actually convince people of that theory, it's debunked after a single target flips town.
And that target is going to be pissed at getting wagoned on such a stupid theory, so guess who they might take it out on with their vengekill?"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
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Fallacy fallacy. If an argument in favor of X is disproven, that doesn't provide evidence in favor of not-X.In post 921, Nute Krazy wrote:If a bad guy flips town first then the (now known to be at least one) scum bad guy is safer, after the 'bad guy = scum' theory is discarded."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
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You're suggesting that scum!Organa went out of his way to save town!you by pushing for aIn post 865, Nute Krazy wrote:
Push for a counterwagon to whom?In post 839, Padme Almostdala wrote:There's a world where Irrelph is scum and he was active during my lynch not to push for a counterwagon and express how town I am, but to make me shoot Nute by pointing scummy things about him. Sure.counterwagon.
Counterwagons are counters to scum.
You know damn well what that implies.
People sometimes slip their true feelings this way.
Yes, that does mean that I do not consider you conf!town. You're still in the town bucket.
If you were trying to say that Organa is town because of this, you turn right around and say he's scum later so I'm now confused.
Trying to say I'm scummy for asking about this is Krazy.
It's possible that I'm misreading your entire intent with the post, which iswhy I asked the question.
If you have a town response (uh, yeah I guess counterwagon isn't quite the right term here) then it gets rid of the suspicion the comment caused."Lord Sidious, he, promised us peace, we only want..." *gets killed by Darth Vader*-
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2nd top wagon, there, then.In post 930, Nute Krazy wrote:Counterwagons are counters to scum"Anakin, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow."-
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In post 926, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
One.In post 921, Nute Krazy wrote:Scum who successfully push the idea risk losing 1 to gain who knows how many mislynches.
Even if they believed they could actually convince people of that theory, it's debunked after a single target flips town.
And that target is going to be pissed at getting wagoned on such a stupid theory, so guess who they might take it out on with their vengekill?
Whether the logic is correct or not is immaterial, because the average MS player couldn't find logic if it were glowing right in front of them.In post 927, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
Fallacy fallacy. If an argument in favor of X is disproven, that doesn't provide evidence in favor of not-X.In post 921, Nute Krazy wrote:If a bad guy flips town first then the (now known to be at least one) scum bad guy is safer, after the 'bad guy = scum' theory is discarded.
Actually that's an exaggeration, but at times it feels that way.
What matters is the sheep of the wifom. And how people will townread the person making the illogical leap because scum wouldn't be stupid."Lord Sidious, he, promised us peace, we only want..." *gets killed by Darth Vader*-
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There, that's settled.In post 931, Padme Almostdala wrote:
2nd top wagon, there, then.In post 930, Nute Krazy wrote:Counterwagons are counters to scum
Now help me understand if you were trying to rule out Organa as scum with that.
I actually do believe the second part of it, that the real goal was trying to get you to venge me."Lord Sidious, he, promised us peace, we only want..." *gets killed by Darth Vader*-
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Tacking on the ',sure' acted as a sarcasm trigger for me, in conjunction with the bad terminology.In post 934, Padme Almostdala wrote:I was arguing that Organa could've been scum that wanted me to shoot you instead.
So it turns out we agree in our interpretation of that event?
I'd need to look back at Organa approach to Palpatine."Lord Sidious, he, promised us peace, we only want..." *gets killed by Darth Vader*-
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Yeah.In post 936, Nute Krazy wrote:So it turns out we agree in our interpretation of that event?"Anakin, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow."-
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If this flips scum then the mechanic is something that's hardly recognisable. Perhaps the theory that scum get to choose when towns get vengeful is a good one.In post 793, Obi Someth Kenobi wrote:and the apparent lack of punishment for this is possibly scum indicative."Anakin, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow."-
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not everyone plays the same way that you do.In post 884, Darth Easy Baker wrote:Scum usually don't push crackpot theories they know are false, it just makes them look dumb.
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For example this player is deliberating pushing something that he clearly believes to be unbelievable for village idiot points.Vorkuta wrote:[
Can we use this somehow... and vote No Lynch.. and try and go for Loyal Doctor + Vig clear shenanigans for clearning purposes?
I can bring it up just for "village idiot" points if not"*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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another quote of this player going for 'village idiot points'Vorkuta wrote:K- this won't work.
I'm going to bring it up then for village idiot points
STOP NINJAING ME pedit
Yeah but I can probably find a way to 180 the past game's experience.
Maybe.
I'll think on the more optimal claim until Vedith chimes in
it's almost like scum looking like bad town is good for them because they want to not get lynched and if people write them off as bad town they don't get lynched"*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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our push may lack nuance but that's because this is really simple stuff. nothing about this case is difficult to understand and I haven't seen a single valid reason against it.
Nobody here has given ANY reason why it makes sense for Irrelph as town to come into d3 pushing that all the bad guys are scum as a bad guy townflip. In fact there's no reason t to believe that in the first place. There's nothing to 'analyze' about their reasons for saying this. There is no valid reason.
They're just scum. Looking for village idiot points."*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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It has rce and Irrelph in it, it's pretty good as a consequence of that, idk what else to say.In post 941, Padme Almostdala wrote:If there are 4 scum then we should always land a hit in my PoE regardless if we lynch the town in it.
I still haven't heard people talking about my PoE."*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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Yeah the latter is what I mean. If the inactive mechanic is very very scumsided I think it may be three here but otherwise I think it's four.In post 867, Nute Krazy wrote:
Is this making a leap that the active / inactive thing is the scum power?In post 849, Arist2D2 wrote:Hey Padme, I'm looking at Annie's ISO and don't get how you think it points to DEB?
Yeah it's 15p lol I have a bad memory sometimes. It's most likely 4 by a lot based on reads but it could be 3 possibly IF the inactive power is awful.
Awful in the sense of being a bad thing for town which means a great power for scum?"*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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People think that scum don't want to fake bad play because people don't want to listen to them that way, but even if you think it's suboptimal play scum can still do it. What else is there to understand?In post 888, Darth Easy Baker wrote:Arist was not frustrated by Irrelph's argument itself. They were frustrated by people calling it town, and they reacted to this by repeating that "too dumb to be scum" isn't a thing without really seeking to understand why people were arguing that."*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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1) of course I thought about it and all I can come up with is a red role PM! it's not like anyone has actually offered a viable alternative explanation!In post 902, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
I mean, you can analyze what brought about the theory, you can analyze whether they would have actually expected people to buy it as scum or if they expected to just be laughed at, you can go down the rabbit hole of "did they expect people to say it was too dumb to be scum," or maybe they're scum with another evil flavor and it was a distancing attempt...In post 897, Arist2D2 wrote:Uhh what is there to understand? They literally went "Guys I think all the bad guys...... Are just the bad guys!" Then set the blunt down I presume.
There's a lot you can consider here.
2) clearly the latter, there's nothing to analyze here.
3) yes because as we've observed today scum do play for village idiot points.
4) this is literally pure speculation. there's no evidence for and against and therefore nothing to analyze."*whistles* *whistles* *various beeps*"-
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ew this looks like tmi now that I look backIn post 359, Darth TyTitus wrote:Dude it's really not the end of the world to be mislynched"Anakin, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow."-
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In post 359, Darth TyTitus wrote:Dude it's really not the end of the world to be mislynched, just take a chill pill
It's probably more harmful to town that you outed yourself, rather than us mislynching you day 1
Also "no one is defending you" - your wagon feels like it's DISSOLVING because people are using your shitstorm to flip votes off of you. Makes it pretty easy for your buddies, hm.
ew ew ewIn post 361, Darth TyTitus wrote:I don't see this reaction coming from a townwho's about to be mislynched ever
Just got out of a game where a scum used this to get people to townread them, it shouldn't be rewarded
i wanna flip my PoE can I"Anakin, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow."-
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