Quote the multiple people explaining why it's anti-town.In post 847, Formerfish wrote:There are multiple people telling you the opposite and you refuse to listen, but you pick out one opinion and want us to change how we see.
How egotistical are you?
I think im talking myself back into an Auro top scum read and im building my case.In post 849, Dannflor wrote:FF what are you hoping to get out of this debate?
People don't need to explain things to your liking for it to be true, your role pm dictated that long before you opened your mouth and let us all see which color you got as clearly as you did when you opened the pm.In post 850, Auro wrote:Quote the multiple people explaining why it's anti-town.
In post 854, Formerfish wrote:
pedit- Auro dropped lower to a scum lean because of interactions earlier. I was looking at others but had no reason to change my vote at that time. Nothing came up with the people I was scum reading and then this happened and pushed him further back down my list. Should I be more rigid with my read?
No. I'm challenging you to qualify your statement. You're so concerned that I'm refusing to listen, no? So I'm asking who ever explained how it's scummy in the first place.In post 852, Formerfish wrote:People don't need to explain things to your liking for it to be true, your role pm dictated that long before you opened your mouth and let us all see which color you got as clearly as you did when you opened the pm.In post 850, Auro wrote:Quote the multiple people explaining why it's anti-town.
Firstly, and most importantly, chainsaw defences don't qualify as a useful scumtell *until* there's a red flip.In post 524, Formerfish wrote:For a chainsaw defense you dont have to lynch Dunn, you just have to attack him for attacking Gob
Because I'm trying to figure out if it was a real read or if you were buddying Dunn or what.In post 837, Auro wrote:I have some meta experience with Joan. I trust Dunn's reasoning given he has a lot more meta experience with her (to my knowledge). I recall that Gob was being pushed at that time, even if he wasn't the biggest wagon.In post 833, KittyMo wrote:I am still looking for specific insight into this specific statement you made about Joan. If you're not able to dig to get the context back then whatever, come back to it later. I just want to make it clear that "I'm not concerned about BBmolla right now" is not answering my question.
Yes, it's somewhat a logical leap. And because it was a leap, it only took her to "very slightly town". What about it?
Wait...what? That's not what FF is saying at all and you twisting it this way seems intentional in order to shade him. I don't know why town would do that; do you scumread him?In post 835, Auro wrote:Oh, so now town has a false perspective because I lulled them and robbed them of their agency... versus Espeonage simply being incorrect.In post 830, Formerfish wrote:Town can have their agency captured by scum without knowing it. You saying that town feeling a certain way about you makes you town is a bad logical argument to make
FF literally said I said that town feeling a certain way about me makes me town. I said that's wrong. Intent behind my original post was that at least one reasonable town voice thinks I'm not being anti-town and that must beg some re-evaluation. FF's response was that town can have their agency captured without knowing it.In post 861, CheekyTeeky wrote:Wait...what? That's not what FF is saying at all and you twisting it this way seems intentional in order to shade him. I don't know why town would do that; do you scumread him?
Can you clarify who you're referring to with "at least one reasonable town perspective"?In post 843, Auro wrote: No, but: you should realize that there's at least one reasonable town perspective that thinks Auro is being pro-town, and reassess whether your accusations that he's anti-town carry as much merit as you think it does.
Yes that's a rehash but you effectively dodged his point that some people town reading you doesn't mean they're right. Expecting people to reassess you based on some people town reading you seems laughable? How often do you think 'oh wait people are town reading this person I must be wrong' - if you're anything like most players, you think you're right regardless of what other people think.In post 863, Auro wrote:What do you think he was saying?
If we all played this way we would no lynch every dayIn post 843, Auro wrote:No, but: you should realize that there's at least one reasonable town perspective that thinks Auro is being pro-town, and reassess whether your accusations that he's anti-town carry as much merit as you think it does.In post 839, Formerfish wrote:If someone is an IC does that make everything they say gospel? You are acting like town can never be wrong about a read and therefore we should tr you because someone you tr does?
Huh. Why is it weird for us specifically to agree?In post 801, Espeonage wrote:.
I have no evidence against you if it makes you feel better. If I had to take a guess on it, it would be that I agree with you the most which feels really damn weird in this oddball game. Which is why you are one of the only people who I feel is playing the game at the moment.
Is now a good time for this? In his current absence I'm pondering that the early rudeness with you two may have been theater. :bIn post 528, Formerfish wrote:I took Gobs 344 way differently than you did. I'll wait for Gob to chime in before I give my 2 cents though.
I don't even think anti-town==scummy.In post 867, Auro wrote:Besides, I'm willing to admit I'm wrong - then just explain how my style was/is anti-town?
OkIn post 772, BBmolla wrote:this posts blowsIn post 758, Donempire wrote:UNVOTE:
I'm not sure im ready to go full on esp yet. I need to read up some more, so i could settle with NSG for now.
My townbloc is still auro and hopkirk, but i would like to see more from gobble. Auros latest posts i still like but i havent read all of hopkirks responses. Either way i'm not going to worry too much about this bundling.
I would really like to push on some of esps weak points but im waiting for a clearing so i can make a full on case on him, i can probably do it in wednesday, so no rush right now. As of now im fine with a NSG lynch but not too thrilled about any other wagons.
so much fence sitty shit
