BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Haggle]

Haggle, chemist is your clear yeah?

seriously if I actually need to be thinking about chemist I'd rather know that now than later, otherwise I'm just writing him off as a clear and thinking about the conditions under which creature is clear or not

Alright, fine, I'll at least say that Chemist isn't our clear.

-Hectic

[Weiss Schnee]

because if I play today like chemist is strongly mech cleared when he is not then I might fuck up
...


oh ok

[Weiss Schnee]

seriously though having one strong mech townblock can really help us a lot here

if it was chemist than that also makes creature way more likely to be town but since it's not I kinda gotta adjust

[Haggle]

Gonna play it safe. Negotiations fell through for other lynches.

VOTE: Bambi

Pedit: Dw, I think it's correct not to reveal it.

[Weiss Schnee]

Revised mech list

Spoiler:

Strongest mech clear
Haggle -- Scum flip requires dave to be scum
Amrun -- requires scum to have no killed n4
Emperor flippyNips -- requires us to have misunderstood n1 mech result

BEF -- requires same PT as Joan probably--basically not clear at this point
Weakest mech clear

No mech clear
50 Judge Powers -- seems obvtown anyway

Chemist1422 -- being renegade requires being scum with bambi; otherwise this is aiming for scum hider
davesaz - tbh don't know how to read dave but people seem to have liked his posts for town; mechanically seems like next best candidate for rene after RCE?
Creature -- if scum, must be scum with bambi OR chemist
Bambi Jay - seen flashes of scum and town here so mixed feelings
BrightEyedFish - liked one or two posts but need to reread
RCEnigma - need to reread, best candidate for rene?

so basically our only hard-hard clear right now is haggle imo

[Weiss Schnee]

it makes today like, a lot harder

[Weiss Schnee]

wait so who all was chemist in a hood with then?

[Weiss Schnee]

Bef is town. This is a serious read.

and we all know Joan is untouchable on D1.

Best hottake btw.

dd, who would you consider lynching/not lynching today?

-latias

Can't you a solid answer on who to lynch at this moment tbh.

I think I made it clear who I don't want to lynch though.

I will, and I promise, grill Joan/replacement for Joan in the hood though..... and probably here as well.

I will say, something that I can't put a finger on irks me about Nancy(totally not because of the hydra thing I swear).

If Joan flakes it's safe to put a bullet there.

VOTE: Joan

I think R&J looks pretty damn good on a scum!Joan flip for diving into the quote

PS I'm totally fine flipping Joan over any of these wagons.

kinda looks not same-pt as joan tbh

but for day 1 when scum weren't unified I don't know if I can tell from joan's role pm whether the two scum groups knew each other at start?

[Weiss Schnee]

20 pages to go. Consider this my live read-along scum hunting blog full of insider info and all you can use it to game solve. I’ll just make a reads list and update as I read along.

Order: From Scum to Town

Chara – I used to think CHara was a top game solver but this isn’t hitting right. I think it’s scum here. Trying to look busy.
Espressojet – I always have to re-read, even if the post is just a naked vote.
Joan of Arc –Don’t like the indifference to her lynch
Amrun – uhhh???
Romeo and Juliet – Kinda towny feelings in my heart but resistance to Joan votes is kinda scummy feelings in my heart.
Latias and Latios – I need to find a groove in this slot
Frank -
Davesaz – I want to SR this slot but will throw in with RCE in the undecided, probably scum pile.
RCEnigma – Still hard for me to stay objective on this slot
Emperor flippyNips – didn’t we speed lynch scum!flippynips on D1 before for lurking???
50 Judge Powers – I think this slot is going into overload, the most perfect Null- Slot ever.
LoserdudeOG – Who?
Karnage – See Above
AaronFrost
Titus – waiting on an obv towny post, yet to come across one. Like the naked Amrun vote though on 1159...
Doctor Drew – Some posts seem logical to me. I like that but I have the feeling scum!DD could deepwolf.
Venus and Mars – Too much to analyze but strong town vibes.
Haggle – Split. The BP posts have a scum feel but hectic feels more towned up and I like his record keeping.
Bambi Jay – Scum Bambi would never give me so much slack to be myself. That or killing me has beomce to boring/easy for Family Jay.
Chkflip – Been TRing this slot continuously.
BrightEREyedFish – The Town’s Townie

I was a cop in that game. Of course I didn't want to get lynched as a cop. Different roles, different approach.

Conditional doctor.

WAIT WAIT WAIT a second...

You want to get lynched as a doctor?

Sure, your day 2 reads would be good. Also what your take is on AF/Joan/drew/nips in general.

Day 2 has been too much setup/mech talk this early in the game. I just can’t keep up/not engaged with that line of info atm.
I will do a quick ISO (disregarding the claims) on those 4 players and see what I get:

AF: Town. I seem to be on page with most of their latest posts.

Joan: Saw Post 2376 and its basically what I just said. I gotta town this slot now.

DD: I like my vote here. Feels a little too easy but you know, sometimes the easiest solution is the right solution.

Nippy: The content isn’t very influential but I can’t really judge based on that because I have been slacking as well in actual content.

I ISO'd AF and this is what I concluded:

Spoiler:

On page 10.

Titus tonally reads as frustrated town. I'm tempted to think that Titus vs V&M is tvt but I have no strong basis for that due to having no strong read on V&M.

Don't understand the RCE wagon. Thought it was weird to chk to go after the wording of the post rather than the content of the post which feels nitpicky.

This makes me TR VM and Titus even more. Makes me wonder about RCE.

I think A50, Titus, RCE, V&M and L&L are all town. Having a little bit of a hard time getting actual scumreads right now but that might be because half the playerlist is lurking atm.

If RCE is scum he is not one listed in AF’s PM.

I'm gonna wager that if Drew!scum then Haggle and flip nips probably town.

This pings hard. AF spent alot of time on Haggle.

AF seems significantly less solvey than what I'm used to.

I think I've only played with you once and I was scum so I'm not sure when you've seen me as solvy?

This looks good for dave

Scumreads: Drew, Joan, maybe 50JP depending on whether he clarifies why actions against him failed

Joan and 50JP pinging me now.

I planned on outing it once I realized drew was a scum neighborizer. Dont feed into the bs hes spewing at you

please don't misunderstand, i'm asking for clarification from you so we have as much info as possible from a source that isn't Drew, who i don't trust.

why did those two agree to keep you hidden, did they talk about anything in the hood, etc, is there anything specifically in there that made you realize.

Joan has said next to nothing in the hood. Drew was the one who wanted me to keep quiet about it and was trying to push the theory that Titus was the one who put me in there.

I think Titus is telling the truth about having nothing to do with our hood and Joan claimed doc hence it clicked that it must have been Drew.

Another link with Joan that is not good.

VOTE: Joan

Fish, that's fair; however, why Joan over Haggle?

Maybe because later in AFs ISO Joan stood out more. Haggle was more prominent in the early parts of the ISO. I wouldn't be surpised if both are AFs named partners.

HURT: Joan, Haggle, 50JP

doesn't look super like same-pt with joan either but not I'm not really finding town very easily in this iso either

[Weiss Schnee]

RCE can you refresh me on what was up with 180 and 254?

[Amrun]

Bef is town. This is a serious read.

and we all know Joan is untouchable on D1.

Best hottake btw.

dd, who would you consider lynching/not lynching today?

-latias

Can't you a solid answer on who to lynch at this moment tbh.

I think I made it clear who I don't want to lynch though.

I will, and I promise, grill Joan/replacement for Joan in the hood though..... and probably here as well.

I will say, something that I can't put a finger on irks me about Nancy(totally not because of the hydra thing I swear).

If Joan flakes it's safe to put a bullet there.

VOTE: Joan

I think R&J looks pretty damn good on a scum!Joan flip for diving into the quote

PS I'm totally fine flipping Joan over any of these wagons.

kinda looks not same-pt as joan tbh

but for day 1 when scum weren't unified I don't know if I can tell from joan's role pm whether the two scum groups knew each other at start?

I was going to make a not scum with Joan case for RCE.

Joan knew there were 3 other scum. Her crumb said so. Unless they know there’s a traitor, they’re not in the same PT, because why else would she even make the crumb? And would she make the crumb just for a traitor? I bet they can join up some way too.


But if that’s the case, why would RCE even attack the crumb in the way he did? What’s the scum motivation, even if he’s in the other PT?

I’m not seeing it.

[Amrun]

FWIW, I also think that thinking I’m scum with Joan is laughable at best.

[Weiss Schnee]

dave read?

[Amrun]

Me? I mean associations with Joan don’t look good, but I think the way he went about claiming day 2 is not faked

[Amrun]

I think Dave is town which makes Haggle almost certainly town. Without those clears existing we’d be having another conversation.

[Weiss Schnee]

Sell me on dave town?

Like should be an easy case, I kinda want to buy, I just don't really feel like I know what I'm looking for

[BrightEyedFish]

Who the FUCK dumped this Dirty Laundry on me???

-Hectic

Have you not payed attention?

[BrightEyedFish]

Romeo and Juliet [11]:

Chara, Espressojet

, Haggle,

Venus and Mars

, Amrun, davesaz,

AaronFrost

,

BrightEyedFish

,

Titus

, RCEnigma, Bambi Jay

Doctor Drew [10]:

Emperor flippyNips,

Joan of Arc

,

BrightEyedFish

,

AaronFrost

, 50 Judge Powers, Bambi Jay, Amrun,

Titus

, Chemist1442,

Chara

Updated this.

[Chemist1422]

wait so who all was chemist in a hood with then?

Just Creature

[Weiss Schnee]

chemist want to hit us with a reads list?

[Haggle]

Shouldn't we be lynching Flippo?

-Hectic

[Haggle]

Who the FUCK dumped this Dirty Laundry on me???

-Hectic

Have you not payed attention?

Yeah, but still, it's pretty rude.

-Hectic

[Weiss Schnee]

Shouldn't we be lynching Flippo?

-Hectic

handwave the 50J clear as some sort of technicality?

[Weiss Schnee]

I mean I don't like flip's play here either but uhh it doesn't by definition make him scum

I did mod the game that gave him the "moment of wonder" where he had no idea what his night actions had been, he definitely has an issue with projecting presence in games and I think it's fair to ask him to clarify his claim

did he ever say flavor or anything else?

[RCEnigma]

Rce sell me on you not being the rene?

I'll attempt this after work but I don't really have anything mechanical that takes me out of the Poe, or I wouldn't be in it in the first place. I think it's worth looking into the pairings present. Those being (myself, bef)(A50, flippy)(dave, haggle)(chemist, Creature)? I think the last is more like a triangle with Bambi though.

I'm also not ruling you (Krazy) out. Based on dayplay since I've been burned there before. Also adorable/clemencys play doesn't just disappear at this point. Though I didn't really ever have a read on Clemency in the first place.