White Flag - TM2020

[Dannflor]

wgeurts is at an alarmingly high vote percentage for someone i dont remember as vividly as someone like gobble or ceph. Can someone explain the reasoning or is it all rvs votes?

Man maybe I'm conf biasing but this reads like scum asking why a townie has been wagoned. At the very least it's a busy-work question, why doesn't he just check

Dont want to come off like im parroting gooble but cephrir sucks man. Most of his posts are quick one liners that you cant say much to and he seems afraid to engage properly, especially 81 is awful. I'm fine with placing my vote there but i want to clear my mind on former first because this doesnt play like his towngame.

VOTE: cephrir

meh, doesn't engage with FF in between

that inconsistency might actually be towny

[Auro]

Please tell Auro you'll lynch gobbles in Lylo so he can vote Dann for the win

I still won't vote Dann myself, I'm sure the others will, though.
Optimal strat is still Gobbles lynch followed by FF I think.
I'll probably instavote Gobbles/Molla in LyLo.

[CheekyTeeky]

FF/Dong or FF/gobbles are the only teams I can really see with FF and I don't think Dong is scum.

[Dannflor]

Town
KittyMo
Auro
Dann
Dunn
Cephrir
Hopkirk
Espeonage

Joan of Arc

DongEmpire

Formerfish

Wgeurts

NSG

Scum

Man if you assume my Dong/FF solve is correct...

These are like... inhumanly good reads. Does Gobble really have reads that good? Like it's not damning not least which because it feels super bad to go after someone for "having too of good reads," but this would be like... absolutely insane for a D1 reads list. It just makes it a little bit more likely I'm wrong on that exact solve or that Gobble is scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why's that? I don't remembering playing with any of your team (anytime recently if at all) so I'm assuming not meta?

eddie cane said you were town

I trust his reads a lot

Also, even though I disagreed with it, I thought your explanation for the scum read on kittymo was especially towny. I thought it showed a level of looking deeper when it's a lot easier to just give her a free town read for having pleasant posts.

[Dannflor]

FF/Dong or FF/gobbles are the only teams I can really see with FF and I don't think Dong is scum.

Those are the only two pairings EC can see FF with too, so we're synced there

if you care

at all

[CheekyTeeky]

Eddie Cane would like it to be publicly stated that his two most confident reads are Auro and Hopkirk as town.

I agree for the most part. Definitely on Hopkirk, somewhat less confident but still town reading Auro.

[Dannflor]

Why's that? I don't remembering playing with any of your team (anytime recently if at all) so I'm assuming not meta?

eddie cane said you were town

I trust his reads a lot

Also, even though I disagreed with it, I thought your explanation for the scum read on kittymo was especially towny. I thought it showed a level of looking deeper when it's a lot easier to just give her a free town read for having pleasant posts.

yes I strongly town read him D1 and then changed my mind later when Ank and EC did and nsg flip happened

I'm SORRY

[Dannflor]

Actually VOTE: Hop L-1 but don't hammer please. FF's behaviour over time will be easier to gauge if we max out day lengths from this point.

Cheeky and FF why aren’t y’all voting

Didn't know what the vote count was and im lazy.

VOTE: Hoppy

The bit about needing to prove myself to you or youd vote me left a bad taste in my mouth bro. Eat some pineapple.

[Dannflor]

Lynch pool today is hop/gobbles and overall can go hop/gobbles/FF tomorrow.

[CheekyTeeky]

what's up with the auro wagon

people are DUMB

[Dannflor]

that's a 10/10 post

[CheekyTeeky]

How am I supposed to lynch you D3 Dann? Much easier to get you D4.

[Auro]

Fighting now is useless, please work together.

[Formerfish]

if someone hadn't QUICK HAMMERED dgfdgdrgdrhfhrtyhjcy

like my biggest fear is that FF is scum and just gonna get away with that

because that's actually a good play for scum him to pull

I appreciate you think my response to that is within my scum range, but that type of honest reaction only comes from town me.

[Dannflor]

you've played objectively worse than me read wise

and yet you think I'm scum for BoP reasons

god what the fuck are you even doing

[Auro]

Well, to be fair you can acknowledge that someone has better reads than you in general and then BoP them in retrospect.

[Dannflor]

yes fine Auro I'll stop

I'm looking at the BB parts now

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm probably like

Auro, Hop, Dunn
Cheeky, Kitty, Cephrir?
-other people-
Formerfish
Dongempire, nsg

This is funny coz all your townreads except me/Auro died.

[Auro]

I think both of you are going in the wrong way quoting Gobbles'/Dann's readslists. They simply have the poorest (by play this game) players at the bottom, and those are the players you'd expect to see carried into late game anyway.

[Dannflor]

I've just been told Cheeky is a good player and I feel like the good players here should be town reading me so I'm frustrated

like every good player that was night killed had me as town

Even Espeonage and Hopkirk weren't sure that I was scum. Esp wanted Hop before he died and Hopkirk was on the fence

[Dannflor]

1) lurkers are fucking poison to a mafia game

2) and if you think that's me being aggressive you haven't played with me enough

1) Agree but this lurker is a paragon. Again I won't lynch her for what may happen. She will be obvious scum tbh so I'm not concerned about a scum!nsg slipping through my fingers.

2) I was thinking the same thing when dann called me rude lol.

I guess if you had read a little bit more it wouldn't feel like you just latched onto the first explicitly scummy post you saw and then went 'Zomg obv scum.'

When I read through Dong's iso there are a lot of scummy posts, so much so that it seems too scummy to be scum. I think 'surely he would think before posting as scum.' So I'm not sure if he's a generally scummy player as town or if he's just scum here. I kind of need more from you on Dong so I know that your read is legit and you're not just surface level scum hunting as scum.

i like this post a lot I'll trust you on nsg

holy shit what the fuck

didn't BB call this post by cheeky out as scummy af later

[Dannflor]

What is post 881 Dann

Dann don't fucking ignore me, I want you to address that post of Cheeky's.

881

What is post 881 Dann

a bad post in favor of scum!Cheeky

not completely damning though

idk her self vote is really throwing me right now

do you see town!Cheeky making that post at all

[CheekyTeeky]

you've played objectively worse than me read wise

and yet you think I'm scum for BoP reasons

god what the fuck are you even doing

When you try to insult me maybe make sense.

My ability has no bearing on your BoP. My reads have been fine for me, I have correctly townread mislynches and have tried to solve this game using PoE rather than scumreads. I usually have a backwards process. You can be mad at me if you're town but really you should blame yourself for pushing two town players so single mindedly when town trusted you as their leader. Next time take a minute to consider arguments from others if you are town. This is a team game so fuck off with your ego.

[Dannflor]

It's just I made mistakes yeah

this isn't a great game from me

but that doesn't make me scum

I'm still very clearly town