Krazy's Post-Apocalypse uPick (Game Over)

[Past Present Future]

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

This 100% needs to be your sigline post-game.

~Fu

[alimdia]

I'm fluctuating between being annoyed and "whatever, large themes are dumb".

This set is a truckload of mechanics being ignored and misused, the biggest and most egregious case being TSE scavenging the item that would have made a doctor and made this setup have a 4-shot follow the cop strategy and now it just doesn't.

Can't roleblockers just... stop the follow the cop strategy?

Somewhere between 0 and 100% of the time. Were you Informed about a Lynchproof Bulletproof Mafia Roleblocker, you shouldn't play those modifiers close the vest for the record. >0% is more than enough for me to complain about a tradeoff that was "would you like to have a doc, or would you like for TSE to get to read a role PM that says "you pick up the magic red herb and put it into your satchel"
Like how are you trying to make this a conversation.

Yo

We’re a vig, shot Alch last night

We spent N1 getting a bullet and couldn’t shoot

VOTE: Alch

-Mist

Why does the roleblocker need to be lynchproof and bulletproof. Literally... just mafia roleblocker would work, and if you don't think theres one with all these power roles lying around....
Your comments about how we could have followed the cop rekt of fakeness

[Firebringer]

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

which alternate reality exists where ur town here?

[alimdia]

Yo

We’re a vig, shot Alch last night

We spent N1 getting a bullet and couldn’t shoot

VOTE: Alch

-Mist

Can you explain how you get bullets? And what kind of ammo you use.

At this point I would greatly prefer for you to be forced to detail your fullclaim with specificity before Cheast and Dasist has to.

I prefer to keep letting scum sweat at trying to mislynch me or do a 180 on me about how I'm town based off VCA.
Looking at PPF, whatever hydra is saying it.

VOTE: Alchrmist

Titus and a good rest convinced me.

~Fu

I do not endorse this vote or the tantrum being thrown.

I just am not going to change it to reduce spam. Get DEB or Alimeda to L minus 1. I'll ninja hammer.

~Titus

[alimdia]

It's funny, you didnt quote my post where I asked alchemist the same thing yesterday.

[Firebringer]

Hydras are fun!

this too.

if the hydra could not be voting alch anymore, that would be a gr8 help to not distract the game

[Past Present Future]

I have thought about the SK situation during the day and I'm a little worried about the idea of leashing a 3P, tho. Why would a SK agree with town terms if they'll inevitably lose? In DnD we won by lynching Miss Lynch at the end who defended herself saying that she townsided the whole game, but 3Ps have their own win condition. Why would a "caught" SK negotiate with town if they're already caught?

That being said, I don't think Alch is a caught SK. I'm still not convinced that he's not town. Even without the crumb I thought he did at the begining of the game, or the fucking idiotic fakeclaim by TSE, how his wagon was built on D1, as a counterwagon to alimdia's wagon, makes me believe that he doesn't have a team behind him that would have not let that happen, and that we were right on alimdia from the begining.

This still doesn't exclude the SK alternative, BUT if I were in Alch's situation, I think I would've claimed something different rather than a vig and refrain from shooting for a while in case there's a tracker, but if you're a SK and claim vig, you're constrained to kill every night and people will judge for them. That's not a 3P mindset, that's not good for your wincon.

But why did DM’s shot on him fail then? Why wouldn’t protective have been on SS? That’s why I think Alch is likely scum > SK > town. My hydra seems to be of the misconception that Alch claimed bp, when he never did that iirc. So, I can’t really see any explanation for his not dying other than he literally is scum.

But it’s also possible that a doc was on SS and scum has a strongman despite Flippy bs flip.

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

VOTE: Alchrmist

Titus and a good rest convinced me.

~Fu

I do not endorse this vote or the tantrum being thrown.

I just am not going to change it to reduce spam. Get DEB or Alimeda to L minus 1. I'll ninja hammer.

~Titus

We’re not lynching DEB, both Auro and I tl him, so I hard veto that today. If you vote DEB - an extremely likely mislynch, you’re gamethrowing and I won’t tolerate you doing that on my slot.

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

Alch killed mastina and SS was killed by the same flavor that Elsa claimed on D2, but Elsa said she fakeclaimed and it makes because 1. SS' clear was Elsa, and 2. It's Elsa lol.

Then Dats Mist came into the day claiming vigging Alch and voting him 'cause he doesn't believe there are three vigs, not knowing beforehand that Elsa already unclaimed.

Nancy believes Alch is scum because of killing mastina and surviving the shot. Titus thinks it's more likely that he's a SK so we should focus on catching scum because a SK would have to townside at this point if he wants to win, so there was some disonance in thread but I think they've solved it.

Except for the solving our dissonance. This is correct.

Nancy is going to whine until Alch is dead. Enjoy that.

~Titus

Because Nancy has better reads than you this game. Deal.

[Elsa Jay]

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

which alternate reality exists where ur town here?

That is this current reality, actually. Vig elsa was 5 dimensions over.

[Past Present Future]

Wow uh lots of pages not much actual content.
Alchemist is a probvig with some very, very scant SK equity that doesn't matter because SK!Alchemist fighting half a town and a full scumteam shoots at the scumteam. It's scant because his ammo isn't unlimited and SK is already a brutal role to win with when you have unlimited ammo and a vest. It'd even be more likely for him to have some bizarre 3p role like Collectors that can't win in a way that excludes the town from doing so.
Stop saying Elsa Jay is maybe SK. SS's role PM says the investigation returns what the wincon is precisely, not "mafia" "not mafia". I'm trying to decide if glossing over that so carelessly is alignment indicative, I don't think either head would intentionally misrepresent it but I've seen people push "scum skim more" before.
I could also talk about townreading the dead townie but that doesn't get us places. Did anyone use a cheap action to test DEB?

it says "truth of a player's alignment and all of their possible win conditions ONLY if they are human".

Yes, and jjh said "I investigated Elsa and got results", meaning he additionally learned for us that the Finn the

Human

part of his claim is true on top of "the results are town". Can you convince me you mentally slip this hard as both alignments? Because it's an awful, awful lot of mental gymnastics to keep Elsa in the lynchpool when I think she's played relatively townish anyway. VOTE: alimdia

What? How was I trying to keep Elsa in the lynchpool Thats some misrep right there.
I mentioned that part because...

I know what it returns in an investigation if they aren't human

Can you please explain the bolded to me? What exactly happens if you investigate a non-human slot?

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

which alternate reality exists where ur town here?

@Elsa did you ever explain the reasons for you fakeclaiming vig?

@Fire, fakeclaiming for Elsa is unfortunately NIA, see LNT where she did that as town.

~Fu

[Firebringer]

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

which alternate reality exists where ur town here?

That is this current reality, actually. Vig elsa was 5 dimensions over.

not sure about that.

I want vig elsa here.

[Firebringer]

@Fire, fakeclaiming for Elsa is unfortunately NIA, see LNT where she did that as town.

yes I know

[Past Present Future]

Hydras are fun!

this too.

if the hydra could not be voting alch anymore, that would be a gr8 help to not distract the game

Why shouldn’t we be voting him after DM claim and I know I was trying to get Alim lynched > TSE, because I hard tr that slot. I’m no longer convinced Alim is the best lynch today. For one thing, we aren’t dead. For another, SS was tr that slot and objected to my wagoning him. Also, his posts wrt to the killing methods read the opposite to me of a tmi.

~Fu

[Elsa Jay]

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

which alternate reality exists where ur town here?

@Elsa did you ever explain the reasons for you fakeclaiming vig?

@Fire, fakeclaiming for Elsa is unfortunately NIA, see LNT where she did that as town.

~Fu

Yes I did. Second or third post of today.

I was bored and I wanted to see if anyone here would believe me. I also wanted to see if anyone would call out my "if a friend dies I lose my ability" to see if it was legit in the game or not. Sadly I outmindgamed Kray Kray on that front.

[Past Present Future]

I'm town [redacted] neighbour

I have a solar powered walkie talkie, so I can talk in the neighbourhood during day.

I also have 2 rounds of light ammo, Usable in any small or light firearm and 4 rounds of heavy weapons ammo usable in any assault weapon or automatic rifle.

Take that as you will.

We already know the WT part is true from Elsa now being in the hood with Alim and the bolded makes it extremely unlikely that he killed SS, who once again had made it abundantly clear that they tr him prior to their death.

~Fu

[Past Present Future]

Ninja is a scum role in normal games

This is a theme game

Alimdia has not claimed a kill and thus it can be determined that the role alimdia has is not vig, but something else relevant to something they claimed before that

If scum had a strongman kill, there would have been a scumkill

To conclude, your mechanical spec sucks

-jj

If you want a towncase on deb it's that claiming miller as a scum commuter or ascetic is dumb as shit because you have built in protection against cop checks

[alimdia]

Wow uh lots of pages not much actual content.
Alchemist is a probvig with some very, very scant SK equity that doesn't matter because SK!Alchemist fighting half a town and a full scumteam shoots at the scumteam. It's scant because his ammo isn't unlimited and SK is already a brutal role to win with when you have unlimited ammo and a vest. It'd even be more likely for him to have some bizarre 3p role like Collectors that can't win in a way that excludes the town from doing so.
Stop saying Elsa Jay is maybe SK. SS's role PM says the investigation returns what the wincon is precisely, not "mafia" "not mafia". I'm trying to decide if glossing over that so carelessly is alignment indicative, I don't think either head would intentionally misrepresent it but I've seen people push "scum skim more" before.
I could also talk about townreading the dead townie but that doesn't get us places. Did anyone use a cheap action to test DEB?

it says "truth of a player's alignment and all of their possible win conditions ONLY if they are human".

Yes, and jjh said "I investigated Elsa and got results", meaning he additionally learned for us that the Finn the

Human

part of his claim is true on top of "the results are town". Can you convince me you mentally slip this hard as both alignments? Because it's an awful, awful lot of mental gymnastics to keep Elsa in the lynchpool when I think she's played relatively townish anyway. VOTE: alimdia

Sic on this guy instead

I never lie, I just tell truths from alternate realities.

which alternate reality exists where ur town here?

That is this current reality, actually. Vig elsa was 5 dimensions over.

not sure about that.

I want vig elsa here.

[alimdia]

Wow uh lots of pages not much actual content.
Alchemist is a probvig with some very, very scant SK equity that doesn't matter because SK!Alchemist fighting half a town and a full scumteam shoots at the scumteam. It's scant because his ammo isn't unlimited and SK is already a brutal role to win with when you have unlimited ammo and a vest. It'd even be more likely for him to have some bizarre 3p role like Collectors that can't win in a way that excludes the town from doing so.
Stop saying Elsa Jay is maybe SK. SS's role PM says the investigation returns what the wincon is precisely, not "mafia" "not mafia". I'm trying to decide if glossing over that so carelessly is alignment indicative, I don't think either head would intentionally misrepresent it but I've seen people push "scum skim more" before.
I could also talk about townreading the dead townie but that doesn't get us places. Did anyone use a cheap action to test DEB?

it says "truth of a player's alignment and all of their possible win conditions ONLY if they are human".

Yes, and jjh said "I investigated Elsa and got results", meaning he additionally learned for us that the Finn the

Human

part of his claim is true on top of "the results are town". Can you convince me you mentally slip this hard as both alignments? Because it's an awful, awful lot of mental gymnastics to keep Elsa in the lynchpool when I think she's played relatively townish anyway. VOTE: alimdia

What? How was I trying to keep Elsa in the lynchpool Thats some misrep right there.
I mentioned that part because...

I know what it returns in an investigation if they aren't human

Can you please explain the bolded to me? What exactly happens if you investigate a non-human slot?

~Fu

I'll keep that part to myself unless theres another cop out there that gives a result similar to what I expect for a non-human slot.
I'll believe that Elsa is town (or godfather) though, since SS would have said something if it was ... unclear...
Finally, pops... why would I try to keep my newfound mason buddy in the lynchpool?

[alimdia]

I reckon a good lynch is ... Alchemist for the no death, or Pinkball/Penguin

[Firebringer]

Sic on this guy instead

gl with that

[Past Present Future]

I reckon a good lynch is ... Alchemist for the no death, or Pinkball/Penguin

PB is town, so not interested in that

~Fu

[Alchemist21]

If Dats Mist is telling the truth and this isn’t a reaction test then the most likely explanation is that they were roleblocked. I don’t think scum would go out of their way to lie about a failed vig shot like that.

[Past Present Future]

If Dats Mist is telling the truth and this isn’t a reaction test then the most likely explanation is that they were roleblocked. I don’t think scum would go out of their way to lie about a failed vig shot like that.

Why would anyone roleblock them though? They hadn’t even claimed anything prior to today, so that really makes very little sense. Why wouldn’t scum have blocked you or Elsa?

~Fu