Open 771: Pollock's Flag [endgame!]

[Hectic]

Cat Scratch Fever is a secret admirer of flags. Last night, I saw her attending a Flag Festival. Sure, I was at the festival too, but I was only there for

research

purposes. Meanwhile, I spotted her exclusively hugging

greyscale

flags.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

[Hectic]

Bla's a coloured flag. Pointing out tonal reading on Pink Ball. Very good.

HEAL: Bla

[Hectic]

i may as well claim now. i am a flag, but i will not say of what type. just let it be known i'm no goddamn greyscale flag. that's all there is to it really. if you don't believe me you don't believe me. but you're a fool then. nah, i wouldn't call you a fool, you're more like a flag sympathiser. which if fine, nothing explicitly wrong with that. just check your colours.

[Hectic]

let it be known that a resize was in order. nothing personal. sometimes you just want to keep your flags in check and ensure one doesn't dominate the limelight. TSE what's with the picking every fourth person? you couldn't even pick non-pattern randomly because you didn't want to WIFOM your fellow

flags

? i see right through you, flag cultist.

[Hectic]

@mod: V/LA until the 10th.

[Hectic]

Bla claiming scum with mods rather than people actually in the game? don't tell me i'll find flags in your closet too??? who are you flag-admiring with, playerlist-wise?

[Hectic]

Relax. Bla is a townread. He's a great player, and my worldview would be shattered if I were to find he had flags hanging from his washing line. In fact, I was visiting his home the other day to play 2 player mafia with him, and I saw no such evidence of anything like that in his back garden. Though, I did happen to spot a weird white sheet hanging out of a rogue laundry basket. But that must've been a bed sheet cover... right, Bla?

[Hectic]

VOTE: Hectic

Dude’s obsessed with flags. So sus.

I wouldn't say obsessed... but I don't mind coloured flags! You wouldn't find me within a mile of any

greyscale

flags though. Don't make me puke.

[Hectic]

I don't read scum PT.
Hectic can confirm that.

Can confirm. Poor sh0s.

[Hectic]

rooroo's dangerous. she has a knack for deepwolfing as scum and invokes fear in most. sometimes, her own scum buddies kill her out of paranoia. i'm down to policy-leave-her-alive till endgame because scum might shoot her anyway if she's scum.

[Hectic]

I don't know. Last time I suggested a policy lynch, RC left the game.

are you joking? i can't actually tell lol. anyway, i'm proposing the opposite of a policy lynch.

[Hectic]

this is gonna be a fun game

[Hectic]

TSE, why was your first thought that Looker was putting one scum in each of those categories, save for one? What gave you that impression?

[Hectic]

I will just let everyflag get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

[Hectic]

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

VOTE: Creature because he has the most votes.

This is a weird sequence of posts.

Does your opinion change if you're told that Looker made that same post earlier, and Bla repeating it was a meme?

[Hectic]

I will just let everyflag get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

This is twon becus hs'e jking adn playeing the gmae!!!

Thanks, friend! What's your favourite type of flag?

[Hectic]

Bla was a cult leader in my previous game. Which probably means he's town this game, statistically speaking. Cat Scratch Fever could be scum, but only if I am also scum. Which I am not, which means she's also town.

Spoiler: For Cat Scratch Fever's Eyes only

I'm slightly worried that some people are onto our

s c u m t h e a t r e

. The original picture doesn't even have the flag in it, so they might realise we edited it in photoshop to prepare for the meme.

[Hectic]

TSE, why was your first thought that Looker was putting one scum in each of those categories, save for one? What gave you that impression?

Because I thought they wanted to narrow down whom to lynch.
I was confused what it was and that looked like something I’d do so I figured Looker would do the same.

-TSE

this early in the game? how would Looker categorise people that hadn't even posted yet? ya know?

[Hectic]

ooooo, good idea, Bla.

i would like everyone to post their favourite flag please. this is very important. i will reveal towniness/scuminess levels corresponding to each flag after everyone has posted.

[Hectic]

By the way, nice signature, Creature.

it's a pretty negative one tbh, i like yours better

[Hectic]

oh no, anything but that. fine, here's a captcha for you. name one thing in this picture:

[Hectic]

thank you for this image. it has touched my heart.

you're welcome, all i ask for in return is your vote. the weird dog/dark pillow/blanket thing is what freaks me out the most.

[Hectic]

Spoiler: This is how your spoiler

Check the PT, Cat Scratch Fever. There's a very angry rant waiting for you there.

[Hectic]

hi am durnk asn aldo a black flag scum lol;

VOTE: rooroo

The truth comes out when you're drunk

VOTE: AaronFF
Hey, Aaron, my Aaron. Was this an RVS vote? Or did you simply see nothing else worth voting before this?

[Hectic]

There was no pressure on him? Do you mean he felt obliged to say something?

[Hectic]

@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?

Bla and Cat Scratch Fever are townleans. Surprised by the lack of analysis from Clidd, but it's early days, so I'll give him time. Oh, right, you're Clidd lol. Amrun nullscum? Mostly from how her tone feels off this game. TSE also a scumlean for some weird questioning/theories so far. rb's townish for sorting through the memery. Liking Pink Ball based on that clidd read just now. Looker nullscum because she usually has more to give by 175.

VOTE: TrueSoulHustler

[Hectic]

@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?

Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?

It would be the opposite: why not ?

if we're playing this game: why not ask anyone else?

[Hectic]

Oof, let me stop you there, clidd. You should not be linking to posts in on-going games, let alone referring to them.

@mod: I don't think he knew he was breaking any rules.

[Hectic]

Have a look at rule 5 here, clidd: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6470

I don't he should be banned/suspended for this. It was clearly an innocent mistake.

[Hectic]

Lul, don't answer that. That's kinda unsportsmanlike. He might get to stay/get force-replaced.

[Hectic]

TSE, why was your first thought that Looker was putting one scum in each of those categories, save for one? What gave you that impression?

Because I thought they wanted to narrow down whom to lynch.
I was confused what it was and that looked like something I’d do so I figured Looker would do the same.

-TSE

this early in the game? how would Looker categorise people that hadn't even posted yet? ya know?

Mind answering this, TSE?

[Hectic]

Well what the hell.
Why not.
Clidd can be IC.

-TSE

Also, why does that make clidd an IC?

[Hectic]

Rooroo do you have any reads?

ha, i'm expecting great things in response to this post, rooroo. something like the rainbow list of reads from the jester nightless game.

[Hectic]

Hey sorry been busy lately. Will catch up later today.

Aaron! What's your favourite type of flag? You can trust me; I won't judge.

[Hectic]

Not liking something = thinking it's scummy, TSE.

[Hectic]

I'm narrowing down my votes to Amrun, AaronFrost and rooroo; I like rb and Pink Ball (especially since he dropped that atrocious posting style). Still shooting in the dark here.

Hey sorry been busy lately. Will catch up later today.

Narrowing down further to Amrun vs rooroo

VOTE: rooroo Place a vote

Spoiler:

Creature (2)

: Uncrowned, Blatant Scum

TrueSoulHustler (3):

Hectic, Cat Scratch Fever, Amrun

rooroo (2):

AaronFrost, Looker

Pink Ball (1):

rb

Amrun (1):

TrueSoulHustler

Blatant Scum (1):

Creature

not voting: Rooroo, clidd, Pink Ball
13 alive, 7 to lynch?

as much as i love AaronFF as the next guy; you ruled him out for that? you don't happen to have any banners on your person, do you?

[Hectic]

Well what the hell.
Why not.
Clidd can be IC.

-TSE

Also, why does that make clidd an IC?

From his previous posts.
It makes him above rand town.
Which I’m calling an IC for now.
Can I not do that?

You seem defensive. IC implies strong townread, not above rand-town. Also, why is clidd proving his pop-in was NAI even make him above rand-town?

[Hectic]

I don't get Hectic's flags. I also didn't get the Temmie joke until it was too late.

The Black Flag is memey. The White Flag is scumhunty. The Grey Flag is a mix.

Address 296?

[Hectic]

Hey, Aaron, my Aaron. Was this an RVS vote? Or did you simply see nothing else worth voting before this?

RVS. Why?

thought it was a little odd for page 4, but looking back, the previous pages were

mostly

memeing, so whatever. the moorica flag you provided earlier was bus driver-indicative. interesting.

[Hectic]

I prefer Amrun to TSH at this point. From my experiences/thoughts about Mafia as a whole, I generally agree with her stance on TSH's reactions/defensiveness.

as town i'm assuming? are you still happy with your Creature vote? he's a dragon ya know.

[Hectic]

TSE, you're arguing semantics. My point was that "not liking" implied finding it scummy in that context. Or as Amrun said, it's a colloquial way of saying it. I'm aware that you can have bad posts which aren't scummy.
The "Can I not do that?" is what pinged me as defensive.
I posted some reads earlier in my ISO.

Could you show me where you think clidd townslipped?

[Hectic]

Damn, if only I'd known how my early game memeing would've been analysed to such an extent, I'd have upped the quality of my shitposting.

[Hectic]

this is the town!clidd I'm used to seeing. the analysis was fleshed-out and I'm throwing clidd into the town dumpster until further notice (the dumpster is luxurious and free of OMGUSers - no need to fear, clidd).

for anyone wondering, these are clidd's scumgames:

número 1
número 2

(número means number - please don't modkill me)

as you can see, he didn't post a lot, the analysis there wasn't close to what's he's presented here, and then he repped out of each one)

[Hectic]

What happened to this?
Why is there so much content?

A couple of newbies decided to argue over who liked me the best.

[Hectic]

Something about TSE's posting style feels clunky and hard to read as well and it's not a posting style I've seen him use in other games before

Completely agree with Aaron here. Feeling really good about TrueSoulHustler-scum. I wouldn't read too much into them being a black flag, since I don't think their early game and recent AtE was designed to look scummy and attract a lynch.

[Hectic]

I don't think that sharing my reads in front of Hectic is a good idea.

Okay hectic promised in the scum pt to cover his eyes, so you can feel free to share your reads.

Can confirm; am currently covering my eyes. Touch-typing with one hand is difficult, but I'm just about managing.

[Hectic]

Why was AaronFF removed from your vote pool? What happened in-between those posts? 292 was the only post Aaron made between them.

I'm narrowing down my votes to Amrun, AaronFrost and rooroo; I like rb and Pink Ball (especially since he dropped that atrocious posting style). Still shooting in the dark here.

Hey sorry been busy lately. Will catch up later today.

Narrowing down further to Amrun vs rooroo

VOTE: rooroo Place a vote

Spoiler:

Creature (2)

: Uncrowned, Blatant Scum

TrueSoulHustler (3):

Hectic, Cat Scratch Fever, Amrun

rooroo (2):

AaronFrost, Looker

Pink Ball (1):

rb

Amrun (1):

TrueSoulHustler

Blatant Scum (1):

Creature

not voting: Rooroo, clidd, Pink Ball
13 alive, 7 to lynch?

[Hectic]

lul, take it easy, Looker. go have a break. i'm just trying to sort you and understand your thought process, pal.

[Hectic]

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

Could you elaborate on this please? What don't you like about her defence of you?

[Hectic]

strongest to weakest:
hectic, doesnt reak of agenda, seems like they are pushing for things thatd benefit town (besides our hang), solid content
clidd, before his tone seemed off but lately hes gone above and beyond effort-wise
aaron, has the right focus, tonal read
-mm

i'm kind of paranoid of being your strongest read here tbh. looking back, 561 does look kinda agenda-ey, you were fine with the confidence in that post?

[Hectic]

I agree with the consensus on rb (now woodchuck) and Pink Ball. rb was really towny. Pink Ball was kinda sus, and the conclusions he drew with the hatchetting clidd thing didn't feel genuine.

[Hectic]

I'm actually tetrachromatic, but also unfortunately have a pschological disorder where I can only view colour in

greyscale

. Just to check, the flags I've been dropping at the end of my posts are red, blue, and green. Right?

[Hectic]

what's rooroo's not trolling main?

[Hectic]

What about TrueSoulHustler, Pink Ball?

[Hectic]

explain again why you disliked Amrun's vote on you, TSE? i voted you because i disliked some of your play, which meant that i found it scummy. Amrun did the same thing, what's the difference other than her vote coming after mine?
for the record though, i do find Amrun slightly flag-obsessed this game in some greyscale ways, but it's for entirely different reasons to you.

[Hectic]

VOTE: RooRoo

Why is RooRoo a better lynch over Amrun?

-TSE

this seems like a really weird question to ask given Uncrowned had just listed Amrun as a townread.

Amrun as a lynch today

Who do you think links RooRoo’s Partner?
Assuming RooRoo is scum. Who would be their partner?

as does this. the honing in on talking about partners so early feels a little unnatural/odd.

[Hectic]

realised during my COMPELTELY FLAG-UNRELATED shower that i should better explain my thought process there. the reason why i think "odd" and "weird" is scum-indicative in this case is because it looks like forced scumhunting, as in i don't think the questions asked there are very useful for TSE, and are more asked for appearances. no idea why you think i'd bring in flags into my shower... Haha that's ridiculous. No way.

[Hectic]

Spoiler:

Catching up on this later today. For now, I'd like to ask Cat Scratch Fever to STOP posting cat GiFs immediately. I'm feeling very buddied.

Spoiler:

Also, about TrueSoulHustler: I do think that if he's scum, there's a non-negligible chance he's playing like a jester and is the Black Flag, mostly from the weird angle at attacking Amrun, and stuff like posting "I'll vote for that person if you get more votes on them", but I don't know how likely it is. Maybe 50% chance they're the Black Flag if scum. 33% being the baseline for any given scum.

Pleasant journeys, coloured (I hope) flag bearers.

[Hectic]

Also, about TrueSoulHustler: I do think that if he's scum, there's a non-negligible chance he's playing like a jester and is the Black Flag, mostly from the weird angle at attacking Amrun, and stuff like posting "I'll vote for that person if you get more votes on them", but I don't know how likely it is. Maybe 50% chance they're the Black Flag if scum. 33% being the baseline for any given scum.

[Hectic]

Back from my Fla- uh, my...

flamingo

escapade! Yes, I visited many FLAMINGO friends while I was away. Time to read through.

[Hectic]

oh, never mind, life beckons. before I go though; i will say that clidd's recent inactivity is a little unusual for him, and looking back, all his analysis has been crammed into that one large wallpost. i'm more used to analysis/explanations in nearly

every

post, and having jsut hte one could suggest scum!him efforted for it, and has been disinterested otherwise - remember i have reason to believe that clidd doesn't like playing scum. clidd has been retracted from the town dumpster for now, and has instead been asked to take a Flag seat at the back of the room, to be evaluated later.

[Hectic]

Hectic, are you still town on Blatant Scum?

Will recheck him when I return.

[Hectic]

How would you rate your skill at playing Secret Hitler, Cat Scratch Fever?

[Hectic]

How would you rate your skill at playing Secret Hitler, Cat Scratch Fever?

Very good, evidently

Lul, I'm treating this as a confirm.

[post=https://i.imgur.com/Rvrqdmt.png]https://i.imgur.com/Rvrqdmt.png[/post]

[Hectic]

How would you rate your skill at playing Secret Hitler, Cat Scratch Fever?

Very good, evidently

Lul, I'm treating this as a confirm.

[post=https://i.imgur.com/Rvrqdmt.png]https://i.imgur.com/Rvrqdmt.png[/post]

[Hectic]

btw

VOTE: TSH

How likely do you think he's the Black Flag?

[Hectic]

Clidd, I want you to know that you have a secret admirer. I won't specify whether you've played with her but she's starting a fanclub about you. I'm not even kidding in the slightest.

[Hectic]

No one hammer this yet; I want to reevaluate how likely this is Black Flag tomorrow. I think it's hard to justify not lynching TSH here, but it's potentially correct to lynch others we think are scum, and leave him on the table for like a day 3 lynch if we hit town day 1 and 2. Depends on how likely we think he's Black Flag.
But based on meta, he's very likely scum just on the completely different tone he has this game, and how he's been treating my slot when I've been questioning him.

(Imagine a picture of a green flag here)

[Hectic]

Bla, I know you hate giving reads, but could you at least tell us who your top scumread is and why? And if it's TSH, tell us your 2nd as well please.

(Really lovely azure blue flag)

[Hectic]

In fact, if we can semi-confidently pin TSH as the Black Flag, we're guaranteed to win upon lynching any other scum. Since White Flag wins instantly, and Grey Flag means we need to lynch 1 scum after (TSH), and win. So this plan could backfire for them heavily if this is the route they've chosen.

(Warm orange glow type flag)

[Hectic]

UNVOTE:
Do not put him on L-1; he can self-hammer. Be back later.

(Emerald flag with crimson streaks)

[Hectic]

Apologies for the inactivity, been stressed because of university and was not having a good mental health day yesterday. I'll be around later tonight.

Sending <3 your way.

[Hectic]

Looking for jester stuff in TrueSoulHustler's ISO:

Let’s start off with 3 names we’d be willing to vote.
Since there’s 1 Mafia where if we lynch them we auto win.
I’ll start. Rb, Rooroo and Cat Scratch Fever.

Lol I just took the 4th players.
But I’ll go ahead and make some real ones when everyone’s checked in and gave enough content.

-TSE

This feels like a jestery entrance. Very attention seeking in how he picked 3 names that weren't even random because he took every 4th player. I immediately pointed it out as slightly scummy.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

Hot Take™

but using "villagery" instead of "towny" is actually jester-indicative if mm doesn't normally used that terminology. Reason being it's just a slightly weirder way of calling a post town. It's not scummy, but intentionally going out of the way to use different terminology is actually jester-indicative. I don't know mm's real account; someone provide please.

wait

there's hydras in this game

Yes, but I'm not a hydra to be clear

TrueSoulHustler is the only hydra in this game

He’s my partner in crime.
If yos mafia, yos better watch out!

-TSE

Initially townread this post because of how ridiculously LAMIST it was, but coming from the angle that he's jester messing around also makes sense.

So I see we're still in RVS.

{Creature | Amrun | Uncrowned} - the cool kids table
{rooroo | AaronFrost | rb} - the kids who take band table
{Pink Ball | Cat Scratch Fever} - Regina George's table
{Blatant Scum | Hectic | TrueSoulHustler} - the buffet table oink

Do you think the scum is within these categories.
As in 1 from each row leaving out one row as there is 3 mafia and not 4.
?

-TSE

In case I didn’t explain myself properly as I have poor communication skills and MM has good communication (one of the reasons I Hydra with them) I’m now going to give you an example of what I mean.

So do you believe the scum team could be like, Amrun, PinkBall and Hectic.
But never rooroo, AaronFrost and Rb?

-TSE

And then we come to these two posts. This when I started properly scumreading him for trying to scumhunt/draw conclusions from an obviously joke post. And not only that, drawing conclusions in a very strange way. Like, there's 4 categories there and the first thing he concludes is that Looker's placing scum in all but one category? Why not scum all consisting in one category? They were all 3-person groups other than one. It's all very strange, and this type of strangeness is more jestery than scummy, I think. I'm sure TSE isn't this bad at fake scumhunting as scum, right?

[Hectic]

I didn’t catch the “Grey” part but it still looks like possible theatre.
Although for now, I’ll ignore it.

-TSE

Grey part?

[Hectic]

More jester stuff:

Spoiler:

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

I think TSE knows how mafia works to not make these posts as non-jester. It's such a stupid issue to focus on that draws attention to yourself.

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

Planned via scum chat to say that exact same thing, in what way does this help scum? Another ridiculous take which is more jestery than anything.

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

Pointing out something he did could be scummy. This is a pretty good one.

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

Not attempting to really defend himself. He doesn't really care about being lynched.

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

Specifically refutes a point that suggests they're the Black Flag.

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

Seems he's resigned himself to being lynched with the "No one hammer me before AF comes on." Has no fight in him, doesn't want to actually survive.

Also, I have new flag for jester hunting, do you guys like it?

[Hectic]

Anyway I’m Town.
Shouldn’t be a surprise.

-TSE

You know who’s probably the black flag though.
Or maybe even the white.

Spoiler:

Amrun

-TSE

He got lazy here, think he's achieved the lynch on him. Just calliing himself town, not really trying to push Amrun seriously anymore. Doesn't even seem mad. And then considers Amrun a Black or White Flag, and not a Grey specifically. Lul, what kind of conclusion is that? I'm feeling good about this being Black Flag.

[Hectic]

I’m busy today but amrun and uncrowned’s recent posts have been better. I think I prefer voting TSH

Best way to work out flag color is probably through preflip VCA, but that requires making many assumptions. there’s been enough resistance around the TSH wagon that I don’t think it’s necessarily going to flip black flag, Hectic. His lynch will also provide the most info imo.

TrueSoulHustler never even had any interest in voting their counterwagon (rooroo). He's been on a vanity wagon on Amrun which he hasn't seriously tried to push the entire game. I say we leave him alive for now and treat him as psuedo-confirmed scum that is most likely Black Flag. We lynch him if we haven't lynched scum by Lylo, or a day before Lylo.

[Hectic]

Doesn’t TSH always say weird things that attract attention to himself? That’s the general impression I have of him.

Nowhere near the extent of this from what I've seen. Issue now is finding next most likely scum.

[Hectic]

Anyway I’m Town.
Shouldn’t be a surprise.

-TSE

You know who’s probably the black flag though.
Or maybe even the white.

Spoiler:

Amrun

-TSE

He got lazy here, think he's achieved the lynch on him. Just calliing himself town, not really trying to push Amrun seriously anymore. Doesn't even seem mad. And then considers Amrun a Black or White Flag, and not a Grey specifically. Lul, what kind of conclusion is that? I'm feeling good about this being Black Flag.

TSH knew he hadn’t been hammered yet there. he knew clidd was already voting him.

I know. By "lazy" I mean he feels like he's enjoying this. Town or scum would be survivalistic in this game state or a lot more frustrated. Instead, he makes the semi-joke push post on Amrun which he knows by now has no chance of succeeding.

[Hectic]

As the black flag mafia.
I have no such Fears.
But I'm inclined to wonder.
Why the townspeople are so confident that TSH is not the Black flag mafia.
Lynching a very widely scumread top poster.
Who could almost deterministically be getting himself lynched.
By a combination of not writing very readable posts and brute force.
On day 1.
Seems like a questionable course of action lol.
Perhaps we should instead be lynching Nullscums with antitown behavior.
Such as myself.

This post alone probably makes rooroo town if TSH is Black Flag.

I think Bla/Creature are both good nullscum lynches, sucks for information, but decent for sniping scum. Amrun for her tone this game. (I'm trying not to think about what TrueSoulHustler pushing Amrun means if he's Black Flag - I think he could choose scum or town as his shitpush, and I'm not sure which he's more likely to choose).

[Hectic]

R.I.P. Pink Ball's tonal reading.

This is the only town post Bla made. Since then he's kinda just done... nothing. Worth noting that his CL-meta is nothing like this though lol

[Hectic]

What do you think, Cat Scratch Fever?

[Hectic]

What’s CL-meta?

It does bother me that several people voting for TSH haven’t mentioned anything about what they think his flag color is. It matters a lot. Winning 10:3 white flag is already difficult, trying to win 10:3 mountainous I don’t really even want to think about it.

Cult leader-meta. And yeah, exactly, I really don't think TrueSoulHustler is the right option today.

[Hectic]

I can take a look at his scumgames in an hour.

I don’t feel a BS or Sky lynch because if we mislynch, we’ll be at the same place tomorrow.

Cool, that'd be helpful.

btw

VOTE: TSH

btw

VOTE: TSH

How likely do you think he's the Black Flag?

I think I'm okay with voting Skygazer based on her ignoring this question and going offline, despite it coming less than a minute after her post. I mean, yeah, that might've just been when she decided to go offline. But I think if TrueSoulHustler is Black Flag, that is the worst question for scum to be asked right now, so the possibility of her ignoring it is scum-indicative.

VOTE: Skygazer

[Hectic]

So you're trying to WIFOM us now with which Flag you are?

[Hectic]

More jester stuff:

Spoiler:

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

I think TSE knows how mafia works to not make these posts as non-jester. It's such a stupid issue to focus on that draws attention to yourself.

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

Planned via scum chat to say that exact same thing, in what way does this help scum? Another ridiculous take which is more jestery than anything.

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

Pointing out something he did could be scummy. This is a pretty good one.

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

Not attempting to really defend himself. He doesn't really care about being lynched.

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

Specifically refutes a point that suggests they're the Black Flag.

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

Seems he's resigned himself to being lynched with the "No one hammer me before AF comes on." Has no fight in him, doesn't want to actually survive.

Also, I have new flag for jester hunting, do you guys like it?

I disagree.
Not all of that was Jester stuff SMH.

VOTE: TSH

This is

L-1.

Oh shit.
Didn’t see that vote.

You're scumclaiming with these posts. Correct?

[Hectic]

RIP, oh well. Strong feeling this is flipping Black Flag, but hope you guys are right!

[Hectic]

I hardclaimed white flag on page 2 of this game and no one CC’ed soooOOOooo

I CC.

[Hectic]

imagine pushing the Grey Flag for the entire day but then getting cold feet at the end due to overestimating TSE
thanks for pushing that one through, guys.
also, I'm really surprised by the Looker nightkill; she was literally on a counterwagon end of day? her reads might be worth looking into if she was killed for that.

[Hectic]

Plus: I am disappointed Hectic.

lul, about what, clidd?

[Hectic]

Yeah, I'm annoyed I jester-tunneled. Wish I'd read the game Cat Scratch Fever linked me before when I first started having doubts. Anyway, I feel dead and sleep beckons. I'll tackle this tomorrow.

[Hectic]

I mean, I'm biased, but clidd's right in that there's no way scum!me pushes my Grey Flag from the start to the whole day, and then last minute tries to stop it. If I'm hard bussing, I'm going all the way for that sweet, sweet towncred.

rooroo has a point about that Uncrowned post. Uncrowned, why is your first assumption that scum kills Looker to FRAME people she's scumreading, rather than the people she's scumreading simply being scum? Doesn't the latter make a lot more sense for killing someone off the TSE wagon than the former?

(Imagine an absolutely majestic amber and lapis embedded silver flag)

[Hectic]

Ok let's see

Amrun, AaronFrost, rooroo, CSF, Hectic, woodchuck all town from most to least.
Uncrowned null.
Blatant Scum, Sky and clidd scumreads from least to most scum.

Amrun was TSH's reaction vote, that wasn't faked by them. Amrun is townspewed by TSH
AaronFrost stated he wanted to vote me or TSH but decided to vote flipped gray flag in a moment that a wagon on me would've gotten traction. Unless you think I'm the white flag and Aaron is the black flag, this move makes no sense for scum!Aaron.
rooroo spewed town via counterwagon UNLESS she's the black flag which could be but I don't think so.
CSF and Hectic both pushed TSH early in the game and there's where TSH started to show off their true colors, so it wasn't planned.
woodchuck 'cause even if I still think clidd is white flag, rb doesn't make sense as black flag. Also I don't really care about this slot 'cause untasteful shit.

Uncrowned while I like his stances, wagonomics says the opposite.

Blatant makes sense as black flag.
Sky because Creature tried to derail TSH wagon by voting lynchbait!Blatant.
clidd because TSH called him IC for no fucking reason and got defensive when Hectic asked him why it was an IC, and said some stupid bullshit like "he townslipped" LOL

So clidd is the white flag, and one of Blatant/Sky is the black flag.

If you guys still don't want to lynch clidd 'cause you're not convinced, lynch bot Blatant and Sky in a row, and if I'm wrong lynch me then. Then you go to lylo with some obvtown players that will surely win it since we already have at least 4 players who are all spewed town thanks to TSH (Amrun, Aaron, CSF, Hectic since rooroo could be black flag and woodchuck whatever. At least one of the 4 goes to LyLo and that's good odds)

I agree with pretty much all this stuff without actually looking back myself.
From memory:
-rooroo hinted at TSH possibly being Black Flag long before I had my suspicions, need to look at who was actually behind the rooroo counterwagon

Why can't clidd have also been townspewed? That debacle with clidd may look pretty NAIish to us, but maybe in TSE's mind that made it look obvious that clidd was town (because he knows he's town).

(Flag of the Byazantine Empire)

[Hectic]

vote count 1.14

TrueSoulHustler (4)

: Hectic, Amrun, AaronFrost, clidd

rooroo (3)

: Looker, Uncrowned, woodchuck321

Uncrowned (2)

: Cat Scratch Fever, Rooroo

Creature (1)

: Blatant Scum

Amrun (1)

: TrueSoulHustler

Blatant Scum (1)

: Creature

clidd (1)

: Pink Ball

not voting:

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-16 08:00:00)

mod notes: AaronFrost v/la 13/02
♥ remember to ♥ take ♥ the maf♥iascum ♥ valentines ♥ quiz ♥
quack

It probably just is Bla, but it looks like he's gonna get replaced so we should wait for his replacement.

rooroo could be the White Flag. The VC above shows her "counterwagon" could've been all town, and something which TrueSoulHustler never jumps onto. Also, she's actually given reads and thoughts out this game, which might suggest she has an increased incentive to not be lynched. Plus the suggesting TrueSoulHustler could be the Black Flag long before anyone else.

Bla as Black Flag makes sense given his blatant evading giving out reads when asked by Cat Scratch Fever, and lack of doing anything really yesterday.

Spoiler:

[Hectic]

VOTE: rooroo

Leaving this option open. Bla is still my slight preference.

Spoiler:

[Hectic]

vote count 1.15

TrueSoulHustler (4)

: Hectic, Amrun, AaronFrost, clidd

rooroo (3)

: Looker, Uncrowned, woodchuck321

Uncrowned (2)

: Cat Scratch Fever, Rooroo

Creature (1)

: Blatant Scum

Amrun (1)

: TrueSoulHustler

Blatant Scum (1)

: Creature

clidd (1)

: Pink Ball

not voting:

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-16 08:00:00)

mod notes: AaronFrost v/la 13/02
♥ remember to ♥ take ♥ the maf♥iascum ♥ valentines ♥ quiz ♥
quack, quack.

If Amrun doesn’t have at least 3 votes during morning.
I’m switching to Rooroo as I want to live to get a scum lynched.
But who knows. Rooroo could be Amrun’s Scum Buddy.

-TSE

I actually feel that, if either Amrun or rooroo is scum, you're most likely to be scum with one of them.

---

• You haven't left an impression yet, Cat Scratch.

You think I’m scum with Amrun or Rooroo?
I mean maybe Rooroo but I’ve been pushing Amrun ever since they gave me scum vibes.

VOTE: Rooroo

Never mind the rooroo theory; TrueSoulHustler does join the rooroo wagon, and it actually equals rooroo and his own wagon at 4 votes a piece. rooroo's probably town.

[Hectic]

rooroo has a point about that Uncrowned post. Uncrowned, why is your first assumption that scum kills Looker to FRAME people she's scumreading, rather than the people she's scumreading simply being scum? Doesn't the latter make a lot more sense for killing someone off the TSE wagon than the former?

Could you answer this please? I also noticed that you were scumreading Looker here:

{Uncrowned}
{Hectic, Cat, Pink Ball}
{AaronFrost, Woodchuck}
{Amrun}
{Clidd}
{Rooroo}
{Blatant Scum, Creature}
{TrueSoulHustler, Looker}

Why would scum killing Looker mean they were trying to incriminate you since you were scumreading her? Why would anyone reach that conclusion?

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Zero content all day, literally never commented on TSH even one single time, and was off wagon. Really think this slot is much higher than rand scum.



Clidd is my pick for on wagon scum but I think off wagon is safer way to go.

Sheeping this.

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Also, why the sheep here?

Apologies for the impromptu flagerration, but I think you're my second pick after Bla for a Flag now, surprisingly.

[Hectic]

VOTE: Uncrowned

Spoiler:

[Hectic]

Honestly really feeling like we should just lynch Blatant Scum here. Best case scenario, he's scum, worst case scenario, we get rid of a town liability that shouldn't live until lylo anyways if we reach it. If that doesn't win us the game, then we look into Uncrowned tomorrow.

Aaron Fucking Frost! I agree, but no harm in waiting for a replacement regardless.

[Hectic]

CSF get your head out of your ass

[Hectic]

@Hectic CSF knows me, she knows the tone I'm using while saying that

Always remember: I'm adorable

[Hectic]

Is he being replaced? I don't remember seeing that

Spoiler:

I predict he will be considering he was prodded a while ago.

Spoiler:

[Hectic]

That's L-1; admittedly, I am kind of tempted to hammer. Correct play is to wait... but that's boring.

Spoiler: Intent Flag but not actually Real Intent

[Hectic]

Wait, hang on. New theory:

rooroo is the Black Flag, so she doesn't troll as much this game so people get suspicious of her a totally trying and lynch her. Explains why the Grey Flag (TrueSoulHustler) would be willing to join her wagon. And also why rooroo suggests TrueSoulHustler could be the Black Flag earlier on in the day.

(Light bulb flag)

[Hectic]

[Hectic]

Amrun, Titus/Bla is still my preferred vote; as I previously stated lol. I didn't vote earlier since the slot was on L-1.

[Hectic]

I'm intentionally trying to create alternate options/wagons so that if we are wrong on that slot, we at least have other stuff to look at rather than a sole town wagon with no counterwagons.

[Hectic]

I’m going to hammer in a few hours if no one has objections. We can always get uncrowned tomorrow if need be.

I object. Pretty sure Clidd is obvscum coasting and posting to demoralize town.

I also object to uncrowned before rooroo.

Why does Clidd post to demoralise town and draw attention to himself like that while town!you is getting lynched? You're implying his recent posts were faked frustration?

[Hectic]

I’d still prefer to lynch Bla first, Hectic.

As would I currently.

[Hectic]

I’m going to hammer in a few hours if no one has objections. We can always get uncrowned tomorrow if need be.

I object. Pretty sure Clidd is obvscum coasting and posting to demoralize town.

I also object to uncrowned before rooroo.

Why does Clidd post to demoralise town and draw attention to himself like that while town!you is getting lynched? You're implying his recent posts were faked frustration?

Titus?

PB, I hope you're okay and this doesn't deter you from playing in future games or anything like that. If it means anything, I've enjoyed your presence in this one.

+10 to this

[Hectic]

Why does Clidd post to demoralise town and draw attention to himself like that while town!you is getting lynched? You're implying his recent posts were faked frustration?

Scum don't win if only I am lynched. They have to run a gauntlet.

Eh, I'm not sure whether you actually believe this. Clidd faking frustration and trying to demoralise others, rather than being genuinely frustrated (whether he's scum or town) seems quite farfetched.

It sounds like something you're latching onto but isn't actually scum-indicative, and is probably more town-indicative than anything imo (unless clidd is exactly scum with you).

(A withering flower towered over by a glowing sunrise... on a Flag)

[Hectic]

Thanks to everyone in that matter, I read your posts and they made me feel better. Have fun.

Much love <3

(A Flag with a smiling emoji - kinda like this: but bigger)

[Hectic]

VOTE: Titus L-2

[Hectic]

Why does Clidd post to demoralise town and draw attention to himself like that while town!you is getting lynched? You're implying his recent posts were faked frustration?

Scum don't win if only I am lynched. They have to run a gauntlet.

Eh, I'm not sure whether you actually believe this. Clidd faking frustration and trying to demoralise others, rather than being genuinely frustrated (whether he's scum or town) seems quite farfetched.

It sounds like something you're latching onto but isn't actually scum-indicative, and is probably more town-indicative than anything imo (unless clidd is exactly scum with you).

(A withering flower towered over by a glowing sunrise... on a Flag)

What makes you think that frustration can't ever come from scum? Scum are in a pretty bad spot right now only needing one of them to go down in order to lose, so frustration from that end is possible.

Less likely if Titus is town, but I guess so if Pink Ball's lynch order was correct and Skygazer/Uncrowned and Clidd are scum. Could be premature frustration at what's coming tomorrow.


Nice, France.

[Hectic]

Uncrowned is who I'm looking at tomorrow if Titus flips town.

I think Titus dies today for predecessor + strange clidd is faking frustration to demoralise town theory. Like, I get Pink Ball scumreading the slot since it could be scum frustration, but suggesting the frustration was faked for strategic demoralisation I really don't get.

Someone swing in with the hammer.

(Flag of a flag of a flag of a flag of a flag...etc - the flagception incurs a state of catatonia for those who look too closely)

[Hectic]

Why is Titus town, Pink Ball?

(/^^)

[Hectic]

Name one reason why I shouldn't scumread you if Clidd is scum?

It's White Flag mechanics right now, so this question feels off.


Phoenix, Arizona

[Hectic]

Cat Scratch Fever and Pink Ball NOOOOoOOOoooooOOoooOOoooOOOOoo



I don't think I posted even once in the last day phase lol. I have some catching up to do.

[Hectic]

VOTE: Uncrowned

By the way, CSF indicates that Sky is scum too, so Chemist/Sky is the most likely solution to this game.

??

ROOROO MY ELECTROACOUSTIC PIECE WAS ACCEPTED INTO AN ACADEMIC FESTIVAL

wow

well gg i guess

it was me/chem. ive been super busy so i didnt have the chance to stop this

not trolling, you were right :c

Sky is indeed trolling btw

shhhh its okay you've been hammered we can tell them now

im not trolling i was reaction testing

These were all the posts Skygazer made in the last day phase.

Skygazer, why didn't you try and push Uncrowned at all while the Misty wagon was happening? You voted him and left it at that for the day phase.

[Hectic]

Yo aaron explain your thoughts on me

I believe one of Rooroo/Sky is scum but more likely Roo. Sky actually has a trajectory on my slot that is believable unlike roo which just seems half assed af

What's believable about Sky's trajectory? Can you point to specifics and why?

[Hectic]

VOTE: Hectic

VOTE: Hectic

Rooroo beat me to it!

[Hectic]

Yeah, this still applies regarding rooroo. Though, I think Skygazer is slightly worse for how she played the last day phase.

VOTE: Skygazer

[Hectic]

I'm more active as scum than town, rooroo. I've never lurked as scum; let alone not posted for a whole day phase, so please don't use that as a reason to scumread me. I just didn't happen to get round to this game in the last day phase.

The Black Flag theory is a possibility; not a probability.

(A flag showing many jars of water. Some are leaking.)

[Hectic]

I was one of the main people to push TrueSoulEnergy and make him spew scum in the first place, Amrun. It's only towards the end I started having second thoughts because he looked TOO scummy. What changed your mind about this now, rather than on any of the previous days?

And sure, rooroo, but imo tactically lurking as scum for a whole day phase seems like a lame move lol. I've only played scum thrice, and it's never occured to me to try and win with stuff like that. AaronFF can back me up here.

(A red and blue striped flag. The blue is smudged in areas.)

[Hectic]

Sorry, I'm V/LA till Monday.

[Hectic]

I'm trying to cut down on the number of games I'm in. This is one of them, because I've lost most of my motivation here. Parting thoughts: I'd lynch between Uncrowned and Skygazer. rooroo is

probably

town, but could be the Black Flag.

Also, people shouldn't be locking Amrun as town. There's still a chance TrueSoulEnergy pushed his Black Flag and that's Amrun, he remained on her even when the wagon clearly wasn't picking up steam.

I'm unsure about AaronFF. Not going to call him town because then he'd have another successful pocket on me in his locker. Good luck.

[Hectic]