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[Micc]

To be clear: I don’t have refuting evidence of anything. I’m still a confused little vanilla Townie in what seems to be a powerful powerful world.

The backtrack about Aaron being roleblocked was this exchange
viewtopic.php?p=11621802#p11621802

Also there’s gunna be multiple predits of this post I didn’t read cause phone

[Iconeum]

I will ask one more time and then I'm going to tunnel you to death if you don't answer Ico. I might tunnel you to death anyway depending on how you answer.

WHY DID YOU IMMEDIATELY ASK AARON TO CLAIM INSTEAD OF WAITING TO GATHER MORE EVIDENCE OR TRY TO USE YOUR PRIVATE KNOWLEDGE TO SET UP A BETTER OUTCOME THAN TOWN COP DEAD?

i misread my result as 'rolecop' which i immediately associated with scum

[bji]

if you were anyone else i'd be screaming "scum" right now

That's lame. So you give only Ico free passes? Why?

[Iconeum]

the specifics of that are in the pm i got which i will not discuss until post game

[bji]

I will ask one more time and then I'm going to tunnel you to death if you don't answer Ico. I might tunnel you to death anyway depending on how you answer.

WHY DID YOU IMMEDIATELY ASK AARON TO CLAIM INSTEAD OF WAITING TO GATHER MORE EVIDENCE OR TRY TO USE YOUR PRIVATE KNOWLEDGE TO SET UP A BETTER OUTCOME THAN TOWN COP DEAD?

i misread my result as 'rolecop' which i immediately associated with scum

a) How do you misread something like that? Do you mean literally you read the wrong words, or figuratively that you assumed the words implied rolecop?

b) Even so why wouldn't you try to play some kind of cat and mouse game and get your suspected scum to implicate his partner instead of alerting him to your suspicion?

[Iconeum]

if you were anyone else i'd be screaming "scum" right now

That's lame. So you give only Ico free passes? Why?

do you realize i had no need to out him as anything? that would risk drawing potential protective roles on him. instead as scum i could keep vewwy vewwy quiet and nightkill him.

[Datisi]

ok bji's questions real quick:

Ah. I was SRing Looker for the entirety of Day 1, so... kinda?

Are you saying you are no longer SRing Looker? If so, what changed your mind?

i do SR Looker *independetly*
but i think their associates with bugs spew them town
and i'm going to trust the latter

Mist replaced into med mafia into a scum slot, and did pretty much nothing. Once he replaced in here and started Efforting(tm), i thought he could be Town here purely due to the contrast. That's why I'm saying, emps feels different here than he did in med mafia too (where he was town), but I don't have a good track record of that.

Datisi, at what point are you going to stop making arguments based on meta? Because I find them completely uninteresting. I do not know the meta you are talking about, I am not going to read games at your direction to try to acquire this meta information, so it's all white noise for me. And should be white noise really for everyone since no one should be convinced by arguments about meta.

probably never
they're not for you, they're for me
i might find it easier to sort a certain player through meta than through current gameplay
if i have an argument i want you to understand i would explain it

[Iconeum]

I will ask one more time and then I'm going to tunnel you to death if you don't answer Ico. I might tunnel you to death anyway depending on how you answer.

WHY DID YOU IMMEDIATELY ASK AARON TO CLAIM INSTEAD OF WAITING TO GATHER MORE EVIDENCE OR TRY TO USE YOUR PRIVATE KNOWLEDGE TO SET UP A BETTER OUTCOME THAN TOWN COP DEAD?

i misread my result as 'rolecop' which i immediately associated with scum

a) How do you misread something like that? Do you mean literally you read the wrong words, or figuratively that you assumed the words implied rolecop?

b) Even so why wouldn't you try to play some kind of cat and mouse game and get your suspected scum to implicate his partner instead of alerting him to your suspicion?

my dude i clearly said i'm not gonna go into this conversation yet

if you think i'm scum for what i did and how i did it, go ahead and push me

[Datisi]

if you were anyone else i'd be screaming "scum" right now

That's lame. So you give only Ico free passes? Why?

no
my point was
iconeum is trully horrible with mechanics
and him fucking up the name of his own role, TWICE, is something i would usually condemn on a different player
but i know town!ico is very very capable of that

[bji]

if you were anyone else i'd be screaming "scum" right now

That's lame. So you give only Ico free passes? Why?

do you realize i had no need to out him as anything? that would risk drawing potential protective roles on him. instead as scum i could keep vewwy vewwy quiet and nightkill him.

Unless you know scum has strongman in which case why care about protective roles?

[Micc]

Surely icon’s just scum right?
This has been an abomination of a claim

[Iconeum]

b) Even so why wouldn't you try to play some kind of cat and mouse game and get your suspected scum to implicate his partner instead of alerting him to your suspicion?

this may seem strange to you, but that's exactly what i thought i was doing

[Datisi]

town!icon is very capable of fucking a claim up like this
like
extremely capable lmao

[Iconeum]

Surely icon’s just scum right?
This has been an abomination of a claim

yeah must be

i just completely wrecked my partner on D1

and then forced the cop to out so there could be a protective on him during the night, without me trying to lynch him after his actual claim

sounds like what scum would do?

[Micc]

town!icon is very capable of fucking a claim up like this
like
extremely capable lmao

Can you point me to some reading material for tomorrow?

There’s bing bad at mechanics... and then there’s this claim. Two very different levels.

[Iconeum]

ico/datisi/menal/bji/looker town

i don't think that list is far from the truth this game

[Datisi]

Does forgetting scum can no kill (both as town AND as scum) count? that's the only thing i can think of off the top of my head

[Iconeum]

town!icon is very capable of fucking a claim up like this
like
extremely capable lmao

Can you point me to some reading material for tomorrow?

There’s bing bad at mechanics... and then there’s this claim. Two very different levels.

can you explain what is scum!indicative about my claim?

i've only used the wrong names, i've been clear about my actions

[Iconeum]

ico/datisi/menal/bji/looker town

i don't think that list is far from the truth this game

add sky to this list

[Iconeum]

slaxx/micc/bob is the lynchpool imo (not particularly this order)

[Datisi]

ok lemme just recap because my tired brain is still having a hard time

icon is claiming a town combined tracker/follower

n1 aaron - role investigative action used on emps
n2 ??? - blocking action used on menalque

and i was thinking icon is a gunsmith lmfao

[Micc]

Surely icon’s just scum right?
This has been an abomination of a claim

yeah must be

i just completely wrecked my partner on D1

and then forced the cop to out so there could be a protective on him during the night, without me trying to lynch him after his actual claim

sounds like what scum would do?

I’m sorry icon, but look at this claim:

Spoiler:

the roleblocker didn't target you

If you have that as fact, then slaxx is lying yeah? And if you don’t then either quit saying stuff like this or full claim so we can help you with the mechanics.

Like I’ve got you as Town, and so does everybody else, but I don’t think we can afford another mechanical mistake. You dying in a spot where we can’t accurately pick up your crumbs is a mistake.

I'm a combined tracker/watcher.

I saw aaron perform a role investigative action on N1 on emps.

I saw a player (that is not slaxx) perform a roleblocking type of action on N2 on a player (that is not slaxx)

follower/watcher*

so yeah.

all of follower/watcher + roleblocker+rolestopper+cop and we don't even have all claims yet

i get to do both at once

i've claimed it all folks

i saw aaron perform his action on N1, on emps

i saw a player that is not slaxx perform a blocking action on a player that is not slaxx (and obviously not myself) on N2

the only thing that is unsure here is what kind of blocking action

are you a comibed follower/watcher or a combined follower/tracker then???

follower/tracker

That’s tracker/watcher with follower/watcher results > follower/watcher > tracker/follower > still doesn’t add up with Aaron’s no result.

You haven’t been clear enough about your actions because I still don’t know what the are. Perhaps start from the beginning.

[Iconeum]

menal has the Obvious bad asso's, but i don't scumread him based off of this day actually

i think he had townie interactions with datisi

[Iconeum]

n1 aaron - role investigative action used on empsn2 ??? - blocking action used on menalque

this is correct

[Datisi]

he never had follower/watcher results tho
those are follower/tracker