Mini 2123: Greatest Idea IX - Game Over

Micc · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:50 am

Votecount 1.04

Non lmh (5) -

SirCakez, TrueSoulEnergy, TemporalLich, Cat Scratch Fever, Untrod Tripod

TemporalLich (2) -

Kerset, Non lmh

TrueSoulEnergy (1) -

Sujimichi

SirCakez (1) -

GlowingOvineChimes

GlowingOvineChimes (1) -

BBmolla

Not Voting (3) -

Titus, EspressoPatronum, Yshtola Rhul

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-03-21 02:15:00).

GlowingOvineChimes · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:20 pm

In post 224, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 220, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:If he were scum, he could very well lie.
This is true. However, if she were Town she could also lie. I was wanting you to tell me your thoughts on why you think that she
would
lie. What benefit does it give her?

What do you hope to glean from this line of questioning?

Titus · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:45 pm

VOTE: Kerset

VC gut

Sujimichi · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:38 pm

In post 226, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 224, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 220, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:If he were scum, he could very well lie.
This is true. However, if she were Town she could also lie. I was wanting you to tell me your thoughts on why you think that she
would
lie. What benefit does it give her?
What do you hope to glean from this line of questioning?

Your intent behind supporting EspressoPatronum's thoughts with regard to the probability of this occurring, and the genuineness of your thought process as to why Yshtola Rhul would lie.

I will note that you have attempted to dodge my question by asking a question of your own. Would you please answer?

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:39 pm

In post 227, Titus wrote:VOTE: Kerset

VC gut

What’s your thoughts on Non again?

Titus · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:50 pm

In post 229, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 227, Titus wrote:VOTE: Kerset

VC gut
What’s your thoughts on Non again?

Either obvscum with 1-2 busses or town bc lack of counterwagon

ISO · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:59 pm

I'm willing to bet Nom is scum because of the opportunistic vote, presumably Nom knew voting me would force a claim out of me or get me quickhammered (thankfully the latter didn't happen)

GlowingOvineChimes · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:51 pm

In post 228, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 226, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 224, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 220, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:If he were scum, he could very well lie.
This is true. However, if she were Town she could also lie. I was wanting you to tell me your thoughts on why you think that she
would
lie. What benefit does it give her?
What do you hope to glean from this line of questioning?
Your intent behind supporting EspressoPatronum's thoughts with regard to the probability of this occurring, and the genuineness of your thought process as to why Yshtola Rhul would lie.

I will note that you have attempted to dodge my question by asking a question of your own. Would you please answer?

If I were scum, what better lie to give than "all my roles were town"? If all your roles are town then there is no way to be scum. It could be as simple as that

Non lmh · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:18 pm

UNVOTE: temporallich

Non lmh · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 pm

okay, I'm just going to claim
I'm jk compulsive hider

Non lmh · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:33 pm

VOTE: ishtolarhul
math

Kerset · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:34 am

In post 234, Non lmh wrote:okay, I'm just going to claim
I'm jk compulsive hider

So you could prevent nightkill with your hide ability but instead you insist to announce it? What is the point of revealing that you are immortal during night? The whole advantage of your power is that scum might waste kill on you.

Kerset · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:41 am

In post 171, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 168, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 167, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 165, TemporalLich wrote:Wild card can be town or benign 3P

But I think Nom is scum anyway based on votes
If Non Imh really used the wild card for alignment, his alignment would've always been town, not randomized.
... that's not how the wild card works
You can just ask Micc. He has clarified this in a past game.

I highly doubt Non actually used wild card as his alignment without knowing how it works. He's scum.

In post 172, Kerset wrote:He claims that he got akin from a new card. Is it incorrect?

In post 212, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 204, Kerset wrote:Cat Scratch are you trying to fool us?
What?

still unanswered

Kerset · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:54 am

In post 228, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 226, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 224, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 220, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:If he were scum, he could very well lie.
This is true. However, if she were Town she could also lie. I was wanting you to tell me your thoughts on why you think that she
would
lie. What benefit does it give her?
What do you hope to glean from this line of questioning?
Your intent behind supporting EspressoPatronum's thoughts with regard to the probability of this occurring, and the genuineness of your thought process as to why Yshtola Rhul would lie.

I will note that you have attempted to dodge my question by asking a question of your own. Would you please answer?

LoL You could say that GOC was trying to check "genuineness of Y'shtola thought process". He asked what is the point of your question because its stupid Suji.

Sujimichi · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:18 am

In post 238, Kerset wrote:LoL You could say that GOC was trying to check "genuineness of Y'shtola thought process". He asked what is the point of your question because its stupid Suji.

One could say that, but she did not. Sometimes how someone arrives at their answer is just as important, if not more so, than the answer itself. Why did you feel the need to interject here?

Sujimichi · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:19 am

VOTE: GlowingOvineChimes

Kerset · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:26 am

In post 239, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 238, Kerset wrote:LoL You could say that GOC was trying to check "genuineness of Y'shtola thought process". He asked what is the point of your question because its stupid Suji.
One could say that, but she did not. Sometimes how someone arrives at their answer is just as important, if not more so, than the answer itself. Why did you feel the need to interject here?

It is bad for everyone, if you generate scumreads in incorrect way and i feel that this was the case here.

Sujimichi · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:42 am

I find it interesting that you assumed the reasoning behind GlowingOvineChime's question without it being stated either prior to my response or following my response whilst simultaneously giving an answer for her that was not given. You are projecting your own thoughts, not hers (though she is free to state this was her intent if so), and I do not know if I find your explanation of concern for the Town's overall wellbeing as a viable explanation.

What is the "correct" way to ascertain alignment?

ISO · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:48 am

Suji = scum trying to fire up a counterwagon?
I don't buy non imh's claim it came out in a sketchy as fuck manner.

ISO · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:50 am

I have no read on too many players rn
Titus is not inspiring confidence

Sujimichi · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:52 am

In post 243, SirCakez wrote:I don't buy non imh's claim it came out in a sketchy as fuck manner.

How so? It is fairly apparent that he has been wanting to claim his role, for whatever reason, for a while.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:30 am

In post 234, Non lmh wrote:okay, I'm just going to claim
I'm jk compulsive hider

********
VOTE: Nom Imh

L-1

********

You claimed wild card alignment, meaning one of JK/compulsive hider was assigned as your new alignment (and you got to keep its ability).

Since you did not claim weak JK, that leaves 3 options for your JK draw: Town JK, maf JK, WW JK. 2/3 chances you drew scum on the JK draw.

Compulsive hider is a town and WW option. 50/50 chance you drew scum there, too.

Aside from the mechanical reason for voting you, your ISO contains very little substance regarding your thought process, and your votes on TL and Yshtola suggest that you're looking to push through easy wagons.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:32 am

In post 243, SirCakez wrote:Suji = scum trying to fire up a counterwagon?
I don't buy non imh's claim it came out in a sketchy as fuck manner.

Do you disbelieve the truth of the claim or the alignment of the roles?

Titus · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:34 am

VOTE: Nom

I hate day 1

SirCakez is town probably.

EspressoPatronum · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:37 am

I would also like to add that Nom should have known to do a complete claim in light of the Wild Card alignment draw. For example: "I drew town compulsive hider after the wild card, and I have the Werewolf JK for an ability." Leaving it vague protects Nom from getting counterclaimed bcz we can't tell what cards Nom used.