BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Xtoxm]

that was some speedy upick building
good effort boon

[Xtoxm]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

[Xtoxm]

i only sent in one pick, and it was from a time i was scum

[Xtoxm]

from the vengeful ghost game?
i skimmed that one
did you guys ever figure out who all was in that hydra

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Lets bury this awkward entrance (also lol @ JJH for saying entrances arent AI)

idk man i didnt feel awkward

if your neg util it should prob be claimed btw, the softing is no bueno

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: venus

its been 24h
disinterest from this slot is >rand to be scum

[Xtoxm]

Little hint: Cops, youre pretty much completely useless this game, so just chill and dont feel pressured to carry the weight of the world.

None of that atlas shit

would whatever you are also affect modifiers like loyal/disloyal/weak?

[Xtoxm]

i wouldnt say by mechanical necessity it has to be town
claiming it seems such low value for scum that i tr it fairly solidly
leash to miller claim and one other, if the virus escapes quarantine thats still information so its so its not

entirely

awful

[Xtoxm]

is there anything in your role description that suggests it may be desired for you to infect specific roles/players, or is it just an indiscriminate compulsive millerizer?

[Xtoxm]

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

Upicks are inherently non random.

incorrect; standard procedure is to randomize align before making roles

@Kakeguri: it is strongly my belief that alignment is not randomised prior to role creation, and that someone who wanted to be scum could influence role allocation by picking scum only roles for the Booneytoonz list, or quotes from players from games where they were scum, etc.

Your strong belief is wrong. Undivulged non-randomness is bastard. Alignment is assumed to be randomised.

Upicks are inherently non random.

UPick ROLES are inherently non-random, but this does not include alignment

What happens if someone picks Traitor, Framer, SK as their picks? How can they possibly end up town?

with a little thought above level 1. sk could be vig, etc.
boon certainly got creative my my pick
i didnt get what i was "aiming" for

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

by which you mean vote singular since i only made one real vote
we have enough history that you should know excessive mech is my M.O., so scumreading me for it isnt a good look for you

[Xtoxm]

Fyi Xtoxm, my best friend just died, so I’m way too numb to be really into to mafia rn. I will try my best regardless.

~Mars

acknowledged, i will drop that line

[Xtoxm]

is there anything in your role description that suggests it may be desired for you to infect specific roles/players, or is it just an indiscriminate compulsive millerizer?

I also think it might be a spin on the sticky fruit vendor BT role with the "pass it along" aspect. Also, does the effect last for the entire game or just the night they catch the virus.

i have a first guess for who you are :3
low confidence low, need more content

[Xtoxm]

low confidence tho**

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

by which you mean vote singular since i only made one real vote
we have enough history that you should know excessive mech is my M.O., so scumreading me for it isnt a good look for you

Why should I know this? In what games have we played were you focusing excessively on mech? No, didn’t you vote KK beforehand?

because we played together a lot?
Starcraft 1.
no deadlines.
are the most obvious examples that come to mind

KK vote was an rvs sheep of nom

[Xtoxm]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

why is it scum indicitive?

[Xtoxm]

you know what's weird is when I read this game I feel like I have too many townreads but when I look at any individual slot I'm not actually sure how hard I'm willing to commit to people being town, weird feeling about this game rn

you know i have the opposite feeling actually i have a dearth of townreads in this game

[Xtoxm]

Ah, my open gloating was too obvious.
Yes i was in Binary Star.
I was the one who did almost all the posts.
It's okay, back when we were talking about VG on disc a while ago I was

this

close to telling you!
And honestly I felt like I was so obvious, amazing how a little capitalization with identical tone throws people off.

[Xtoxm]

Also I am going to say I am a fan of your new kawaiiii avi

-K

thanksies :3
it was inspired by your discussion of cats at the start of the game so i picked a cat(girl) avi

[Xtoxm]

you got upset that i scumread you for being super scummy and exclusively pushing town for the entire game
it just was me and varsoon
signing was uh..not reliable. but he didnt post after d1

[Xtoxm]

i dont remeber tbh, you and conspire had cats pic avis and there was discussion of cats at some point.

[Xtoxm]

one head only which was not you
congrats on speedlynching town

[Xtoxm]

do you have an identity read on BTE yet?
if im right then he's in line with scum meta but im not nearly confident enough to out that read yet

[Xtoxm]

I had forgotten how much I hate flipless games until that game

i had hoped it would be less vanilla.
irl i play a lot of flipless games but we have a lot more info roles to compensate
that game kinda had nothing

[Xtoxm]

Thank you :3

That was the highlight of the game

-K

briefly having you at 6 votes on the final night was the highlight of the game :3

[Xtoxm]

im lowkey still mad you dodged that cus your slot just

deserved

to be BOP'd by that point
but eh i won

[Xtoxm]

if you're scum and just baited me into this irrelevant convo that im about to get wagoned for then good work <3

[Xtoxm]

how likely I am to scumread you off playstyle and tone

on a scale from arfoire to noire
how likely is it?

[Xtoxm]

Feel free to ask some questions while I’m gone.

what is your current today-lynch pool?

[Xtoxm]

there was ep1 of boon wars where i was town and you tr me mostly.
you did lynch me in ep3 so give yourself a little credit :p
i cant think of other games you were town.
at least, not on this account

[Xtoxm]

lets see what mine is

VG - misread you as scum
ep1 - sortaaa tr you but not assertively (partial credit)
anime large - tr you
anime mini - correct sr you
TM - correctly sr you c:

mostly decent
man i scummed a lot against you lol

[Xtoxm]

You and Varsoon were Binary Star?!
Was I the head you scumread?

i sr you as an entity, all 5 of you, for the group conclusions you were coming to and pushes you made.
it wasnt any one head at all really.

[Xtoxm]

lets see what mine is

VG - misread you as scum
ep1 - sortaaa tr you but not assertively (partial credit)
anime large - tr you
anime mini - correct sr you
TM - correctly sr you c:

mostly decent
man i scummed a lot against you lol

oh, and CB.
you were not a tr but i dont recall actually pushing you at all

[Xtoxm]

qua

is this a typo or?

[Xtoxm]

FL claimed a guilty on us from the dead thread and had Yume claim it in the main thread, you actually believed it, no?

no.
i knew he was full of shit.
i just sr you anyway.

[Xtoxm]

oh yeah auro.
i think we were literally in that game together when you PMed asking to play together
i was thinking like
i have some good news for you :3
but you know, ongoing games rule.

so we actually did get to play <3

[Xtoxm]

is this a typo or?

No?

Also what was CB again?

-K

what does qua mean
corporate boontrigue (asuka)

[Xtoxm]

so auro given this new revelation, how confident do you feel about your ability to read me?
i personally have no confidence in reading you
and also have the idea that your scumrange is huge
so uh. prepare to be null for a long time
(PS, i also sr you in TM)

[Xtoxm]

shit sorry did i just out a secret alt

[Xtoxm]

did you know who jesus L was btw i always wondered that

[Xtoxm]

no i was on main in that one.

[Xtoxm]

I guess if I was less pretentious I could just rewrite "qua" as "as" but it has a slightly different connotation I think

-K

i prefer auro's explanation

[Xtoxm]

i have titus outside my interest pool for the claim, and ive been expecting boon to make a town sided renegade at some point so combined with how she claimed i think it fits.
lemme check the others.

[Xtoxm]

i have V+M in my lynch pool but im not in a position to sell you on it really
cant offer anything on the others no.

i dont think qualifies for the pic but id still like one :3

[Xtoxm]

on the topic

@titus

i was wondering does anything happen when you gave out all your things?

[Xtoxm]

I wouldn't say I scumread Titus, but I don't think I liked any of these posts

a lot of them look like fluffposts which in my experience she does universally (ie CB)

[Xtoxm]

How could you sr me in TM?? I thought I was like super obviously town. Like sure I "effort" as scum too but c'mon.

you felt excessively LAMIST and i didnt like what you were pushing
i was on a you/dann team for a long time
i caught on like at the veryyy end and was like ok yeah gobbles is prob scum after all
but yeah..

[Xtoxm]

I mean I have no read of Nancy yet, now is the time to indicate what struck you one way or the other

-K

its just that one post where she pushed me over my mech talk
when im historically a mech driven player and she should know that
particularly after sc1 that i spent most of the game mech talking

only need one valid reason for a sr.

[Xtoxm]

my not-d1 pool:
Titus
Davesaz
Krazy Katz
Auro
nomnomnom
Jjh927
Chronos

not group scum:
Vecna - however dave mentioned the virus sounds like a 3p win con and boon does like to create new 3p roles so if we think this is possible he should probably be lynched today i guess

leaving a d1-poe:
Venus and Mars
The Fonz
Chkflip
Conspire
Kakeguri Addicts
George Bailey
BooneyToonzExpert

meh

[Xtoxm]

i did like their very early posts
but they seemed to have dropped off super hard since then

[Xtoxm]

i missed mechanic from the list didnt i
they are in poe

[Xtoxm]

also with nancy
she has such a terrible record of reading me
so coming in here with an insta sr on me is super underwhelming
i have very little time for people that fail to learn from past experiences of being wrong abt me

[Xtoxm]

town reaction then should be to acknowledge read difficulty and bias correct the read to null

[Xtoxm]

i have a tell for jjh that has thus far always been correct

(dont worry about sample size)

as time approaches infinity, if he doesnt trigger it i'll be more confident hes town
he has yet to do the tell
otherwise i think his posting is fine

[Xtoxm]

Ah, my open gloating was too obvious.
Yes i was in Binary Star.
I was the one who did almost all the posts.
It's okay, back when we were talking about VG on disc a while ago I was

this

close to telling you!
And honestly I felt like I was so obvious, amazing how a little capitalization with identical tone throws people off.

What? Persi was not in that?

nope
it was mildly pleasing that you guys were wrong on our identities all game after i unmasked y'all

[Xtoxm]

if you think you were mech cleared then you dont understand mechanics

[Xtoxm]

Hey I openly crumbed Crown of Misery, without that (and the fact I was in a hydra with Nancy) I'm doubtful you would've uncovered me from posts alone

probably yeah since i hadnt really seen much of you before
that was a nice hint

[Xtoxm]

i wanna see how nancy reacts to any of my spam tonight

[Xtoxm]

did you know who jesus L was btw i always wondered that

Nero?

i did think that that but im pretty sure we guess that and he categorically denied it and also said if we got it right he'd out
but maybe my memory is inventing things

[Xtoxm]

this was part of why i sr you in tm auro
all the fake actions
fake hammers
so triggering

[Xtoxm]

gobble did react poorly but that was more of a miscalculation on his part
scum that's paying attention and reading the room right would be able to abuse it

[Xtoxm]

The correct response would be to call out the fakehammer, Gobble knew it was fake and decided to try and look towny
Calling out the fakehammer would be NAI at best.

in my tm game i fake acted like i had more votes on me than i did and put out a little AtE and it worked in my advantage

[Xtoxm]

Oh I misread you in TM too, I thought you were town for white-knighting us

i specifically set to make a me/ari team a believable solve for all the other players and it worked a treat :p

[Xtoxm]

that vc is beautiful

[Xtoxm]

mariar should be one of the KA heads
not sure on other

[Xtoxm]

Yumeko can I guess your main?

ask forgiveness, not permission
rookie mistake

[Xtoxm]

actually with that and his recent dave commentry he is out of my d1 poe now

[Xtoxm]

Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.

Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.

aww but if i get it right can you? :3
my guess was rcenigma

are there actually more than one head in your slot btw?

[Xtoxm]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

Does anyone else pronounce chkflip as Chick-Flip?

i prefer
C-H-K-flip

[Xtoxm]

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

[Xtoxm]

did you know who jesus L was btw i always wondered that

Nero?

What if I said I am Jesus, would that help you?

no >_<

[Xtoxm]

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

Then when

after d1 when we have some actual confirmed information

[Xtoxm]

When I say lock town, that basically translate to SOLID TOWN READ. And is meant as a personal read without any hard evidence.

okay.
for me its an extreme high confidence read and i'll be personally upset post game if i give one and it turns out wrong

[Xtoxm]

i'd like a response to #698 please and thank you

[Xtoxm]

nancy. i have never played with scum!you and the only game im even aware of that you were scum is MD where you snowed everyone
you are not some 2018-creature tier player that gets to be townread just by turning up
so yes im going to be suspicious, and likewise you will always be wrong if you use that as a metric to scumread me
the only time i blanket townread you for no apparent reason was LNT where i was scum
so you should be MORE suspicious of me if im doing that

[Xtoxm]

I believe EC is just EC, he's not an alt

-K

Agree it’s probably not EC but he does have alts: Mbaki.

I think anyone who played in LNT, should be able to accurately read me pretty quick, which is why I haven’t unvoted Xtoxm.

He’s made a few posts that sounded townie to me but considering he claims I don’t have a great history of correctly reading him, why in the actual fuck would he then put me in his lynchpool, based on that? He also initially voted us for not great reasons and didn’t automatically unvote us when I told him about my friend. He just continued to votepark us for reasons, he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

there was no time between you saying that and moving to pushing me
before i came to the thread
otherwise i likely would have

[Xtoxm]

he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

where did i do this?

[Xtoxm]

if you think you were mech cleared then you dont understand mechanics

There was a no kill and flipped town doc Dann healed us. I think maybe you’re not really the mech god you think you are?

there was not a flipped doc bc the game was FLIPLESS
refer back to #604

[Xtoxm]

i am glad you went back and responded to my posts though.
i thought you had chosen to ignore them at the time which was not a good feeling.

[Xtoxm]

nancy. i have never played with scum!you and the only game im even aware of that you were scum is MD where you snowed everyone

you are not some 2018-creature tier player that gets to be townread just by turning up

so yes im going to be suspicious, and likewise you will always be wrong if you use that as a metric to scumread me
the only time i blanket townread you for no apparent reason was LNT where i was scum
so you should be MORE suspicious of me if im doing that

Please explain the bolded.

you said you expected to be an instant townread for any one in LNT
for this to work you would have to have dramatic and easy to spot differences between your town and scum game
and necessarily i will have had to actually see your scum game
these things are not true. based on cold meta from a game i barely looked at you do actually have a scum game.

[Xtoxm]

he blatantly admitted were not scum indicative for me.

where did i do this?

Your argument for sr us seems to be based on my according to you, presumably terrible ability to read you correctly, yes? If I am incorrectly reading you here, than based on that logic, you should be tr us based on that. I don’t understand why you view my vote on you as necessarily scummy, as opposed to just wrong, based on you claiming I’m bad at reading you, which is why I’m not tr your vote on us.

being wrong doesnt make you town
if you are scum its just as easy for you to sr me and use your record as a defence
i am exhausted by being scumread by you every game
you need to seriously re-evaluate your approach to me, if you are town, bc its approaching the point of not being fun to play with
you came in here with an instant sr on me and im going to push back on that even if i didnt think you were possible scum

[Xtoxm]

i am responding to YOU here.
the original vote was on the basis of you looking like you were flaking, which did not occur and i conceded that point and your explanation for it.

[Xtoxm]

no, its a mixture of both.
i have you in poe. #323 pinged me and you have not towned your slot.

i am not one for effective methods.

[Xtoxm]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

[Xtoxm]

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

[Xtoxm]

the incorrect statement about my approach to mech IS scummy.
sr me in and of itself is not scummy.

thats not what i said.

[Xtoxm]

my point is, i will not allow your history of scumreading me as town to be an effective cover for you as scum.
which it is if dont take a stand at some point.
whether this is the game you pulled scum in or not.

[Xtoxm]

i am not upset about that hydra nancy dont worry about it.
when you asked me again i was busy and im not great with replyign to PMs
i would still be happy to hydra with you c:

i am not upset about that hydra

i was a little bit upset at the time bc i was quite excited to hydra with you but i got over it very quickly

Let’s make sure it happens then and this would probably put an end to the topic of this discussion - hopefully permanently.

Nothing has been more useful to my making reads than hydraing with someone.

great. look forward to it.

[Xtoxm]

Spoiler:

Subject: Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

Your scumread on Xtoxm seems to be based on him being opposed to lynching Keys, who you scumread, correct?

Incorrect. That has nothing to do with why I'm suspicious of Xtom. Xtom's read on Nauci, as well as his reads on otthers throughout the game, are suspect. His mechanical analysis isn't.

But since I’m mind melding with him on not wanting to lynch him today, for pretty much the exact same reasons. I obviously can’t see that as scummy, irrespective of Key’s actual alignment.

That's fine. I don't see why agreeing with him about something mechanical makes him a townread. Scum usually don't have trouble faking mechanical analysis. It's easy to talk about setup/mechanics as scum because it doesn't matter if you're informed/uninformed, the analysis is the same. When it comes to behaviors, scum run into trouble because they're already informed about alignments in ways that make it difficult for them to analyze behaviors without already knowing that the behaviors come from a particular alignment. Xtom has been avoiding behavioral analysis in favor of mechanical speculations.

And tbf, I was right on NM. I townread him, so like I said to Varsoon right at the beginning of the game - I’m always going to put a hard townread over anyone else’s opinion - even yours.

That's fine. You were right about NM, so I'm seeking your insight into Xtom. I'd like to know why he's town. I'm still waiting for you to explain the townread.

i dont see how you can play that game and others with me and not come to the conclusion that im a mech focused player

[Xtoxm]

im voting for you because you're voting for me and tunneling me
call it a bad reason if you want
i dont actually care which of the non towny slots die
d1 isnt that interesting to me

[Xtoxm]

Because it seemed to me that you might possibly be hiding behind mech in this game.

i was literally accused of that by scum in SC1
do you still think im hiding behind mech in this game? i feel like i have plenty of non mech content now?

[Xtoxm]

you. are. not. a. town. read.

[Xtoxm]

yes.
i also think im obvtown by my standards, but im also aware that people find me hard to read.

[Xtoxm]

Looking at this list, I think there must be at least one wrong in your not D1 lynch pool but damn if I have a freaking clue who that would be, because it would mean the entire scumteam is in your PoE and that seems unlikely?

i would be surprised if there wasnt.
my d1 reads dont tend to be that impressive, so im only sorting by not-today and could-today
trying to give detailed reads this early doesnt usually go well for me

[Xtoxm]

Oh okay
If he hates me that much it's fine

[Xtoxm]

I didnt either

[Xtoxm]

i dont wanna talk about it here
contact me after the game if you would like to discuss this further
lets focus on the people that are in this game

[Xtoxm]

i do as well
hes one of a comparatively large number of slots that really arent doing anything

[Xtoxm]

jjh did you decide where you wanna go yet

[Xtoxm]

spicy
i like it
VOTE: conspire

[Xtoxm]

heres your bone, nancy

[Xtoxm]

despite the join dates this is my first game with fonz
trying really hard not to scumread him for playing underwhelmingly compared to my expectations :X

[Xtoxm]

Hey, the Boon Shakespeare game was really unpleasant for me mentally, and I make zero apologies for stepping out of this one for the sake of my wellbeing when it looked like it was going that way again.

i can empathise with that, based on certain past experiences
this game has felt relatively pleasant to me
ive been able to say what i wanted without things tilting into toxicity (i think?)

[Xtoxm]

I don't honestly think that's a huge problem

if things did end up coming down to like 5 slots and theres still an invest but everyones a miller now, thats actually like incredibly bad for town

[Xtoxm]

the game continues after you die on n1 you know :<

[Xtoxm]

i have some very exciting news for you guys :3
maybe

[Xtoxm]

in my heart, yes

[Xtoxm]

"catchup"

If you are questioning something I said about RL, you're making a huge mistake.
When I say it's a catchup, it's a catchup. Not open to discussion, airquotes, or any other type of shade. Ever.

you've spent a lot of effort defending your RL status, i dont think anyones really accusing you of anything here; we believe that you're busy
any idea who you want to murderize today?

[Xtoxm]

Sore Feet,

Let's discuss this possible scenario. You are on the scum team with Vecna and Vecna's claimed role is truthful.

Would you have advised Vecna to out his role the way he did? Or would scum!you advise another strategic route?

Best Regards,
B. T. Expert III

i would have strongly advised against. as claimed, the recipients of the virus don't know what it does, only that they must pass it on. town figuring out that it millerizes is not a logical step, and a mislynch would almost certainly occur before town came to that conclusion. i would definitely want to keep it hidden on d1, perhaps have vecna claim something like - "i have a power but the mod wont tell me what it does" at most (if we wanted to go the route of claiming the role, as opposed to keeping it hidden entirely). on n1 we would probably want to infect 2 town that arent townread to ensure they remain mislynchable for the rest of the game, and maximize chances of a false guilty occuring. infecting a scum here is a possible choice, but seems low value, since a mislynch is required to occur before town realises whats going on. it may still be worth, something to think about as day progresses and into n1. on d2 i expect the infected would claim it, and that they must pass on it, at this point. perhaps they would be leashed to each other by town, or perhaps not - town doesnt know yet about the millering. correct deductions seem unlikely, chance of further spread is high. the decision would now need to be made whether to have vecna claim that he is the source of the virus, and either that he doesnt know what it does, or that it does nothing itself, but relates to him. perhaps he could try a benign 3p gambit, or perhaps he could claim that he unlocks abilities based on the number of people infected. staying hidden would confirm the source as a scum power, and be vulnerable rolecop-type invests, but still seems better than claiming it the way he has.

if he and i were scum together he has either not sought my advice, or sought and disregarded it, and i imagine that i'd be busing him on principle somewhere in the front half of the wagon since i dont like teammates that make dumb decisions and wont work with me.

-x

[Xtoxm]

so the symbiote should be used outside of the virus
otherwise vecna has virus and registers as scum
target has virus and registers as scum
-> both act as same alignment?
unless the symbiotic resolves before the virus

krazy is always one of the virus targets

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: unvote
i dont think rce believes he wins this duel so picking it is maybe towy

rce, is just nancys reaction and doubling down on your entrance that you sr, or is there more to it?
how of of the game have you read so hard?

[Xtoxm]

They dont seem to be resolving consistently within themselves, though.
I've pmed the mod to verify if what I received is all correct.
I have no idea what's going on though.

[Xtoxm]

what BEF is trying to do

Don't think BEF is listed in the player list. Who is this you're referring to?

BTE = BEF
sore feet = xtoxm + wooper
krazy katz = krazy + amrun
MS = auro + volxen
conspire = we think espeonage or taly? + ??

hope this helps

[Xtoxm]

Funny thing is, Boon CHOSE all the roles. That's 5 of 6 games of his...as scum. And he picked me to be scum again. I'll take it as a compliment I guess.

[Xtoxm]

Claiming scum is within my townrange, so use with caution.

[Xtoxm]

This game was fun apart from the guilty mechanics.

[Xtoxm]

what even mechanic caused endgame though?

3 sorcerers alive to 3 town. win con satisfied.

[Xtoxm]

great work auro <3
in spite of gammas play

[Xtoxm]

look at y'all fishing for town roles with picks
scum was the alignment to be here :3
i was genuinely surprised when i found out alignments were non random tho
i'd probably be pretty upset at the non-town mason if i were town here

[Xtoxm]

so it's a bastard game with 6 scum in 17 players

was basically 3-3 multiball. auro was part of booney toon, but he didnt know the other 2 sorcerers and could easily have NKed them. we just made good kills on town here.

[Xtoxm]

Thanks Xtoxm! I was feeling super guilty throughout. Boon clarified to me in my PT that you guys win along with me even when I ally with the Demon and Demon supporter, so I was happy

i could tell you could win with us by the way you acted in the scum PT so honestly i stopped thinking about my paranoia 3p stuff.
was great being scum with you.

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i mean, town did have a TON of stuff here
you guys got 2 guilties on scum
scum mason should not be a thing. mason should be on different town role probably. everything else i think is fine.

@chk you played really well grats on win

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If I explained I know 100% that xtoxm would get annoyed at me and I also guarantee that 0 other people in this game would find it convincing

I just lean town for one very dumb reason

-K

so what was this krazy?

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If all the scum win with third parties, it's not multiball folks

we needed auro alive cus he was part of booney toon.
if he died, we could not win with the other 2.

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I think we're gonna have to stop allowing mid game hydra head adds tbh

doing that this game is all part of my plan to make that happen TBH
duckling only made like 2 posts lol

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anyway despite everything i had a lot of fun in this game
and definitely expanded my scum range
thanks for modding boon

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I really wanted scum to say somewhere they think scum lose.

They got so close.

Had scum had said that, RCEnigma would have been conf town probably. Chronos almost said it, but he said “didn’t we already accept the fact we’re gonna lose?” And Auro saved the day by saying “no, we just blah blah”

i never felt like we were screwed
after seeing auro and titus on the team i thought we were gonna win

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i dont see anything chk did blacklist worthy fwiw and don't understand what his alignment has to do with anything

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@BooneyTunzExpert: Really nice play with the Piranha gambit!

Thanks, I just improvised it on the spot and I wasn't for sure if anyone would buy it.

I just hate it when people want to lynch town!me for mech or PoE reasons.

that was a really good play.
i was worried for a moment reading it that your fruit was going to kill auro

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This is easily the stupidest and least satisfying game since overkill 2 and the scum saying they would not have felt like this game would have been a waste of time if they'd been town feels really fake tbh.

i don't think i said anything like that, i think it would have been painful as town and i said the mason should not have been scum.
maybe even just remove the ability for conspire to turn from town and the game looks fine? town is pretty stacked.
i think the rest is fine.

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town also had a billion cops, and 3 guaranteed cop checks with the barbs
and a bunch of confirmable roles
and all of scum powers were like, nothing
the only good thing we had was my rolestop and it was locked behind me being put at L-1 which never happened

@VM thanks

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L-1 which never happened

and surviving*

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To be fair, I think it’s been established I’m very anti mech clears in general.

could you explain how all the items worked?

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i am not trying to defend what boon did here, im sorry if it came off that way.
if he loses modding experience for not disclosing the bastardness then it's justified.
i can see that town are upset, i've been there before and i understand how bad it feels.
i am just happy that i was scum this time so i dont have that.