mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alchemist21 · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:04 am

In post 774, Auro wrote:
In post 772, Alchemist21 wrote:It's not really true that there's nothing there in Fire's ISO. There's scumreads on you
Have you read the ISO right now to verify that?
If you haven't, read it again - do you stick by this?

Yes.

Auro · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:04 am

In post 772, Alchemist21 wrote:it's you trying to see other's in a way that I think is highly open to manipulation.

Which method of analyzing other players is not highly open to manipulation?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:04 am

Penguin that's another pagetop. Quit slacking.

Auro · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:05 am

Can you summarize Fire's scumread on me?

PenguinPower · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 am

In post 777, Alchemist21 wrote:Penguin that's another pagetop. Quit slacking.

I'm considered "essential" so I'm still at work...cut me some slack.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:07 am

In post 776, Auro wrote:
In post 772, Alchemist21 wrote:it's you trying to see other's in a way that I think is highly open to manipulation.
Which method of analyzing other players is not highly open to manipulation?

The kind that doesn't give scum the chance to form good-sounding answers that Town wants to hear.

p-edit: Damn, Penguin, really? Sorry to hear that. Hope you stay healthy out there.

Auro · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:07 am

In post 400, Firebringer wrote:i like ur brain, can i steal it?

VOTE: dannyboi

In post 430, Firebringer wrote:Spicey take:

Eddie Cane, Luna Fox, and Penguinpower are the scumteam.

In post 451, Firebringer wrote:i am weary of alchie alliance rn, or pine.....

i am fine with the other 2 right now.

Alchemist, do you believe these posts (and his voting Pine alongside me) are consistent with a belief that I'm scum?

Auro · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:08 am

In post 780, Alchemist21 wrote:The kind that doesn't give scum the chance to form good-sounding answers that Town wants to hear.

Sure, name a specific example of such a method.

Auro · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:09 am

In post 722, Auro wrote:

In post 723, Auro wrote:Same, I was tempted but hesitant to join and then Fire convinced me to.

I think if Alch was genuinely solving to arrive at my scumread, the quoted posts would be a primary reason - that I'm trying to lead town on a discussion that specifically leads

away from me

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Alchemist21 · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:10 am

In post 156, Firebringer wrote:
In post 155, Auro wrote:Noice, RCE town too.
Auro is scum!

In post 158, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: Auro

I got ur number auro

In post 159, Firebringer wrote:Auro can’t have a good read on rce yet because I don’t have one

He is lying and therefore scum

I have made the case now let’s get him

You might think he was joking but he kept the vote there for some time, then asked you specifically about Dann and me, his other 2 scumreads. He doesn't do that without some level of suspicion on you.

Auro · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

How much experience do you have with Fire?
Does the reasoning in his early "scumread" on me strike as concrete to you?

Do you believe town!Fire cares about where his vote is while he's playing the game?
Do you believe town in general would care much about where their vote is?

Comical · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:12 am

RCE is likely scum.

Auro · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:15 am

In post 786, Comical wrote:RCE is likely scum.

Even if so, trying to dismantle my 1v1 with Alch implies he's likely partners with him.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:16 am

In post 782, Auro wrote:
In post 780, Alchemist21 wrote:The kind that doesn't give scum the chance to form good-sounding answers that Town wants to hear.
Sure, name a specific example of such a method.

The kind RC uses. This is getting sidetracked away from the original point.

Auro · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:17 am

In post 788, Alchemist21 wrote:The kind RC uses. This is getting sidetracked away from the original point.

Specifically what?
Feel free to engage on the original point also, we can have space for more than one conversation at a time

Alchemist21 · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:19 am

In post 785, Auro wrote:How much experience do you have with Fire?
Does the reasoning in his early "scumread" on me strike as concrete to you?

Do you believe town!Fire cares about where his vote is while he's playing the game?
Do you believe town in general would care much about where their vote is?

He's somewhere in the list of Top 3 posters I've played the most games with.

Yes he cares; I've said earlier that Town Firebringer does try to solve the game. He suspected you less than Dann or me, and I think half of his vote/discussion with you was trying to solidify a read on you, but you were definitely in his suspect pool.

Auro · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:20 am

In post 790, Alchemist21 wrote:I've said earlier that Town Firebringer does try to solve the game.

This doesn't answer my question. My question was about whether Fire actually cares about vote placement, specifically in this instance of unvoting someone he changed his mind on while figuring out a different scumread.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:23 am

In post 789, Auro wrote:Specifically what?

I don't know how exactly he figures out who's scum, but once he has a suspect he says so and then aggressively pursues that lynch. Nobody can really steer him away from the wagon which cuts out the chance for scum interference.

There's an old article on the wiki by Albert B. Rampage discussing a similar thing, about focusing on scum and getting them lynched.

Auro · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:25 am

Well, I'm sorry that I don't personally follow "tunneling" as a method of scumhunting?

RCEnigma · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:25 am

In post 769, Auro wrote:You're really going to go for "this is a scum-driven wagon" etc logic for the Pine wagon?

Mathematically there is scum on the wagon. Outside of that I can't make assumptions. Could be two, could be three. Who knows.

RCEnigma · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:27 am

In post 770, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 768, RCEnigma wrote:Vote people off the island.

In some order of Dann, comical, auro.
why is the one person who is most responsible suspiciously off the list

I still don't have Eddie cane related opinions. Someone else will have to figure it out.

RCEnigma · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:28 am

In post 792, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 789, Auro wrote:Specifically what?
I don't know how exactly he figures out who's scum, but once he has a suspect he says so and then aggressively pursues that lynch. Nobody can really steer him away from the wagon which cuts out the chance for scum interference.

There's an old article on the wiki by Albert B. Rampage discussing a similar thing, about focusing on scum and getting them lynched.

Can corroborate I've read this article.

Auro · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:29 am

In post 794, RCEnigma wrote:Mathematically there is scum on the wagon. Outside of that I can't make assumptions. Could be two, could be three. Who knows.

Always love math discussions

clidd
Firebringer
PenguinPower
Eddie Cane
OkaPoka
Pine
Luna Fox

I've taken the first 7 names on the playerlist.
Mathematically, is there scum in these 7 names?
What's the difference between this, and Pine's lynch wagon?

Alchemist21 · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:29 am

In post 791, Auro wrote:
In post 790, Alchemist21 wrote:I've said earlier that Town Firebringer does try to solve the game.
This doesn't answer my question. My question was about whether Fire actually cares about vote placement, specifically in this instance of unvoting someone he changed his mind on while figuring out a different scumread.

I don't know tbh. I don't pay as much attention to unvotes in games.

Alchemist21 · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:29 am

In post 793, Auro wrote:Well, I'm sorry that I don't personally follow "tunneling" as a method of scumhunting?

Fair enough. I am a known tunneler.