Nomic: The Constitution Game - Game Over

Allomancer · Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:09 am

VOTE: Yea 301
VOTE: Nay 302

Allomancer · Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:10 am

303: Someone is automatically assumed to be voting for their own proposal unless they vote otherwise.

Allomancer · Post Post #18 (isolation #3) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:10 am

VOTE: Yea 303

Allomancer · Post Post #35 (isolation #4) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:32 am

VOTE: Nay 304
VOTE: Yea 305

Allomancer · Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:33 am

Also, what I've done to limit the workload in the Nomics I've modded is to have the current ruleset on a wiki page and allow all players to keep it up to date.

Allomancer · Post Post #43 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:04 am

P306: There is a currency called Reputation. A player earns 5 Reputation when a proposal suggested by them passes. This proposal is retroactive from the beginning of the game.

Allomancer · Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:19 am

VOTE: Nay 307

Allomancer · Post Post #55 (isolation #8) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:46 pm

VOTE: Yea 308
VOTE: Yea 309
VOTE: Nay 310
VOTE: Nay 311
I am opposed to win conditions in Nomic - I think part of the fun is just going as long as you can and building the best ruleset.

Allomancer · Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:09 pm

VOTE: YEA 312

Allomancer · Post Post #64 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:42 am

VOTE: Nay 313

Allomancer · Post Post #67 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:03 am

VOTE: Nay 314
Plurality is the worst voting system.

Allomancer · Post Post #69 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:00 am

VOTE: Yea 315

Allomancer · Post Post #70 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:03 am

Proposal 316: A player earns 3 Reputation if they convince someone else to sign up for the game. The referred must specify the referrer's name when signing up and each referred can only specify one referrer.

Allomancer · Post Post #79 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:13 am

VOTE: Yea 317

Allomancer · Post Post #83 (isolation #15) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:11 am

VOTE: Yea 318
VOTE: Nay 319

Allomancer · Post Post #87 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:49 am

VOTE: Nay 319

Allomancer · Post Post #89 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:20 am

VOTE: Yea 320

Allomancer · Post Post #96 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:57 am

Proposal 321: A player may, at any time, transfer some or all of their Reputation to another player by announcing such transfer in bold in the thread.

Allomancer · Post Post #106 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:01 pm

VOTE: Yea 322

Allomancer · Post Post #111 (isolation #20) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:06 pm

VOTE: Yea 323
VOTE: Nay 324

Allomancer · Post Post #116 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:13 am

VOTE: Nay 325

Allomancer · Post Post #119 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:39 am

Proposal 326: A proposal that has been pending for 72 hours, and has not received enough yea votes to pass, automatically fails.

Allomancer · Post Post #124 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 am

VOTE: Nay 327
VOTE: Nay 328

We can always amend the original rule and only change the necessary portion. I don't see a point in added this bloat to our ruleset.

Allomancer · Post Post #127 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:00 am

Proposal 329: A player may duel another player by announcing their intention do so in in bold in the thread. Only one duel may take place at a time. All players not in the duel have one vote to vote for a winner of duel, which they do by posting a vote tag with the dueler's name. The dueler with the majority of votes wins the duel. If there is a tie when all active players have voted, the defender wins the duel. The loser of the duel loses 10 Reputation and the winner gains 10 Reputation.

Allomancer · Post Post #130 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 am

Alright, since I'm not strongly opposed, I'll be bribed.
VOTE: Yea 327
VOTE: Yea 328

Allomancer · Post Post #132 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 am

Proposal 331: 320 is amended to read:
Players may make motions in addition to proposals. Unlike proposals, which are permanent in nature, all motions are temporary and must cease to be in effect after a certain time. No motion may last longer than 1 week after passing. Motions are proposed, voted upon, passed, and failed in a similar manner as proposals. Numbering shall begin at M001 and increase with each proposed motion.

VOTE: Yea 327

Allomancer · Post Post #134 (isolation #27) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 am

VOTE: Yea 330

Allomancer · Post Post #136 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:44 am

VOTE: Yea 332

Allomancer · Post Post #143 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:44 am

We can always have that debate when we go to make new rules. This just clarifies the existing rules.

Allomancer · Post Post #167 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 153, Ircher wrote:I'm not sure I can count that as a valid referral. Can I have opinions from other players on the matter?

The rule says "specify the referrer's name", which I think is pretty clear.

Allomancer · Post Post #171 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:10 am

VOTE: Nay 334
VOTE: Nay M001
VOTE: Nay 335
VOTE: Yea 336

Allomancer · Post Post #177 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:33 am

VOTE: Yea 336

Allomancer · Post Post #179 (isolation #33) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:30 am

In post 172, Ircher wrote:329, 330, 334, and M001 fails. 333 passes.

Allomancer · Post Post #181 (isolation #34) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:32 am

VOTE: Nay M002

Allomancer · Post Post #182 (isolation #35) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:36 am

If I reintroduce 329 with the option to decline a duel you're challenged to, would those of you who opposed it before vote for it? Could I do so now or would it count as "functionally equivalent" and I would have to wait 3 days?

Allomancer · Post Post #185 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:25 am

Proposal 337: A player may not voluntarily transfer an amount of Reputation that would cause their Reputation to become negative.

Proposal 338: When a player's Reputation becomes negative, that player becomes "dead". Notwithstanding all other rules governing number of votes, dead players have no vote. A dead player gains one Reputation every 24 hours. When a dead player's Reputation becomes zero or positive, that player ceases to be dead.

Allomancer · Post Post #190 (isolation #37) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:47 pm

VOTE: Yea 339

Allomancer · Post Post #194 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:36 pm

VOTE: Nay 340

Allomancer · Post Post #204 (isolation #39) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:04 pm

VOTE: Nay M003
VOTE: Nay 341
VOTE: Abstain 342

Allomancer · Post Post #212 (isolation #40) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:45 pm

VOTE: Nay 343

Allomancer · Post Post #216 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:14 am

VOTE: Nay M004
VOTE: Yea 344

Allomancer · Post Post #243 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:26 am

VOTE: Yea M006

Allomancer · Post Post #248 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:42 am

VOTE: Yea 352

Allomancer · Post Post #249 (isolation #44) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:45 am

353: A player may duel another player by announcing their intention do so in in bold in the thread. Starting a duel costs 5 coins. Only one duel may take place at a time. The player challenged may decline the duel within 24 hours, which costs 5 coins. All players not in the duel have one vote to vote for a winner of duel, which they do by posting a vote tag with the dueler's name. The dueler with the majority of votes wins the duel. If there is a tie when all active players have voted, the defender wins the duel. The loser of the duel loses 10 Reputation and the winner gains 10 Reputation.

Allomancer · Post Post #250 (isolation #45) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:48 am

354: A player newly joining the game gains 25 coins.

Allomancer · Post Post #255 (isolation #46) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:27 am

VOTE: Yea 348

Proposal 355: Players can make contracts between one another. Contracts must be followed by all signatories, but may not override the rules. Contracts shall provide the process for becoming a signatory, and can limit who may become a signatory. A player may not leave a contract except as provided for by the contract or by unanimous agreement of all signatories. Contracts may be amended or repealed as provided for by the contract or by unanimous agreement of all signatories.

Allomancer · Post Post #257 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:34 am

VOTE: Yea M007

Allomancer · Post Post #261 (isolation #48) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:33 pm

VOTE: Yea 356
VOTE: Nay 357
VOTE: Yea 358

Allomancer · Post Post #265 (isolation #49) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:47 am

VOTE: Yea 359

Allomancer · Post Post #267 (isolation #50) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:45 am

VOTE: Yea 360
VOTE: Yea 361
VOTE: Nay 362

Allomancer · Post Post #284 (isolation #51) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:01 am

VOTE: Nay 363
VOTE: Nay 364

Allomancer · Post Post #287 (isolation #52) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:15 am

VOTE: Yea M008

Allomancer · Post Post #291 (isolation #53) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:29 am

VOTE: Yea 365

Allomancer · Post Post #317 (isolation #54) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:16 pm

VOTE: logan5123 for president
VOTE: Ircher for duel

Allomancer · Post Post #320 (isolation #55) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:20 pm

Oops. VOTE: logan for duel

Allomancer · Post Post #353 (isolation #56) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:12 am

VOTE: Nay 367
VOTE: Yea 373
VOTE: Nay 374

Allomancer · Post Post #355 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:03 am

VOTE: Abstain 375

Allomancer · Post Post #358 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:06 pm

VOTE: Yea M009

Allomancer · Post Post #361 (isolation #59) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:08 am

VOTE: Yea 376

Allomancer · Post Post #366 (isolation #60) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:20 am

VOTE: Nay 277

Allomancer · Post Post #369 (isolation #61) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:48 am

VOTE: Nay 377

Allomancer · Post Post #401 (isolation #62) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:41 am

VOTE: Nay 378
VOTE: Yea 379
VOTE: Yea 381
VOTE: Yea 383
VOTE: Nay 384
VOTE: Nay 385

Allomancer · Post Post #406 (isolation #63) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:57 am

VOTE: Nay 386

Allomancer · Post Post #409 (isolation #64) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:07 am

VOTE: Nay 387

If you want to create a party, just use a contract.

Allomancer · Post Post #414 (isolation #65) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:01 am

VOTE: Nay 387

All the details this establishes could just be filled out by the contract itself.

Allomancer · Post Post #419 (isolation #66) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:29 pm

Accept Ircher's duel

Allomancer · Post Post #423 (isolation #67) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:05 am

VOTE: Nay 388

Allomancer · Post Post #432 (isolation #68) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:36 am

VOTE: Yea 389

Allomancer · Post Post #450 (isolation #69) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:08 am

VOTE: Nay 394

Allomancer · Post Post #459 (isolation #70) » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:32 pm

Yeah, contracts can be altered unanimously

Allomancer · Post Post #462 (isolation #71) » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:40 am

VOTE: Nay 395

This is how contracts work in the real world. If you want it to be amended easier, you could always add a provision to the contract allowing it to be amended by a supermajority.

Allomancer · Post Post #468 (isolation #72) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:55 am

VOTE: Yea 396

Allomancer · Post Post #473 (isolation #73) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:22 am

VOTE: Yea 397

Allomancer · Post Post #484 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:25 am

VOTE: Nay 400

Allomancer · Post Post #490 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:00 am

VOTE: Yea 401
VOTE: Yea 402

Allomancer · Post Post #496 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:46 pm

VOTE: Yea 403

Allomancer · Post Post #513 (isolation #77) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:35 am

VOTE: Yea 407
VOTE: logan

Allomancer · Post Post #521 (isolation #78) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:51 am

VOTE: Yea 408

Allomancer · Post Post #536 (isolation #79) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:25 am

VOTE: Nay 410 Abstaining with reservations doesn't make sense. Abstaining already signals you have reservations in both directions

Allomancer · Post Post #539 (isolation #80) » Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:35 pm

VOTE: Yea 411

Allomancer · Post Post #546 (isolation #81) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:37 am

VOTE: Yea with reservations 412
I'm not a huge fan of applying it retroactively, but I don't think it matters at this point.

Allomancer · Post Post #567 (isolation #82) » Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:05 pm

VOTE: Yea 415
VOTE: Nay 416
VOTE: Yea 417

Allomancer · Post Post #576 (isolation #83) » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:37 pm

VOTE: Yea 414

Allomancer · Post Post #579 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:56 pm

VOTE: Nay 418

Allomancer · Post Post #583 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:16 pm

VOTE: Yea 418

Allomancer · Post Post #596 (isolation #86) » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:57 am

Nominate: logan5123

Allomancer · Post Post #611 (isolation #87) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:37 am

VOTE: Nay 419
VOTE: Yea 420

Allomancer · Post Post #615 (isolation #88) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:04 am

VOTE: Yea 421
VOTE: Yea 422

Allomancer · Post Post #617 (isolation #89) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:06 am

423: Rules may have explanations, which follow the rule in square brackets. Explanations are not part of the rules, but they are a part of the text of the rules. [This means explanations can be amended and are shown in the first post, but don't have legal weight.]

Allomancer · Post Post #626 (isolation #90) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:49 am

VOTE: logan5123 for president
VOTE: Yea 424
VOTE: Yea 425

Allomancer · Post Post #637 (isolation #91) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:48 pm

VOTE: Nay 426

Allomancer · Post Post #642 (isolation #92) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:47 pm

This is what I love about Nomic. You write rules and then you realized how badly screwed up the interactions are.

Allomancer · Post Post #652 (isolation #93) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:47 am

VOTE: Nay 428

Allomancer · Post Post #658 (isolation #94) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:00 am

VOTE: Nay 429

Allomancer · Post Post #660 (isolation #95) » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:16 am

VOTE: Yea 430

Allomancer · Post Post #678 (isolation #96) » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:19 pm

VOTE: Nay 431
Contracts would be dumb if they couldn't be restricted to certain players.

Allomancer · Post Post #685 (isolation #97) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:39 am

VOTE: Yea 432

Allomancer · Post Post #689 (isolation #98) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:05 am

VOTE: Nay 434

Allomancer · Post Post #692 (isolation #99) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:29 am

Because it creates a culture of people trying to evade the rules. It encourages manipulating people so they don't see your rule-breaking, knowing you only have to do it for a week to get away with it.

Allomancer · Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:25 am

VOTE: Nay 436

Allomancer · Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:44 am

VOTE: Nay 437

Allomancer · Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:51 am

VOTE: Yea 439

Allomancer · Post Post #718 (isolation #103) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:08 pm

VOTE: Yea 440

Allomancer · Post Post #721 (isolation #104) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:18 pm

VOTE: Yea 441

Allomancer · Post Post #727 (isolation #105) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:13 am

VOTE: Nay M010

Allomancer · Post Post #732 (isolation #106) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:33 pm

VOTE: Yea 442
VOTE: Yea 443

Allomancer · Post Post #738 (isolation #107) » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:02 am

VOTE: Nay M011

Allomancer · Post Post #747 (isolation #108) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:25 am

VOTE: Nay 444

Allomancer · Post Post #756 (isolation #109) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:38 am

VOTE: Nay M012

Allomancer · Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:56 am

VOTE: Nay M013
VOTE: Nay 446

Allomancer · Post Post #770 (isolation #111) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:08 pm

VOTE: Nay M014

Allomancer · Post Post #795 (isolation #112) » Sat May 02, 2020 2:07 pm

VOTE: Allomancer for pres

Allomancer · Post Post #800 (isolation #113) » Sat May 02, 2020 3:28 pm

VOTE: Yea 450

Allomancer · Post Post #805 (isolation #114) » Sat May 02, 2020 4:46 pm

VOTE: Yea 450

Allomancer · Post Post #836 (isolation #115) » Mon May 04, 2020 8:11 am

VOTE: Yea 451
VOTE: Yea 452
VOTE: Nay M015
VOTE: Yea M019

Allomancer · Post Post #859 (isolation #116) » Wed May 06, 2020 8:32 am

VOTE: YEa 456

Allomancer · Post Post #890 (isolation #117) » Fri May 08, 2020 1:00 pm

/out.

Sorry guys, but I really haven't been dedicating much time to this game lately, in case you hadn't noticed. I came in here with a legislative agenda, but recently the laws became too complex for me to keep track of, so I just sort of coasted on by.