Twice Baked Wrestling: Brawl at the Bakery! {Game Over}

[Flubbernugget]

Yeeeeeah. I'm good parking my vote exactly where it is. Someone is excited to be scum.

looks like flavor posting to me

VOTE: kk

[Flubbernugget]

Yeeeeeah. I'm good parking my vote exactly where it is. Someone is excited to be scum.

looks like flavor posting to me

VOTE: kk

No, 100% not flavor revealing.

As in they're talking like a cracked out announcer

Like the ones that tend to be on wwe

[Flubbernugget]

Uhhh no I am wrong here

UNVOTE:

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: c&s

I am annoyed

[Flubbernugget]

Honestly, no. KK is all over the place with his thoughts and you aren't really saying much of anything.

What's all over the place to you? The whole protecting thing? I'm following their cena push well enough

[Flubbernugget]

*projecting

[Flubbernugget]

I’m Randy Orton. I must RKO (hammer) out of nowhere or I’ll die. I have a neighborhood with (Randy) Savage, assumingely we’re the Randy neighborhood.

I have a finisher I can use once. I can use what is called “The Punt”.

Very plausible

Vote: Flavour Leaf

Though honestly that's such a FL role I'd vote on it being to good to be true

[Flubbernugget]

I’m Randy Orton. I must RKO (hammer) out of nowhere or I’ll die. I have a neighborhood with (Randy) Savage, assumingely we’re the Randy neighborhood.

I have a finisher I can use once. I can use what is called “The Punt”.

you scum fuck im Randy Orton


VOTE: flavor leaf

Well shit now my gut wanting to vote flavor isn't wrong

VOTE: flavor

Thanks nips

[Flubbernugget]

You all can post now

No doing social weekend shit or you'll kill your grandma

[Flubbernugget]

why wouldnt you just lynch someone else and not let FL hammer to test his claim instead of wagoning him

I thought about this and re read his claim because of it and I now realize the claim is thoroughly bullshit

Flavor's gonna find a way to wriggle himself out of a wagon come EOD anyway

[Flubbernugget]

The real losers are the ones that read the sign up threads

You still fake claimed and brought out an unnecessary cc

[Flubbernugget]

Honestly, no. KK is all over the place with his thoughts and you aren't really saying much of anything.

What's all over the place to you? The whole protecting thing? I'm following their cena push well enough

No not really. Hes kinda rambling so i'm not following him. I don't see it at all. Maybe you can explain it to me then?

He's got a small handful of different reasons he's scumreading c&s. I guess that's kind of all over the place? But they dont contradict or go incoherent except for maybe the projection thing

[Flubbernugget]

Also, UNVOTE: reck, VOTE: Flubbernugget

Pretty much hate all 3 of his votes

Only the kk one was bad

[Flubbernugget]

I am also on the panzer is probabaly town train

[Flubbernugget]

Ok. do you want them to keep playing in the manner they currently are?

-JC

No

You should fix that

[Flubbernugget]

Also having the audacity to complain to the mod when they are the asshole has honestly moved this beyond something I'm willing to let go.

I'm pretty sure they complained about my RVS on them, so it's on me for not thinking through before making that joke

As for their anonymity - I'm here to play mafia, not meta simulator, so I will judge them for what they do, not for who they are. Sometimes people just want to play mafia without being haunted by their past

Do you have any reads?

[Flubbernugget]

KK do you have any thoughts on players other than C&S

Even when you're talking to other players it still feels like it's always about cs

[Flubbernugget]

so, people who aren't Wondertank and C&S: what is your take on the gamestate and what are your reads on people other than those two?

I think you and reck did townie things that one time

[Flubbernugget]

I have no internet and want to save mobile data for other games so see y’all tomorrow hopefully

priotizing other games over this one
not a good look mister turkey

IdrC
This game just started and it’s good to let things develop without me flapping around and causing a distraction

I would much rather you flap around and cause a distraction than some of the other people in this thread t h

[Flubbernugget]

Anyone that's said anything about their role so far is dumb

Claim your millers and whatnot and then shut up about it

[Flubbernugget]

Moar plz

[Flubbernugget]

Dont you really hate votes without reasons or something or am I remembering someone else

[Flubbernugget]

Three people call me scum in two pages but only one votes?

Hmmmm

[Flubbernugget]

Normally I'd think it's wagon resistance or something, but it's been stated in thread a few times that the game state needs to change and hesitation on wagoning me goes against that

[Flubbernugget]

I'm not sure what you mean

[Flubbernugget]

I asked mod if finishes acted like any other role and they do. So if we coordinate finishes we can kill 7 people a cycle and if people don’t die we know someone from that group of 3 with that assignment to finish did not do as they were told or were messed with in some way. This also frees up actual town power from potential interference so I think it’s net+ for town to coordinate finishes at least for one cycle. We can even target the hydra and other problem children. There’s probably at least 1 scum in it

I'm down for coordinating what's basically a vig shot

Cycle=dayphase?

[Flubbernugget]

Idk how the groupings work, but I think that's what fl was afraid of when he brought it up

W/o groupings it's closer to a second lynch which is probably super powerful for town?

[Flubbernugget]

Ok, I know this means little coming from me because I've openly said I want to policy lynch Cena and Savage, but the last 2 pages in which they are trying to coach everyone into vig teams and suddenly claimed Mason is probably the most brazenly scummy thing I've ever seen. Wild that I wanted to policy lynch scum, now I just want to regular lynch scum.

Policy aside, there's plenty of time to lynch c&s if their partner doesn't exist, don't you think?

[Flubbernugget]

There really is no reason to not do this plan. It forces scum to either abide by the plan and forfeit their night action or break it and then confirm themselves as scum within a group.

Scum 2 here.

How do you know that Scum can't use the finisher mechanic and their night action(this is common in a lot of these heavy mechanic games)?
Why wouldn't you acknowledge that town power roles could also be forfeiting their night action?
How would you differentiate between a town PR that doesn't forfeit their action vs a scum that doesn't?

Building scumteams from a single action makes you look less town

[Flubbernugget]

you and your friend are actively inhibiting the fun of other players and that's why you deserve me to be mean to you.

Ngl I'm more sympathetic to Panzer digging in their heels than the hydra

[Flubbernugget]

Panzer what’s your read on Kuribo and Flubber?

Kuribo isn't in this game.

Flubber I don't have a solid read on but BM said he was scummy.

Okay you're like the 6th player to call me scummy without reasoning.

Most of the reasoning on me is either unexplained or has some "this post was weak/caught for the wrong reason feeling". Earliest join date on this kind of reasoning is 2011. I'm pretty sure I hit some greybeard tell I'm not aware of and probably isn't relevant anymore.

[Flubbernugget]

I want to elaborate on the panzer vs c&s more (specifically wrt panzer). Pardon my brain being a scattered mess.

Right now even though I'm not fond of them not having very good reads, I dont think anyone really does at this point. I see the appeal of shouting down a shady town leader and why it can cause problems. But I still see where panzer is coming from more, especially with regards to the 3 replace outside. I kind of see his tunnel as the lesser of two evils between confronting/ignoring c&s. In spite of what would normally look like a scum tunnel my "fight the good fight" perspective has me leaning them towards town.

Though at this point I'd really like to see three outs on both of these slots ultimately.

[Flubbernugget]

Yes

That's why you two need to be taken out of the game.

[Flubbernugget]

You realize that the mod just asked the entire thread to stop asking for replace outs, right?

So you want the game to continue and the way you achieve that is by breaking the rule that the mod literally just warned the entire thread about?

Um, you need three outs to get killed as a game mechanic, right?

[Flubbernugget]

I want you two out as in vigged.

[Flubbernugget]

I want you two out as in vigged.

I mean they're called "finishes" and "outs" are usually "replace-outs" so that was a terrible way to write that sentence if that's actually what you meant.

Do you disbelieve my mason claim?

-JC

Let's say you're a Mason. Why do you want to be embarrassed by having your headassery get you all the way to endgame as conftown?

[Flubbernugget]

^^^ this is a really good catch.

[Flubbernugget]

You're seriously downplaying how big a detriment to town I think you are

As either alignment

[Flubbernugget]

Why do you want to be embarrassed by having your headassery get you all the way to endgame as conftown?

To be clear, my headassery that had you as town? In fact I think I'm the only person in this game that had you as town, basically?

Which of my reads do you disagree with specifically?

Yeah this game is really going to go places if you crash it but get one town read correct in doing so.

[Flubbernugget]

Okay how many of my other townreads do you disagree with?

I need to go through ISO's and put a reads list together (I think right now the more people that do something like this the better), which will have to be later today.

Just know that if our reads match exactly, I still want you vigged.

[Flubbernugget]

Just know that if our reads match exactly, I still want you vigged.

Okay thanks for contributing to your argument that I'm toxic when you
a) don't know my reads
b) are arguing my reads are bad anyway
c) want to kill me even if you agree with the reads you don't know

yeah I'm really fucking toxic here, huh flubber?

Are you projecting or do you just have a victim narrative that nobody likes you?

I never called you toxic.

[Flubbernugget]

Are you projecting or do you just have a victim narrative that nobody likes you?

I never called you toxic.

You just argued I made three people replace out when I made ZERO people replace out

Panzer is pushing a toxic bullshit lie and you just bought into it

KidAmn replaced out BECAUSE OF FUCKING PANZER as far as I can tell

Kublai Khan as far as I can tell replaced out 70% of Alisae and maybe like 20% me and 10% because of gamestate I'd guess

Scots replaced out because of my slot (because of things Savage said) but Panzer is trying to sell it as shit that I did

But hey congrats, you get your wish.

-JOHN FUCKING CENA

I guess there's an intersection between unfun to play with and toxic.

Though yeah, the rest of it is just a continuation of you spamming the thread because your voice isn't worshipped and panzer hurt your feelings.

This is a dumb line of conversation either way. Checking out until other people post or I can compile reads

[Flubbernugget]

I'm hopping on your wagon if your reads don't improve within 5 pages

[Flubbernugget]

I don't see how what they did gets anyone in their team lynched but them

[Flubbernugget]

You think everyone is just going to say ok to one slot’s reads to target 3-5 people for death?

Like how one slot always gets the lynch they are pining for and no one has any say on that right

I dont see it playing out like that, but I do see a slot with a massive ego trying to pull it off

Still dont see how this outs scumbuddies

[Flubbernugget]

gobble

why do you want me to vote for flubber

can you point to at least one post and say "yes, this is scum and this is why I think so"

The lack of self awareness when he complained about the grey beard tell is scummy and I think needs to be probed further. At any rate your vote puts him nowhere near lynch but applied more pressure to a slot people think are scummy

If it's not self aware, I obviously wouldnt know, but I think it's good to try and analyze whether or not one of the leading wagons in the game is scum motivated (a corollary to the greybeard thing is that a decent chunk of it isn't).

Btw more on this later!

[Flubbernugget]

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS

DrippingGoofball
Untrod Tripod
Cena and Savage (Unknown Hydra)
Emperor flippyNips
Panzerjager
Ramcius

PETTY CRIMINALS

xRECKONERx
gobbledygook scotmany12
Flavor Leaf
Wondertank (Alisae and Insomnia)
Battle Mage

WHO???

hiplop
Espressojet KidAmn
Lavender
chennisden
Egix96 Kublai Khan
BullDunne
pisskop

MADE GUYS

KuroiXHF
Flubbernugget
Doctor Drew

Here's where I am at but I'm going to iso players now, that may change.

Flavor leaf is surprisingly high on this list.

[Flubbernugget]

STEAK

This post is all of hiplop's iso.

I'd lynch that.

There's a lot of low/no content players in this game

What makes hislop special?

[Flubbernugget]

Spoiler: Reads wall completely unaware of what has been posted since I started writing it

---Town---

Battle Mage: Suspicion of flavor leaf is warranted. Posts like 266 and 303 demonstrate uniformity in how they are treating other players (in this case lurkers). BM has also been able to do a little bit of scumhunting outside of pressuring the lurkers, which for the majority of the game was sadly enough to warrant town credit.

Wondertank: I understand why they scum read KK and Panzer. They also were one of the few people to reach out to others to get a desired wagon together. Very good town look there. Nothing scummy or offputting that caught my eye.

---Null Town---

ScotMany/Turkey: I remember town reading them in thread, and it looked like they were doing a lot to get the game out of a c&s panzer drowning. In ISO they look a lot more barren. Few reads, one notable push, and a LOT of setup spec.

KK/Egix: KK was transparent about having reads that were more human than logical, and I see why it was offputting to other players. I still think that kind of transparency is harder to pull off as scum. Egix hasn't done much; no comment there.

UT: ISO is fairly barren. Small attempts were made to distract from C&S/Panzer, but UT was also looking for people that might use a 1v1 to posture.

---Null---

C&S: Not gonna lie I never got much further than wanting them policy lynched.

Emp Nips: Maybe town based off the Flavor Leaf CC? Need more flips to be certain here.

Espressojet/KidAM: Nothing here.

DGB: They've got a reputation for not having much depth in their explanations, but still being effectinve and having good reads. It's too early to analyze that. She does have that "feel" of being town, as many people have noted. That being said, I don't like how flavor leaf is high on DGB's reads list despite posts like 655, and singling hiplop out of all the lurkers is also a little weird. Interactions between DGB and Flavor Leaf need to be analzyed later.

Hiplop: So I remember when I was in high school I was learning how to put computers together, and three times in a row on three different machines I managed to fry an IDE cable. If anyone has ever put a computer together, they probably know it's not like a breadboard, and is incredibly difficult to actually damage the harware by assembling it unless you've been rubbing your feet on the carpet like you're about to zap someone's ear. Yet I still did it three times.
Three fucking IDE cables. They don't even use IDE cables anymore. I guess the moral of the story is that computers are fucking terrible and nobody should use them. Ever. Best of luck dude, I hope your rig can run Crysis.

Kuroi: Not much to go off of here.

Lavender: Nothing here either. I guess DGB might have a point about them not being coached, if we know scum has daychat? Idk every time I've tried to investigate a daychat slip I've fucked it up.

Panzer: Town for his reaction to C&S, ***IF*** he was genuine in trying to keep them from deepwolfing the game to a town loss. As mentioned before, my vote goes here if they don't start stepping up with reads.

Pisskop: Nothing here.

Reck: Not much here past noise parsing.

---Null Scum---

Ramcius: Most of their iso is setup spec.

Chennisden: Null-Scum. Their vote on Dr Drew is pretty good, but their trajectory on their FL vote is weird. Goes from a vote to "I can't really read them." Both of these votes sit kind of stagnant; there isn't much of an attempt to create pressure out of them and it makes the voting look more like blending in than actual scumhunting. They then flipped from one leading wagon (panzer) to another (me). And what I really don't like about their vote on me it that he hedged on it for a while, only dropping a vote when it was clear I would be a safe wagon to coast on for a good while. Additionally, like I said in [p]374[/p], throwing up a wagon on me early game could have done a lot to break up the c&s drama. Based on my pet idea about the demographics of my wagon, if there's scum on it, it has to be chennisden.

I have chennisden as null-scum instead of scum because a big part of my read is based on how they wagoned me, and I know I have an extremely self-centric bias towards things like that. Also I agree on them about Dr Drew.

Dr Drew: Null-Scum. In a similar vein to what Chennisden has mentioned, they've done a whole lot of nothing so far. Yes, I am aware that my chennisden and drew reads make very little sense together, but I will wait for flips to analyze that more.

---Scum---

Flavor Leaf: Scum. They've had a net negative impact to the town. Plus their ISO is thin. They have a reputation for being more active later in the game, but their reaction to DGB suspecting them puts them pretty firmly in scum territory.

I know I said it would probably be a good idea for people to post reads lists, but I am retracting that because 1) the game is in a much different state now and 2) I don't want to have to read everyone's walls after writing this one.

[Flubbernugget]

Spoiler: Reads wall completely unaware of what has been posted since I started writing it

---Town---

Battle Mage: Suspicion of flavor leaf is warranted. Posts like 266 and 303 demonstrate uniformity in how they are treating other players (in this case lurkers). BM has also been able to do a little bit of scumhunting outside of pressuring the lurkers, which for the majority of the game was sadly enough to warrant town credit.

Wondertank: I understand why they scum read KK and Panzer. They also were one of the few people to reach out to others to get a desired wagon together. Very good town look there. Nothing scummy or offputting that caught my eye.

---Null Town---

ScotMany/Turkey: I remember town reading them in thread, and it looked like they were doing a lot to get the game out of a c&s panzer drowning. In ISO they look a lot more barren. Few reads, one notable push, and a LOT of setup spec.

KK/Egix: KK was transparent about having reads that were more human than logical, and I see why it was offputting to other players. I still think that kind of transparency is harder to pull off as scum. Egix hasn't done much; no comment there.

UT: ISO is fairly barren. Small attempts were made to distract from C&S/Panzer, but UT was also looking for people that might use a 1v1 to posture.

---Null---

C&S: Not gonna lie I never got much further than wanting them policy lynched.

Emp Nips: Maybe town based off the Flavor Leaf CC? Need more flips to be certain here.

Espressojet/KidAM: Nothing here.

DGB: They've got a reputation for not having much depth in their explanations, but still being effectinve and having good reads. It's too early to analyze that. She does have that "feel" of being town, as many people have noted. That being said, I don't like how flavor leaf is high on DGB's reads list despite posts like 655, and singling hiplop out of all the lurkers is also a little weird. Interactions between DGB and Flavor Leaf need to be analzyed later.

Hiplop: So I remember when I was in high school I was learning how to put computers together, and three times in a row on three different machines I managed to fry an IDE cable. If anyone has ever put a computer together, they probably know it's not like a breadboard, and is incredibly difficult to actually damage the harware by assembling it unless you've been rubbing your feet on the carpet like you're about to zap someone's ear. Yet I still did it three times.
Three fucking IDE cables. They don't even use IDE cables anymore. I guess the moral of the story is that computers are fucking terrible and nobody should use them. Ever. Best of luck dude, I hope your rig can run Crysis.

Kuroi: Not much to go off of here.

Lavender: Nothing here either. I guess DGB might have a point about them not being coached, if we know scum has daychat? Idk every time I've tried to investigate a daychat slip I've fucked it up.

Panzer: Town for his reaction to C&S, ***IF*** he was genuine in trying to keep them from deepwolfing the game to a town loss. As mentioned before, my vote goes here if they don't start stepping up with reads.

Pisskop: Nothing here.

Reck: Not much here past noise parsing.

---Null Scum---

Ramcius: Most of their iso is setup spec.

Chennisden: Null-Scum. Their vote on Dr Drew is pretty good, but their trajectory on their FL vote is weird. Goes from a vote to "I can't really read them." Both of these votes sit kind of stagnant; there isn't much of an attempt to create pressure out of them and it makes the voting look more like blending in than actual scumhunting. They then flipped from one leading wagon (panzer) to another (me). And what I really don't like about their vote on me it that he hedged on it for a while, only dropping a vote when it was clear I would be a safe wagon to coast on for a good while. Additionally, like I said in [p]374[/p], throwing up a wagon on me early game could have done a lot to break up the c&s drama. Based on my pet idea about the demographics of my wagon, if there's scum on it, it has to be chennisden.

I have chennisden as null-scum instead of scum because a big part of my read is based on how they wagoned me, and I know I have an extremely self-centric bias towards things like that. Also I agree on them about Dr Drew.

Dr Drew: Null-Scum. In a similar vein to what Chennisden has mentioned, they've done a whole lot of nothing so far. Yes, I am aware that my chennisden and drew reads make very little sense together, but I will wait for flips to analyze that more.

---Scum---

Flavor Leaf: Scum. They've had a net negative impact to the town. Plus their ISO is thin. They have a reputation for being more active later in the game, but their reaction to DGB suspecting them puts them pretty firmly in scum territory.

I know I said it would probably be a good idea for people to post reads lists, but I am retracting that because 1) the game is in a much different state now and 2) I don't want to have to read everyone's walls after writing this one.

VOTE: Flubber

Nice, telling people not to post their readlist, so they wouldn't overshadow yours

.... what?

If I was scum, I'd probably

want

to be overshadowed. Especially as a leading wagon

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: panzer

[Flubbernugget]

Moving the self vote at least

[Flubbernugget]

So, ah...

You guys are satisfied with hiplop's excuses?

Shit like this really makes it hard to get into this game I'm gonna be honest

hiplop plz just read the game

whenever i open this thread to do it, someone is doubting me for out of game reasons and i get pissy and no longer want to read 30 pages of mafia

ISO the leading wagons

[Flubbernugget]

oh, my b.

Unvote, vote reina

Can you please not vote the mason? Literally no one is going to follow you with that vote and it is just vanity right now.

nah, this post is scum.

Why?

[Flubbernugget]

UT, 50 judge powers is just Almost50 role playing as his various alts all under one account

I didn't sign up for this

[Flubbernugget]

Oh, look, it’s almost page 50. About time for me to takeover.

Hope y’all had your fun while it lasted.

Please ruin my fun now I don't want to have to wait 8 more pages

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: dr drew

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: hiplop

[Flubbernugget]

im gonna be honest

im not even gonna entertain this last push because its either completely incompetent or extremely manipulative

my role pm says vt. everyone has a finisher - its just the base game mechanic. im still a vt, holy shit.

thanks for being honest. I believe you.

It's a good claim, you could be a VT, happy to lynch somebody else today.

First bad post from battle mage this game

[Flubbernugget]

@Ramcius

Why are you settled in with your Flubbernugget vote?

I didn't liked his reaction to early scumreads on him and now he's nowhere to see, when pressure isn't on him

You're full of shot

[Flubbernugget]

*shit

[Flubbernugget]

WRT the VT claim:


If and as soon as we get an outlandish flip that indicates role madness,we rope it.

Otherwise, enh, let somebody vig it or something.

VOTE: ramicus
Down for a D2 scotymany lynch. I think its fair to give lynchbait a day to air itself out.

Good enough vote I'll keep you town for now

[Flubbernugget]

i think dgb is mafia too but yall aint ready for that conversation

They're in my null pile for having a mix of town and scum properties. Talk to me about this?

[Flubbernugget]

That's what is impressive though.

You're not alone in scum reading me but your reasons are uniquely and consistently trash.

[Flubbernugget]

Explain to me how being in the top half of posters this game (as of right now just above you) is "nowhere to be seen"?

Explain to me, how based on my suspicions of hiplop, naked voting for them is nowhere to be seen? It's the exact opposite of that

[Flubbernugget]

Explain to me how being in the top half of posters this game (as of right now just above you) is "nowhere to be seen"?

Explain to me, how based on my suspicions of hiplop, naked voting for them is nowhere to be seen? It's the exact opposite of that

Have you done anything more than sheeping DGB on Hiplop? I remember you flailing your arms around complaining how people are scumreading you, yet aren't voting, then you posted readlist and told people not to post theirs, cause you're too lazy to read their and then pretty much blank, sheeping DGB on Hiplop isn't some sort of achievement or doing any work

I'm not sheeping dgb and I've expressed my suspicion of them. Did you want the game to sit around with 4 vote wagons until EOD? What alignment benefits from that again? Hm?

I didn't complain about people voting me. I used it to sort my wagon. I have posts on this. If your accusations against me weren't uniquely stupid I'd cite them. I'm instead going to be lazy (as if that's a scumtell) just to spite you.

Get everyone to posts readslists if you think my commentary on it was bad. I'll wait.

Speaking of people nowhere to be seen I addressed in my readslist you're so moist over that you're useless and have no impact in the game. Any reason you have yet to refute this? Maybe I'm right?

[Flubbernugget]

Don't love the flubbernugget wagon at all or the hiplop wagon

I'm kind of concerned how it fell apart so fast.

Elaborate?

I kind of don't get the flubbernugget case and I'm really concerned that the hiplop wagon seemed to just... disintegrate? Like I didn't love the wagon before but he ltierally says "ok I am VT" and that is apparently enough

I'm not a fan of pressuring lurkers but sometimes you get lucky and pressure all the lurker's scumbuddies. I didn't notice the wagon disintegrate, but I think it's also noticable that the closest to a hiplop counterwagon was me, and it came from people scumreading me before the hiplop wagon was even a thing.

[Flubbernugget]

2nd point didnt convince me anyway, it was the 3rd

I didnt fully understand ut's case, but was it really so rock solid that it quelled your suspicions of them?

[Flubbernugget]

I agree that it would have been better not to push a lurker, but the panzer wagon dissolved. Leaving my vote there would have been vanity, like my flavor leaf vote. Like chennisden pointed out, vanity wagons aren't getting town anywhere. You can bitch about the hiplop claim but it got good leads on karnage.

"Complains for people not voting you" idk what this is talking about.

And you didn't force me to contribute lmao. I picked up after c&as replaced out. Like literally everyone else.

[Flubbernugget]

2nd point didnt convince me anyway, it was the 3rd

I didnt fully understand ut's case, but was it really so rock solid that it quelled your suspicions of them?

Karnage tried to test Hiplop's VT claim by saying that VTs doesn't have finishers, for some reason Karnage believes there is no VTs in this game, so by doing it he wanted Hiplop to claim PR, be it town or scum

Yeah there's a major issue with pinning this as scum in a bubble

[Flubbernugget]

I know I said it would probably be a good idea for people to post reads lists, but I am retracting that because 1) the game is in a much different state now and 2) I don't want to have to read everyone's walls after writing this one.

For those following at home. Ramcisus has taken issue with this part of my reads list post three times. He is concerned about part 2 while continuously having no interest in the much more important point 1.

[Flubbernugget]

Normally I'd think it's wagon resistance or something, but it's been stated in thread a few times that the game state needs to change and hesitation on wagoning me goes against that

I dont understand what you're trying to insinuate, but the post right after what you quoted solidifies conclusions from my suspicions.

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Normally I'd think it's wagon resistance or something, but it's been stated in thread a few times that the game state needs to change and hesitation on wagoning me goes against that

I dont understand what you're trying to insinuate, but the post right after what you quoted solidifies conclusions from my suspicions.

I'm saying that your scumbuddies were scumreading you without voting, your quote here is another good reason to lynch you - you are suspicious of them, but do nothing to pursue them

So you're scumreading dgb and chennisden?

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...and saying that dgb wont vote for me?

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On another check, chennisden voted for me too

You are literally pulling a narrative out of your ass

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it came from people scumreading me before the hiplop wagon was even a thing.

How do you interpret that?

I've said multiple times in multiple ways that the wagon on me is probably town motivated

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2nd point didnt convince me anyway, it was the 3rd

I didnt fully understand ut's case, but was it really so rock solid that it quelled your suspicions of them?

i dont think rock solid is the bar we're all limping over my dude

If you're going to make a post that is true

Please be less disappointing next time

Signed

Flub

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I'm growing increasingly suspicious of Reck's & Flavor Leaf's apathy.

it's Day 1 DGB, how are you NOT apathetic

You also dont have the baggage of saying

I will do better after 50 pages

And then having the thread hit 60 pages

So in other words

Flavor leaf get your ass in gear you fucking cocktease

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...and saying that dgb wont vote for me?

Yes, DGB is in my scumreads, now why she didn't vote you, but was going hard on Hiplop, that's a good question

I didn't vote Flubber, you say?

DGB vote Flubber!

I'd rather his buddy Dr Drew but why not

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Now granted my vote didn't stay there for long as Flubber's inner townie finally came out, but it does support you making shit up.

Flubber, don't want comment on this? It was you, who said DGB didn't vote you

Yes. They voted me after I said that.

Just take your L dude

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Also, I have like 80 posts, so I’m not even as inactive as people are saying I am.

This isn't helping your case

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Also, I’m the high priority night kill around these places, Reck/DGB.

I actively have to play in ways to avoid being night killed nowadays because my solve’s are too strong.

I either have to get hard hard hard discredited from the beginning of the game, or I get night killed.

Check the sig

If you're eating an early nk we can look at your reads as good evidence of your track record.

I just looked at your sig and most of it is about how good you are as scum. Which never gets nightkilled.

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leaf vote karnage

Are you sheeping UT's read?

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I like kuroi for scum

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VOTE: kuroi

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what the fuck

I like kuroi for scum

why

Their catch up was abysmal

Do you think they're town?

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UT I wasnt really expecting you to wagon kuroi I just wanted your thoughts on the slot. I think it's self evident that their catch up had nothing of substance and I cant really provide much more depth or detail than that. I dont think this invalidates my read though.

I've been trying to be tight lipped on this but it's causing more harm than good so I'll be upfront. Karnage not understanding the content of a VT pm only shows they're probabaly not a VT. That leaves them as scum OR a town PR. So if this is the only thing he's scum for, I cant lock in on that read, and I find it pretty dangerous and irresponsible that the rest of the town seems okay in doing so.

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oh boy this sure is a bad post.

elaborate

I'm not in the habit of explaining to my scumreads why they're scum. hush now and take your rope.

I don't see it either. I'm not thrilled about how this game is handling claims either, and if I got caught up in it personally I'd find that pretty egregious

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L M A O

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VOTE: turkey

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Bahahahahaha that fuckin sucks dude

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Wait no

VOTE: lavender

Anyone that doesn't finish turkey tonight is scumclaiming

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Drew what are you doing

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Cool so that's a lavendar turkey drew scumteam

1 or 2 left?

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Don't Call Scumteams: You're Almost Always Wrong and Even When You Are Right No One Gives A Shit Except For You, a brief mafia primer by Untrod Tripod

Don't Call Scumteams: You're Almost Always Wrong and Even When You Are Right No One Gives A Shit Except For You

,

Well sometimes when you are in like 4 days of successive LYLO, you have to take a punt.

What is it like living in the bizarro reality where 1488 doesn't exist

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Wait no

VOTE: lavender

Anyone that doesn't finish turkey tonight is scumclaiming

That would be a really inefficient use of our finishers. You only want 4 people max to target someone.

Ok cool I am using my finisher on turkey who else would like to voulenteer

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crazy idea: what if we just kill it right now

Didn't you say lavender was bullet proof

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Were we supposed to pretend gobble didn't just post to his scumbuddies in the wrong thread for the spirit of the game or something because I'm owed a refund on like three scum losses if that's the case

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Actually, that wagon hasn't yet matured, so back on it.

VOTE: Kuroi

Put me in your pocket DGB

Vote: Kuroi

I have a suspicion that the next 5-10 pages of this game are going to be tragically dumb but I'm compelled to follow through

I assume that's based on the history of the last 40 odd pages?

What in the deep fried fuck is happening here

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Were we supposed to pretend gobble didn't just post to his scumbuddies in the wrong thread for the spirit of the game or something because I'm owed a refund on like three scum losses if that's the case

says the person not voting gobbles

I just want you to know right now that if you're fucking with my head it's working

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You're voting a confirmed town

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Were we supposed to pretend gobble didn't just post to his scumbuddies in the wrong thread for the spirit of the game or something because I'm owed a refund on like three scum losses if that's the case

says the person not voting gobbles

I just want you to know right now that if you're fucking with my head it's working

eeeeexcellent

if you think that gobbles scumslipped then vote gobbles instead of being cute about trying to get the most optimalest scumlynch between the scumlynches

one step at a time my friend

I don't understand this. There's a risk lavender can't be nk'd. Eating one lynch vs two seems like a pretty big optimization

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You're voting a confirmed town

Not mafia isn't conf town, buddy, that's assuming turkey actually slipped and isn't just messing around

You're not voting for confirmed scum that's a hell of a look

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Hey

Hey UT

are you ready for this?

Scumteam is

{TURKEY. LAVENDER. DREW. RAMSCIUS.}

in that order

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I have a suspicion that the next 5-10 pages of this game are going to be tragically dumb but I'm compelled to follow through anyway

VOTE: Gobbledygook

I am here to serve

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I don’t honestly get why they are all defending lavender when I’m trying to bus her lol. Guess we should just get on the Kuroi mislynch

lol

VOTE: gobbledygook

Fucking fine

VOTE: turkey

Pedit sorry ramseeus ill do better next time

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crazy idea: what if we just kill it right now

Didn't you say lavender was bullet proof

...do you... think bulletproof means lynchproof...?

No

Thah's why I wanted lavender lynched and turkey finished

One of us is missing something incredibly stupid here. I'm willing to own it if it's me

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I don’t honestly get why they are all defending lavender when I’m trying to bus her lol. Guess we should just get on the Kuroi mislynch

lol

VOTE: gobbledygook

Fucking fine

VOTE: turkey

Pedit sorry ramseeus ill do better next time

Classic "I'm so smart, I'll butcher name again to piss that guy off", can you be at least somewhat original?

Yeah ill remember the 7 in your name is silent next time

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The idea that gobbles posted in the correct thread because the game/scum pt's are too easy to tell apart is too much for my fragile ego to expect, given I've slipped like that several times

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*to accept

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They said they were bussing lavender tho

Unless you're voting gobble for something other than the crosspost? Having trouble w/ the sarcasm parsing atm

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Wslp

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Yer

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Yeah lots more analysis to do later, but for now I'm happy with a starting

Vote: Chennisden

I did read whole ISO, nothing else really jumped out at me, apart from the fact he is a good player with good reads.

Im?

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Um?

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Ill have to look in the morning.

this guy should b ded

No u

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Hey battle mage
Not only did I read your posts, I read this one three damn times

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Anyway when I'm gone and confirmed town, my suspicions are

Reck, egix, flippynips, hiplop

I would lynch in Reck/hiplop today. I don;t think either egix or nips are scum.

Reck is like the towniest player here, I aint lynching him.

Why are we trying to sort lurkers? Town has shown they're smart enough to use their finishers correctly

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Hey battle mage
Not only did I read your posts, I read this one three damn times

excellent work flubbernugget, you'll progress quickly!

You're going to hurt yourself if you want to lynch your town leans and then think they're the stupid ones

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If it weren't for gobbles plowing my hopes and dreams into the fucking ground I'd be relentlessly down your throat over this

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As ram7ius pointed out, you want to lynch a town lean

*Johnnie Cochran voice* that does not make sense

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Town piles tend to make lynch preference meaningless

And for good reason

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VOTE: doctor drew

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BM thought Flub was scum from start, reason is that 5 out of first 6 people (including BM himself) on Turkey wagon are non-mafia. Well, at first his argument was that people around Flub on wagon were non-mafia, with UT being IC it makes first half of wagon mostly conf non-maf and only Flub is unknown in that list. Ofc this is from BM PoV as we don't know his alignment

Interesting perspective

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I still feel like drew is a non entity in this game

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As opposed to all the all the other players who have been posting non stop in this game?

You have the special privilege of not being a lurker

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I do

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Probably. Btw, i called UT as town.

I checked the other 11 posts in your ISO and couldn't find that. why bother lying about this?

At least invent a fl scum read if you're gonna do this geez

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Reck you still feel like you're struggling to get into the game what's up dude

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That's my (your?) case on dr drew whos been doing it for longer

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LOL @this game. It now looks to me that the TOWN is survivalistic. Nobody wants to stand out so as to avoid being targeted by finishers

We're hitting lurkers w/ finishers keep up

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If we're going to policy a lurker I'd rather it be piss since we at least know there's finishers on kuroi

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The Q+ isn't working. Fine.

My verb tense was off. I believed DGB was town then. She's not. K. If you voted yourself and it wasn't a stupid joke vote then that's inherently terrible play. Wanting yourself dead is almost always detrimental for your side.

VOTE: Hiplop

I trust UT more than i trust myself.

literally

WHAT

Did i ST ST STUTTER

Yes

VOTE: kuroi

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I also give zero shits about the wagons, you guys are literally wagoning people for shits and giggles, not to solve the game

I suppose it can't be helped when literally nothing is happening

who do you want to lynch, and why?

maybe Drew/Pisskop? feel like they're not doing anything but are trying really hard to seem otherwise

You had a chance to work w/ me on a drew wagon

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Chenmisden aint the scummiest by a long shot

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VOTE: dr drew

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I also have a feeling that Kuroi was the NK, so we would waste our finishers.

I think scum used their finishers on UT(I think at least one of them used a finisher on him Night 1).

Pre Edit: Ok Rek, thoughts on my theory?

Also, did you use a finisher.......and if so, on who?

i usually think nk analysis is too WIFOMy to rely on but i think there's a possibility youre right. like, then again, it makes me think you are scum who set this up to frame flippy/chenn?

i did use a finisher yes, on kuroi

This makes no damn sense even from a wifom perspective

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i have literally no clue about this game. like none. i kept hoping we'd flip a scumbag by now and the mechanics arent engaging me as much as i thought.

someone help me. prod me to answer shit

What makes you think we would have lynched a scum by now and why does FL not count

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Chen totten flip idk

Can someone tell me why chen is scum

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Also, not knowing how many scums are in the game is a bit confusing because I usually try to map out all possible teams at this stage and remove the ones I believe are unlikely, but I have no idea whether to make teams of 4 or 5 (including FL)

To be clear, 50JP is scum.

I am not.

I am not claiming anything - flavour, role, finishers, nada.

Now it is bedtime.

If I am understanding correctly, your a50 read is contigent upon lavender being scum?

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More later today

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Fuckshitballs I never did the thing

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Cool, how about trying to do fucking anything instead of crying about nobody doing anything. What have you contributed?

Yes sir

Lavender
Flippy
VOTE: Battle Mage

Lynch in this group imo.

I cant follow the BMI a50 thing at all but what is the scum case on BM now?

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Reck, join us on BM.

Flubb, fuck off of me and join us as well.

No

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i was never on pisskop and ill hammer him idgaf i just think flubber is scum and is gonna just waltz away with it

It's a lot easier to waltz away with a when when you're willing to hammer lurkers because "idgaf"
did u just claim scum literally in this post lmfao

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i was never on pisskop and ill hammer him idgaf i just think flubber is scum and is gonna just waltz away with it

It's a lot easier to waltz away with a when when you're willing to hammer lurkers because "idgaf"

did u just claim scum literally in this post lmfao

i literally quoted the post where you said "I will hammer a lurker idgaf". What the hell are you talking about

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Point to *anywhere* where I even suggested I was going to hammer *anyone* in this game?