BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[GeorgeBailey]

I think you’re wrong on GB. His barb post burried her, so unless you think she put him up to that?

Titus was sinking doesn't really sound beyond her scum range.

His vote after hearing the cop result and subsecuant unvote when she had a chance of not getting lynched was what convinced me Titus was 1000% scum and with GB.

We can do rce first though if you feel more confident about it.

~Venus

@GB, any response to this?

I am really not confident at all or else I’d have already voted.

~Mars

I'm gonna be honest with you, that was just a really bad misplay that seemed to work out.

I pretty much thought that No result = Town, and that Nom outing the same one-shot I got, guaranteed her as Town.

I guess those actions seemed really suspicious, but I just didn't realize at the time that the fruit was blocking Nom.

[GeorgeBailey]

Also, though I do like chronos following the Titus vote. There is still the possibility Titus is calling the scumteam (mostly or completely) correctly and chronos frustration is coming from that. When they feel the pairing shouldn't be that obvious.

Did not read why Titus had that grouping in the first place and I'm also not sure I've seen Titus doing day 1 associations ever?

I mean like this one

Wouldn't scum be less blatant in their townread for their partner?

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah I'll give pretty good odds of scum!BTE trying to set up a counterwagon to protect scum!RCE

GB is town now

Speaking of V&M why haven't we been asking about how they're making bonus game picks? More so, why haven't they been bringing it up themselves?
I thought that was a central part of Nancy's reason she couldn't be scum.

I’ve been selecting both tr and players who I think would navigate Boonus rounds the best. Shiro and me are trying to determine that now, whether or not that should be the only criteria for those picks.

I obviously don’t want to out my picks by putting a target on any of their heads and I won’t.

[Venus and Mars]

I think nancy thought her boonus rooms would be much more obviously protown than they actually are; not sure if boon basically lies to scum about what their role does?

-K

Well, considering I picked Titus N1, apparently not. :/

[Venus and Mars]

I think nancy thought her boonus rooms would be much more obviously protown than they actually are; not sure if boon basically lies to scum about what their role does?

-K

Well, considering I picked Titus D1, apparently not. :/

[Venus and Mars]

I think nancy thought her boonus rooms would be much more obviously protown than they actually are; not sure if boon basically lies to scum about what their role does?

-K

Does it matter that much what the effects are? Influencing who are in the rooms benefits one team over the other regardless of the room's effect.

I have been doing my best to consistently choose my strongest tr and I’m solid on two picks and trying to decide the 3rd.

[chkflip]

HOW DARE YOU NOT CHOOSE ME

[Krazy Katz]

I mean you claimed 3p

[Venus and Mars]

Also, since I'm turning in in a moment, I'd like George to explain whether he tried to pass his Barb, and why he took the decision he did.

Nancy's play just kinda reminds me of Titus', the vague promise of overpowered role actions at some point in the future.

No it doesn’t, considering we had almost literally the same role in LNT and chk understood my not “obvtown but not today” post. I haven’t said too much about it because it was obviously based on my N1 one shot invest. At the time, I obviously had no clue that over half the freaking game had the exact same role.

[chkflip]

SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH KATZ

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

JJH927
Conspire
davesaz
The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet

Is the pool of lynches today based on the D1 and D2 wagons. RCE is in this list but JJ, dave or fonzie should be considered before voting RCE.

VOTE: JJH927

I have spoken.

this list of names appears to be exactly the alive players who weren't on the titus wagon
am i right that this is what you've taken, or is there more depth to your thinking?
if yes, do you really believe in that?

Guys, read sore feet. Where's the solve motive there? I can live with RCE or George wagon. Both are squarely within the PoE. But c'mon this hydra is gliding through the game, with no apparent effort to help town.

i dont believe you've read me in anything like the level of detail you profess to have. this applies to MS far more than me.
why does the logic you give for townreading chronos, not also apply to me?
or have you just not read that part of the game?

XToxm's earlier posts were pretty Townie though.

i've finally seen town in george - here fonz offers him a counterwagon to himself and he swats it away when he has no need to. i consider this pretty unlikely to come from newb!scum

Yeah I'll give pretty good odds of scum!BTE trying to set up a counterwagon to protect scum!RCE

please resist the temptation to dive into the pre-flip associative rabbit hole

How does Titus posting like that clear George? You seem to be assuming she actually wanted to, and more importantly expected to be able to deflect the lynch at that point. Why aren't you considering the possibility that Titus tried to spew a partner town by creating associations that "scum wouldn't want to make". I think she's trying to remove attention from the unvote precisely by bringing attention to it.

titus knew she was going down, i have little to no interest in her behavior post guilty, its scum wifom
correct move is not to drink
look at her earlier interactions - for example, she looked like she was pocketing VM d1, weak town indication

This is a scummy page so far

dw i'll

fix that

scum it up some more

Beyond that I wouldn't say X is obviously beyond his scumrange but he hasn't particularly pinged me

i probably exceeded my scumrange on d1, but i wouldnt expect anyone other than myself to pick up on it. i got wooper to give a read on me before i told him our role and he said nulltown.
i do feel like im not projecting town well since, my interest has waned somewhat.

X is like... A generally hard read for me

X starting off by pushing nancy isn't totally dissimilar to his play in tm but his back off and move to consp and unvote before the switch up is +townie

you need to read my tm game before drawing parallels with it. my play here and there is worlds apart. i shitparked rc d1 and made almost exclusively off topic posts as a strategy because i didnt want to play with him.
i also exceeded my entire post count for that game on d1 here.

Idk still not a slot I want to lynch rn

keep this up and you'll pocket me eventually
not even jking

See thing is I don't think any of my day one town reads are any less townish, and Dave and Chronos over the course of the day have kinda moved out of my "Would lynch" pile. RN it's basically RCE, George, SF in the POE.

you arent casting your net nearly wide enough if this is your poe. im expecting 5 non town, given boon's modding track record.
assume one of these flips town rn and day continues. where would you look next to expand?

Speaking of V&M why haven't we been asking about how they're making bonus game picks? More so, why haven't they been bringing it up themselves?

support; boonus rooms were under utilised in LNT and we managed to slip through two powers under towns noses that never made it to jingles mech compile.

i dont have any good reason to tr rce. his flip on VM doesnt look natural. solid wagon option tbh. (if we're not massclaiming which i still think is towns best play today). i think he's siteflaking, so maybe we'll get another new head for that slot soon.

lowkey disappointed that fonz's attempt to wagon me has yielded 0 additional votes

What is your opinion on both Dave’s and Fonz’s post wrt my role? Both were tr me D1 and 2 but I haven’t selected either one of them so far.

Probably irrelevant but I found that interesting, regardless.

I like that your slot has mentioned nothing so far about it.

[Venus and Mars]

i have no idea why MS is a universal tr here
hes been hopping on every wagon like all game its actually pretty scummy

p-ed
thank you chk <3
you're my only really solid tr so that would be fun

3631. KK thinks that Titus spewed him town in the Boonus room.

[Venus and Mars]

also doesn't titus lowkey spew shiro town?

+1

I'm gonna have to ask you to explain this one, chief.

The cookie interaction did not feel s/s

What is this?

Also agree with jjh that BTE’s list doesn’t seem like actual scumhunting. Just listing the people who didn’t vote scum without looking at any context isn’t great.

~Esper

I wasn’t totally thrilled with his “reward” post. Another slot I like for not mentioning BRs.

[Venus and Mars]

Reads change, bud. And rn I at least like what BEF is trying to do more than what anybody else is trying to do. Also people are ignoring me about Chronos, so, I'm not gonna make a D1 fuss about things anymore. It's not worth my time.

Is your Chronus sr based off of Titus’ wifom? Because if Titus could antispew one of her buddies via rule of the 3, then why couldn’t scum!Titus just happen to pick 3 townies in order to fuck with us? Right?

Plus Shiro is insistent that she’s town and I also tl them but obviously not as strong as Shiro.

[davesaz]

Yeah I'll give pretty good odds of scum!BTE trying to set up a counterwagon to protect scum!RCE

GB is town now

Speaking of V&M why haven't we been asking about how they're making bonus game picks? More so, why haven't they been bringing it up themselves?
I thought that was a central part of Nancy's reason she couldn't be scum.

I’ve been selecting both tr and players who I think would navigate Boonus rounds the best. Shiro and me are trying to determine that now, whether or not that should be the only criteria for those picks.

I obviously don’t want to out my picks by putting a target on any of their heads and I won’t.

What I'm missing is the description during D2 of who you picked for N1, and today for who you picked for N2.
I agree that saying who you'll pick in advance isn't the best.

[Venus and Mars]

what BEF is trying to do

Don't think BEF is listed in the player list. Who is this you're referring to?

BTE = BEF
sore feet = xtoxm + wooper
krazy katz = krazy + amrun
MS = auro + volxen
conspire = we think espeonage or taly? + ??

hope this helps

I thought Conspire was espeonqge + DDL?

Possibly due to cute gifs but I dunno, doesn’t really sound like Taly?

[Venus and Mars]

Yeah we understand Nancy, have you talked with Shiro to carry for a while?

-K

Yeah, he promised he would but that’s on Shiro time . . . so . . .

I will it is just day 1 are never my strong point.

Cookie please?

See, get Shiro. Thread is in Greek.

@Auro, Nancy Shiro and I go way back. Like years.

@Shiro, I need a cookie.

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think. The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think.

The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting

. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

Is Shiro known to low post as scum or what does -bolded- mean?

Basically even when Shiro low posts, I expect a Cookie gif. It goes back to our cookie hydra.

This feels like Titus pocketing Shiro tbh

-K

She did the exact thing to him in HW ftr, remember that Shiro?

[Venus and Mars]

conspire definitely does not include taly

My alt reading has improved.

[davesaz]

I also want to make it clear that I'm not angling to get picked here. Especially with how much stuff appears to be bastardized this game.
If selected I'll do my best, and if not selected I'll just do my thing.

[jjh927]

I have been doing my best to consistently choose my strongest tr and I’m solid on two picks and trying to decide the 3rd.

Can you maybe just gimme an opportunity to get a third item so I can do something

[Venus and Mars]

Titus might spew chronos town too

I initially sl her for her continued pushing of that TMI thing but in light of Titis’ flip. I find it hard to believe she’d have made that post as scum.

Hmm should we be lynching inside jjh and dave today

Why Dave? Although I’m not crazy about his sudden out of the blue suspicions wrt to our role but Fonz’s take on it probably looks worse but I’m probably just being slightly paranoid. It’s just as both of their suspicions wrt to it, seemed to have come out of nowhere. It just really doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Why suddenly on D3, from two slots who claimed to tl us on D1.

Can you also explain jjh, because I’m having trouble reading that slot? Thanks.

[Venus and Mars]

Titus's reaction to nom's guilty might suggest bte/titus not same pt, if bte is not town I'd expect traitor/3p rather than groupscum

-K

What does Titus’ reaction to nom’s guilty have to do with bte but I think BEF isn’t playing much differently here than in TBoNTB.

[Venus and Mars]

another reason to mc and get the ball rolling on a mech solve

No, you don't MC until

after

a bunch of actions. MC prematurely allows scum to prepare answers that they shouldn't have, or sidestep actions. And I wouldn't put the chances high of having even a single vanilla player. There may be significant gates like non-consecutive, even/odd, or blockers like the sticky fruit, but I'd bet every single one of us has some form of action.

MC?

[davesaz]

Although I’m not crazy about his sudden out of the blue suspicions wrt to our role

Not everything that gets commented on is a suspicion. You do tend to take everything that way to the point that it's totally NAI though so I guess I shouldn't be surprised...

Pedit: MC = massclaim

[Venus and Mars]

Titus's reaction to nom's guilty might suggest bte/titus not same pt, if bte is not town I'd expect traitor/3p rather than groupscum

-K

This is the kind of dense writing thing that causes me in trouble in my technical writing sometimes in RL.
I'll break it down to see if my interpretation is right.

If Titus and BTE were groupscum together, Titus should know that a SF is coming, and therefore be better prepared to handle a guilty by saying right up front "nuh huh, SF so you're lying". Since Titus didn't seem to be prepared to handle the guilty with a SF argument, she presumably didn't know that there was SF, therefore BTE can't be groupscum.

There is an inherent assumption here, that BTE is telling the truth that SF go to everyone. We're also making an assumption that barbs crumbling mean that SF is disabled, where in fact the people saying that may never have been targeted with a SF at all.

I think I agree that the interaction points to BTE town or 3p more than scum, and you did say suggest, so I think it boils down to the same conclusion.

Right, BTE doesn’t make sense as a Titus’ buddy unless Boon forbid him discussing that in a scum PT as well but unlikely.