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[skitter30]

I'd rather be honest and say that I have trouble reading most of the game rather than pretending to do and prodging and shit.
Just blergh skitter is voting me for a garbage reason kinda makes me want to vote there too now, couldn't we just have voted allo and went to day 2.

oh?

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Nom definitely goes into the copbloc. Molla goes into the copbloc.
I'm ambivalent about Karnage. If you and Smart think so, you could swap him out for any of Skitter/GuiltyLion.
I wouldn't leash the cop to just two slots though, but the cop could assign a higher weight to Nom when they roll the die

I still prefer GL in the copbloc

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I'd rather be honest and say that I have trouble reading most of the game rather than pretending to do and prodging and shit.
Just blergh skitter is voting me for a garbage reason kinda makes me want to vote there too now, couldn't we just have voted allo and went to day 2.

nom, can you clarify whether you legitimately thought that was a slip or were just joking?

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Also why did you vote Eve if you still prefer Allo lynch? The Eve wagon is gone I think

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

GL, what are your thoughts on Sausasaurus Rex right now? Still townreading him from tone?

It feels like everyone basically gave him a pass even though he's produced less content than Eve/Allo/molla

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

also apologies for being MIA in thread for a few days, work got a little crazy (internal audits.. scary shit)

I'm trying to catch up on the rest of the thread and will also try to read Auro/GL walls with no guarantee of success. Also I'll try to sort out my reads again because I'm basically starting from scratch with the disintegration of the Allo wagon. If anyone has any specific posts they want me to look at or questions or such, please lmk

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Nom definitely goes into the copbloc. Molla goes into the copbloc.
I'm ambivalent about Karnage. If you and Smart think so, you could swap him out for any of Skitter/GuiltyLion.
I wouldn't leash the cop to just two slots though, but the cop could assign a higher weight to Nom when they roll the die

I still prefer GL in the copbloc

- Smarter

Oops I meant to say GL in the townbloc

But also this may change pending reread

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Sausasaurus you have yet to respond to my 417 and 437.

Also, what was your read on Allomancer when you voted him in 802?

- Smarter

[GuiltyLion]

But that's not. The last "null" read was me saying I'd lynch allo over eve, not a change in my read

but if Allo was likely town per your 575 then why would you lynch Allo at all?!

what I'm not understanding is how Allo graduated from "doesn't scream town but doesn't scream scum" to "likely town" but then reverted back to "doesn't scream town but doesn't scream scum". The evolution from null->town between 453 and 575 doesn't feel genuine as a result, especially since you're not really pushing any stronger scumreads

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

And I think pressuring nom has merit too

Molla, this is the first time you mention nom this game. Can you talk about your read on her before and after the allomancer wagon died?

- Smarter

[GuiltyLion]

i'm kinda most skeptical of where she accused me of slipping because i really don't think there's any universe where she actually believes that

I agree with this, the slip accusation was really lazy/bad. So bad that I actually do kinda find myself questioning whether scum!nom would even post that, but in any case I really don't believe that she felt any conviction towards it being a real scum slip and that's absolutely worth pushing on.

i'm kinda most skeptical of where she accused me of slipping because i really don't think there's any universe where she actually believes that

I read it as being a joke

this is possibly worse still though, how could you see it as a joke? Like best case "totally checked out and disengaged town taking a potshot" maybe, but there's no 'joke' there?

I'm trying not to confbias myself in my Karnage/nom tunnel but
a) all these Karnage defenses of nom and
b) nom reverting from the really thoughtful/observant player of earlier this game

just seem to fit it so well from my POV? why are we entertaining the idea of lynching Allo/Eve at this point still? I'm fine with Allo in the copbloc, I don't feel Skit really needs to be in there anymore.

I think my dream rn is a Karnage lynch with nom/Allo/Molla/Saus off wagon, tho most importantly nom/Allo, happy to defer the Molla/Saus/other slots to whoever other people want to put there.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Isn't Allo better on-wagon?

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Isn't Allo better on-wagon?

- Smarter

[GuiltyLion]

GL, what are your thoughts on Sausasaurus Rex right now? Still townreading him from tone?

It feels like everyone basically gave him a pass even though he's produced less content than Eve/Allo/molla

- Smarter

yeah I'm not happy with the lack of content from Saus and I'd say he's a potential candidate for a scum!nom partner in a town!Karnage world. I still don't feel he's been really disingenuous while posting but like I said wrt Karnage as well, if Allo/Eve are both town then scum hasn't needed to push an agenda here and Saus fits that pattern as well

[BBmolla]

And I think pressuring nom has merit too

Molla, this is the first time you mention nom this game. Can you talk about your read on her before and after the allomancer wagon died?

- Smarter

I misread Nom really bad in another game and now I don't know how to read her and that's about it

[GuiltyLion]

Isn't Allo better on-wagon?

actually yeah I think my reasoning for wanting Allo off-wagon was wrong and doesn't need to be resolved via TA check. You right

[BBmolla]

I think a hypocop d2 would be very beneficial this game btw

[BBmolla]

I think nom is town for most recent posts

[Allomancer]

I'm worried under a hypocop mafia may be able to find the real TA too easily. If anyone hypoclaims a wrong result, mafia knows it's not them. If anyone changes a read on someone they had hypocopped, mafia knows it's not them. I think the TA should just breadcrumb instead.

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

hey allomancer there's ~5 pages since your last post, any thoughts on content in those pages?

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

our mod needs a prod :/ hopefully she's okay, looks like she hasn't posted onsite for a couple days

still rereading, I'm doing a post by post ISO thingy so this is gonna take a while

- Smarter

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

I think nom is town for most recent posts

what about her recent posts seems town to you?

- Smarter

[nomnomnom]

I'd rather be honest and say that I have trouble reading most of the game rather than pretending to do and prodging and shit.
Just blergh skitter is voting me for a garbage reason kinda makes me want to vote there too now, couldn't we just have voted allo and went to day 2.

nom, can you clarify whether you legitimately thought that was a slip or were just joking?

- Smarter

It could be a legit slip that's why I pointed out.
I'm not 100% entertaining it as a legit slip, just pointing that out right now because slips become apparent in late game.

[nomnomnom]

I disagree with that evaluation. Many pushes are happening, the gamestate is progressing well.

Okay; let's take your current desired lynch, and assume they flip town. That's a gamestate progression. What now? Please tell me what this information would gain for you in terms of a solve.

I think Skitter and GuiltyLion both are town.

Because Eve is more scummy in tone and that has the tendency to make people think "scum" instantly.
She still could be scum ultimately speaking, in this gamestate. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot her right now.
I might compromise on Eve if needed today.

VOTE: Eve

Also,

please explain the vote change to Eve

, given your earlier stance only listed her as a compromise.

What did Allo do that got you to move off

?

Sure, but can you answer these? Thanks.

I voted Eve because I am having some doubts on Allo's slot, and Eve is the next wagon that makes sense.
I know I said they were lynchbait earlier but that could easily be wrong, and I have no idea where I could take my vote. Like honestly I'm actually having some trouble seeing who is scum if both Allo and Eve are town here, and that usually indicates skitt scum.

[nomnomnom]

The thing is that if I vote skitt right now it's going to cause a 1v1 gamestate and I'm likely to lose the 1v1 and if we're both town that's a very bad gamestate to induce on purpose.
I'm just pondering things really, I'd go on a 1v1 if I was 1v1 convinced, but I am not.
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