Newbie 2003: Earth [game over!]

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 1.02

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

enomis

(1): DkKoba

Clemency

(1): enomis

DkKoba

(1): midwaybear

Maduisha

(1): Apogee

midwaybear

(1): Ydrasse

Not Voting

(4): RandaAlzifahri, Lij00, Clemency, Maduisha

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-05-15 10:45:00).

Mod notes:

• RandaAlzifahri and Lij00 have (expired on 2020-05-06 12:30:56) to confirm their role before I start looking for replacements.

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[enomis]

@Datsi:

Was I hallucinating or was your avatar blue in colour before.

[midwaybear]

Yeah, it was in a different color tone before. I think it was blue and green.

[Datisi]

@Datsi:

Was I hallucinating or was your avatar blue in colour before.

You were not hallucinating, it was different. Monochromatic avatars like these are the newest fad. I don't know how long I'll keep it, though.

Also my name is Datisi.

[Clemency]

Huh? Then which part was made up.

when i started going after dkkoba

[DkKoba]

Official Vote Count 1.02

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

enomis

(1): DkKoba

Clemency

(1): enomis

DkKoba

(1): midwaybear

Maduisha

(1): Apogee

midwaybear

(1): Ydrasse

Not Voting

(4): RandaAlzifahri, Lij00, Clemency, Maduisha

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-05-15 10:45:00).

Mod notes:

• RandaAlzifahri and Lij00 have (expired on 2020-05-06 12:30:56) to confirm their role before I start looking for replacements.

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clemency is town

[Apogee]

Spoiler: Enomis Post 65

Spoiler: Apogee post 64

I've been reading back through the thread, and although I don't feel I have solid reads a few things stood out.

I just keep thinking about the pretty quick 3 person wagon on Enomis that then Clemency withdrew from. Clemency's withdrawal could be a scum move to not be seen as wagoning too hard too early? But I'm not sure it really makes more sense for him to withdraw as a maf than as a town who just didn't want a big push yet. Feel like I still need to see more to make a firm guess on the individual players involved, but either way something with the whole early votes for Enomis feels weird.

Obviously want to see the other 2 players/their replacements. Although it could be a time zone or schedule thing I would like to hear more from Maduisha, who contributed very quickly to that above wagon, answered one question, and hasn't posted since. Again, I don't have scumreads on anyone but think there is something to this situation.

I'll probably not be on much longer tonight but will take another read tomorrow morning.

I think you are thinking too much into the wagon. Clemency and Maduisha votes were RVS. DkKoba pushed the wagon because he thought I was scummy. What was weird for you about this wagon?

Yeah, I'm probably thinking too much about it but the specific part that I'm hung up on is DkKoba joining it, Clemency almost immediately leaving it, and them then arguing about that move for a page. Feels like someone there has a deeper motive? I'm not really sure how to take Clemency's recent claim that they were just testing a strategy with the whole DkKoba argument.

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In other areas, I have a mild suspicion on midwaybear. Feels like they are posting just enough to avoid looking like they aren't posting but they haven't offered many opinions. The slightly weird backtrack between posts 58 and 60 on the townblocks has me as well. "what is a scumblock anyways?" doesn't read super genuine to me.

I'll move my vote to VOTE: midwaybear for now.

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clemency is town

Want to elaborate? Saw your post while typing mine up and I'd love to hear the reasoning.

[Datisi]

Looking for replacements for RandaAlzifahri and Lij00.

[midwaybear]

It's something DK does. pretty normal for DK, so I'm not too concerned about it
@Apogee I don't know why you are commenting on my supposed lack of opinions when we don't even have everyone here yet. Your thoughts about my townblock comments seem to be more off of gut than logic, so yeah.

[Datisi]

joqiza replaces RandaAlzifahri, awaiting confirmation.

[joqiza]

test

[joqiza]

oops, sorry didn't think i would actually post lol

[joqiza]

Um, hopefully, I'm not breaking any rules by posting already. I've confirmed so I think I'm allowed to but it's my first forum game on Mafiascum, so. I do have some experience with forum games, but on the site epicmafia dot com where I've played with DkKoba. Looking forward to the game.

[DkKoba]

JOQIZA LMAO HI

[Maduisha]

Welcome to the game! We only need one more replacement and we're ready to fully play the game. As you can see, there aren't many posts, so hopefully you'll catch up and give us some insight of what you think soon.

[joqiza]

Lmfao hi Dk

And yeah, will catch up in a couple hours and let you know my thoughts. Or maybe sooner although I'm technically supposed to be working right now >__>

[DkKoba]

also didnt mean to quote but ya, clemency towntold and I'm not lynching them today. Theres another slot im interested in rn and I'm gonna start pushing on them soon

[Clemency]

i did?

[midwaybear]

hmm

[Maduisha]

Theres another slot im interested in rn and I'm gonna start pushing on them soon

I'm sorry if answering this sort of ruins some aspect of the push you had planned, but why announce it like this? So far I find your content to be pretty towny, but this pinged me a bit because in my experience, people that post about how they're going to do things later are usually scum.

I get that you might not have the time to do it right now, but I want to understand the purpose of announcing the push beforehand.

[DkKoba]

Oh no its not about the time but the announcement allows me to get a reaction from the slot I want to push

[Maduisha]

Ah, gotcha... I hope I didn't ruin the momentum for that, but I feel like I might have.

[DkKoba]

oh no you didn't VOTE: Maduisha

[Maduisha]

That's fun, I guess. I get bored easily when I'm not the protagonist.

May I ask what's on your mind?

[joqiza]

Alright, I've reread and I'm ready to play. I'm still getting used to the new interface here, so going to apologize in advance for badly formatted posts.

I usually hardpush one player at a time, but tbh this game seems a bit slower-paced than what I'm used to, so I'm gonna try to get a couple balls rolling at once.

First, I don't think clemency scumslipped. I followed the logic, but it's a huge reach. I often address players who's alignment I'm not sure of as though they are town, I just intuitively like giving people the benefit of the doubt. In general, I'm hesitant to try to determine someone's alignment based on individual lines. This is a lesson I've learned recently, but these sorts of "slips" don't end up being as alignment-indicative as I used to think, and I'm trying to move towards more holistic assessments of players and slots. With that in mind, I actually think clemency is pretty towny based on the opening pages. Rn I wanna hear from enomis on that.

The second thing is, the most questionable post I saw on re-read was probably #66 by Maduisha. I’m gonna quote some of the lines from that post:
[referring to a TR on clemency]: “this slot stays null for me as I don't find his content to be alignment indicative, but I'm getting slight town vibes from it and I want to see more”
[referring to a TR on Ydrasse]: “Ydrasse looks town for me. I know it's early to say this, but I get a gut feeling from her posts. Maybe it's because we seem to coincide in opinion about stuff right now and I'm being a bit biased.”
[referring to a TR on DkKoba]: “DkKoba seems to really want to get the game moving, which is a good thing, so I'm townleading him right now too.”
It’s kind of wild to me to have three TR’s on page 3 of a forum game, but more than that I find the way the reads are phrased really questionable. There’s a sort of hedging tone w.r.t. each of the three reads and honestly I’ve just seen lines like this from scum players. The one in Ydrasse in particular, the sort of “hivemind” read has always been really weak to me. Like, someone outed the same general read at the same time as you, so you TR them? Idk just feels ingenuine.