Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[Drixx]

You're either:

1.) Making a supreme logical fallacy in ascribing motive to my play style. There's nearly 20 years of games between here and my home site that back up the fact that I play as much as I have time for. I don't super frequently join a game and then lack for time (generally when I'm busy I don't sign up: see my long absence prior to a couple months ago for example)... but activity and engagement are never AI for me.

OR

2.) Scum intentionally trying to make me look sinister.


The point still remains that I was more interested in why VD seemed to just take it at face value. I wasn't even really attempting to engage you and yet you've gotten yourself pretty worked up.

[Vecna]

You clearly have time to read it the thread and stay up to date. And yet you've responded today roughly with two statements, one that you have a gut feeling that BM is scum and the second insinuating things about me without directly trying to say things yourself.

And your focus on trying to appear all proper by presenting what im doing as two objectively terrible boxes is looking sinister enough on its own, without me needing to try to make it look any particular way

You had fun putting Pine in the trap after he was calling you out?

[Vecna]

##vote Drixx

[Vecna]

VOTE: Drixx

syntax mixup

[Drixx]

Again you make assumptions you shouldn't. Skimming the thread because I don't have time to read deeply isn't really "reading the thread" for me.

So like ... by all means see if you can drive a mislynch on me, but you'll pay for it.

[BBmolla]

I’ve already claimed and can’t get to this game till tomorrow so if you wagon and wanna hammer go ahead idc

[Battle Mage]

MorningTweet, I didn't discredit you, you discredited yourself. I don't care about you beating this dead horse, everyone else has moved on. are you going to vote for somebody? or do anything besides be a cheerleader for ABR? I'll settle for the pretense of scumhunting.

(一ω一)

you make me want to take a dozen naps

Spoiler: Beating a dead horse

only just noticed this.

Why are you so sure ABR is town?

This is probably the best way i can put it BM. if he is scum he is a good actor

I don't believe you. You've always maintained he was town: when he was acting erratic, when he was acting stable, angry, happy, indifferent.

@BM You only find me scummy because you think ABR is so confirmed scum that anyone defending him must be doing so disingenuously. I'm finding it increasingly pointless to try and debate with you

You said Vecna's position reflected yours.
It doesn't - you never thought ABR was scummy.
Therefore you didn't read what Vecna said, and just used it to defend ABR because it was the nearest thing available and all you are concerned with is defending ABR at all costs.

Therefore, you aren't really thinking and engaging with this - you're simply plucking things at random to defend him, even when there's no need!

No, i quoted the part where vecna said that ABR would have to be a really good actor if he is scum

Which i totally agree with. You are trying your very best to discredit my position not wanting to vote ABR because you literally cannot see any situation other than A.) im scum or B.) i lack critical reasoning and just go with what other people think

MorningTweet, I didn't discredit you, you discredited yourself. I don't care about you beating this dead horse, everyone else has moved on. are you going to vote for somebody? or do anything besides be a cheerleader for ABR? I'll settle for the pretense of scumhunting.

All im doing is responding to you. why ask me why i think ABR is town or tell me you don't believe im being genuine, if you also feel like we're beating a dead horse? furthermore, i would never participate in an act of animal cruelty

dont try to make me feel like im dragging this issue on and on, and being so terribly useless just to get me on your new bandwagon. it's just sort of annoying at best

i'm specifically

not

asking you about ABR, to try and get you to comment on

anything else

. As I've said already, I don't believe you'd find this difficult as town.

[VaultDweller]

The point still remains that I was more interested in why VD seemed to just take it at face value.

Because vaultdweller is Eric Matthews

[VaultDweller]

VOTE: Drixx

My son clearly knows what he's talking about.

Specifically, I agree with his statement that Drixx is cherrypicking his arguments.

[Blake Belladonna]

Good luck everyone.

[SirCakez]

Blake Belladonna has requested replacement, seeking.

[SirCakez]

Firebringer replaces Blake Belladonna!

[iDanyboy]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Has this been addressed, because I don’t see how a neighbour is a PR in a role madness game.

[Firebringer]

i have been somewhat reading this game. last i looked bbmolla was being pushed and he was very townie.

[Battle Mage]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Has this been addressed, because I don’t see how a neighbour is a PR in a role madness game.

it is true we haven't had any other straight neighbour claims

[Morning Tweet]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Has this been addressed, because I don’t see how a neighbour is a PR in a role madness game.

Considering momo role was neighbour, it's possible

going to reread later but for now:

VOTE: Drixx

[pisskop]

plasmappupper!

[Firebringer]

plasmappupper!

watch out, i have the radiation

[Battle Mage]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Has this been addressed, because I don’t see how a neighbour is a PR in a role madness game.

Considering momo role was neighbour, it's possible

going to reread later but for now:

VOTE: Drixx

erm….momo was scum

If Drixx is scum, I'm considering this the fluke of the year, because there's nothing about his play which suggests we should be lynching him today.

[Morning Tweet]

This game is confirmed Role Madness, there are no Vanilla Townies or Mafia Goons.

Has this been addressed, because I don’t see how a neighbour is a PR in a role madness game.

Considering momo role was neighbour, it's possible

going to reread later but for now:

VOTE: Drixx

erm….momo was scum

If Drixx is scum, I'm considering this the fluke of the year, because there's nothing about his play which suggests we should be lynching him today.

he's also dead, which confirms that neighbour is a possible role in this role madness game, thereby answering iDany's post. so.. yeah

your defense of drixx reminds me of something i could say to you about ABR. as I said i haven't really looked thru yet but my inital lynchpool is something like Drixx/dave/Blake/pisskop/BBMolla

[davesaz]

Pine was essentially just a (double) neighbor too.
Neighbors investigate as "not vanilla". They show up frequently in role madness games.
I don't know why that's something to question, which means to me that people questioning it are themselves suspicious.

[Drixx]

I can confirm I am not just a neighbor.

It's hilarious that people are taking Vecna's claim at face value. There's totally no way in a Saw themed game that the bad guys could possibly have a role that ICs a townie. Also no way that it could be scum "clearing" scum. Totally not worth even thinking about, fo sho.

[Morning Tweet]

I think it's extremely likely that Vault is town from this. The only way Vault is scum is if Vecna and him are together and they planned it. But a cop check on Vecna, Vecna or Vault dying, or them living on for way too long would ruin the gambit and cause two scum to be outted at once. Super risky for not a lot of reward considering we werent pushing either of them on d1/d2

Daniel Matthews (the son) could be Vecna's actual role, or a fakeclaim role, yes. I independently had a townread on Vecna, and I think it's slightly more likely that daniel is an actual role as opposed to a fakeclaim.

So Vault is super high likelihood town, Vecna is decently town but can still be scum.

One thing against Vecna is that scum didn't try to kill him the night after he claimed he had information, but the day got cut short unexpectantly and scum seem to have a predetermined way of choosing victims, so i can let that slide.

[Drixx]

The thing is ... there wasn't any reason for the claim to happen when it did ... which is why I actually took a little time to think about it.

[Vecna]

i have been somewhat reading this game. last i looked bbmolla was being pushed and he was very townie.

How is he different here from doubles mafia?

He ended up scum there as well