Newbie 2003: Earth [game over!]

[votato]

you say that... yet you have me as scum 100%. hi there pot, meet kettle

[Apogee]

DkKoba and Votato: from my POV, would you conclude scum is one of you or the other? If not, why is enomis more scummy?

[Apogee]

As in if I wouldn't conclude the POE is lynching one of you than the other, why not?

[DkKoba]

you say that... yet you have me as scum 100%. hi there pot, meet kettle

you ignored the content of my posts.

you are being purposefully obtuse at this point.

[DkKoba]

DkKoba and Votato: from my POV, would you conclude scum is one of you or the other? If not, why is enomis more scummy?

enomis checked out after d1 and that was when ydrasse started her push on joqiza, which from scum pov was probably an obv cop push.

[DkKoba]

you say that... yet you have me as scum 100%. hi there pot, meet kettle

no i have u as scum 90%.

thanks for playing!

[votato]

you're flipping scum

votato was lynched! votato was a Mafia Goon!

Town wins!

hammer them i want this game to be over

whatever u say mafia goon

oh yeah, super humble here. definitely evaluating various possibilities.

are you even reading your own posts?

[DkKoba]

votato, who was I voting before I voted you.

[DkKoba]

*crickets*

[DkKoba]

votato = frozen scum

[DkKoba]

I'd like to note I have seen votato posting in other games but he failed to post here within the past few hours as of this post. he is 100% frozen.

[votato]

theres no content to respond to here. You haven't said anything

[Maduisha]

is what enomis said town motivated to you votato?

100%. if enomis!scum = true, enomis shows up, makes up an excuse, and hammers. thats super easy, and then he can push for your lynch tomorrow. that post actually only comes from town. enomis is clear. if we just lynch Dk with apogee as a back-up if Dk somehow flips town, we win.

I don't think that Enomis is scum, but you do understand this is as wifom as it gets, right? You can never assume scum wants to quickhammer, in fact they can wait out the hammer to try to look towny like Joqiza did. Especially if they're not one of the hammer targets at the moment. And a player can be town and quickhammer in this situation because they think there's not more to add and that still doesn't make them scum, just reckless. I'm all for you backing up your reads, but using wifomy hypotheticals like this makes them pretty flimsy, I hope you understand.

your lack of self-vote means you're lying.

how about this. lets lynch apogee today. that flip will give us 100% certainty about each other if it flips town.

Was this a reaction test to see if DK would bite the bait proposal or were you serious? I'm guessing you can answer now since they have already rejected it.

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 3.04

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With 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Lynching

votato

(2): Maduisha, DkKoba

DkKoba

(1): votato

Not Voting

(2): Apogee, enomis

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-05-30 13:10:00).

Mod notes:

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[DkKoba]

enomis where the FUCK are you. this is a joke.

votato I directly asked you something and you sailed right over it, you got caught in a lie and are trying to ignore it. And you were caught in lies multiple times d1. I was willing to overlook it as stupid town gambit shit because frankly ive done the same as town before so I understand but you're just straight up refusing to address it at this point.

[votato]

You aren't arguing in good faith. Step away and re- evaluate

[DkKoba]

oh seriously fuck off with that and answer my question about who i voted previously

[enomis]

Ok I am here. Let's do this.

Anyway before I start:

there's at least 1 scum between emonis + midway and I know it. I'll delete my account if I' wrong about that.

I happen to see this again and just wanna remind DkKoba of this if DkKoba is not scum.

[DkKoba]

Ok I am here. Let's do this.

Anyway before I start:

there's at least 1 scum between emonis + midway and I know it. I'll delete my account if I' wrong about that.

I happen to see this again and just wanna remind DkKoba of this if DkKoba is not scum.

It's reaction test AtE courtesy of EM

[votato]

what kind of reactions did you get? what did you learn?

[DkKoba]

I'm not answering you until you answer my question.

[votato]

apogee.

[enomis]

Now let's get to where I find problem with DkKoba's logic.

First I have no problem with the gambit as doc trying to draw the kill from scum.
Unlike votato, The hard claim of doctor and backtracking could still be from town is still NAI because I can see DkKoba doing this as a reaction test.

But What I have problem with is his response and logic after the reaction test:
1)

Logic not consistent

His post straight after.

3. enomis if I was the docotor I am a very likely roleblock target. I am probably speaking from EM experience but your explaination is better than votato's "lol youre not doc".

And his post a few posts later:

if scum somehow was ballsy enough to get a doc read and roleblock-kill cop then i applaud them but doc would still know they were known and it would stilll work as a rxn test.

Shows that he is not even consistent in his thinking of reaction test. If DkKoba is trying to do a reaction test, I will think his mindset and logic would be a lot more consistent.

2)

Didn't think through his reaction test plan.

I do not believe anyone else doc told this game that is why I would challenge another doc claim and go all the way and get them lynched.

The reason why DkKoba didn't think through the plan is a scumtell is where it usually is NAI is because DkKoba will think about what should happen if a doctor was to cc him.
Instead a scum would know that there is no doctor and thus be caught not thinking it through and have to give me a response on the spot.
So here's why the logic is wrong.
a) Would a doctor really doctor tell? Isn't it a doctor role to stay hidden?
b) The doctor that cc'ed him can be a town doctor but he said that he will tunnel the cced doctor to death and lynch him

Here's why the doctor could be town.
i) The doctor could be protecting another person since he thought that SCUM WON'T KILL YDRASSE if there is a doctor.
ii) Given that DkKoba believes that scum will roleblock the doctor, from his pov, there is a chance that the doctor was really roleblocked and cop was killed.
iii) This is literally the

reason

that DKkoba gave on his reaction test.

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The above is the logic portion. Then there is his other posts.

He calls me scum at one moment. Then call me having no content at the other moment. There is literally no consistent flow of thought here.
Also, he said he is re-evaluating everyone but he didn't even consider Apogee. He keeps mentioning enomis/votato because he thinks that this two are the easy lynch.
Also, his thought inconsistency in DAY 1 which I have pointed out is still there despite him not answering it.

I can also see some post which I get abit of gut town feel from them.

But honestly, the scum points just really outweight the town points.

Also, Because I have Votato and Maduisha as town, this really strengthens my scumread on DkKoba as it is either him/Apogee.

I am still paranoid about apogee tbh because I can see a world where dkkoba is not scum and I am killed tonight. Tomorrow, votato will be lynched.

[enomis]

Also Dkkoba, your new avatar really looks like maduisha's avatar and I keep thinking it's her. =.=

[votato]

every time Dk gets called out for something scummy he says its a reaction test. but not a single bit of information has been shared from any of the supposed reaction tests.