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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:27 pm

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In post 644, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 621, VP Baltar wrote:Now is when things start to get more interesting. Auro's vote and then quick abandonment is a HUGE scumtell. I was a mildly up and coming wagon and he saw that as he was facing pressure. His reason for voting me was "gut" townread on Green Crayons, whose wagon happened to be waning. I took time to give him an opportunity to explain something I was missing there, but clearly my initial twinge was right, hence the vote.
So this piqued my curiosity the most out of your wagon analysis. Can you tease it out more, because Auro jumped on to a VP vote and then seemed to get distracted by farside--rather than it appearing to reflect AI on his VP vote.
Vp comment about auro is pretty hypocritical considering he voted auro while his wagon was building.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:30 pm

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In post 650, farside22 wrote:
In post 644, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 621, VP Baltar wrote:Now is when things start to get more interesting. Auro's vote and then quick abandonment is a HUGE scumtell. I was a mildly up and coming wagon and he saw that as he was facing pressure. His reason for voting me was "gut" townread on Green Crayons, whose wagon happened to be waning. I took time to give him an opportunity to explain something I was missing there, but clearly my initial twinge was right, hence the vote.
So this piqued my curiosity the most out of your wagon analysis. Can you tease it out more, because Auro jumped on to a VP vote and then seemed to get distracted by farside--rather than it appearing to reflect AI on his VP vote.
Vp comment about auro is pretty hypocritical considering he voted auro while his wagon was building.
Not hypocritical at all given I have an actual reason and have explained it numerous times now.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:30 pm

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In post 640, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 633, Hoopla wrote:
In post 631, VP Baltar wrote:I tend to get scum read a lot as either alignment. I think it's my face.
i used to have a terrible case of resting-scumface too. i have since learnt to let the purity of my town essence flow through me.
I'll try to reach my inner gwyneth paltrow going forward.
Try it in the next game when you get a town role pm
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 642, Morning Tweet wrote:ABR always does this. How am i supposed to read him, he's basically just saying he knows who scum is and is yelling for everyone to help him over and over again. I have played with ABR on both sides though, hopefully i can be more useful and figure him out sometime. Our town games were kind of weird though and he played way differently in both of them, the common thing between both of them was that he just repeats the same idea over and over again though lol
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 641, farside22 wrote:Reread vp long post he stated he switched read to follow blair and get a better read.
I dont see from his unvote and attitude towards blair after the sheeping as trying to figure blair out.
Then all vp said about auro was in the 2 quoted post, which is barely a reason to scum read or vote someone. Just looks like voting the next biggest wagon thats not his.
i don't really agree with this. saying vpb has to do xyz to "try to figure blair out" makes it sound kind of like a homework assignment. i just played vpb and blair in the same game, i think vpb is approaching with a little caution and common sense, he's probably not working out this read with all the steps shown so the teacher can check for mistakes. so to me it looks like town thinking even if it's quiet thinking
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:36 pm

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find it interesting that hoopla described her null / don't lynch reads more than her town reads and scum reads. i think that's a kind of weak town tell because anything that isn't strictly "by the book" is more likely to be town than scum faking it
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 655, CantHateAPuppy wrote:find it interesting that hoopla described her null / don't lynch reads more than her town reads and scum reads. i think that's a kind of weak town tell because anything that isn't strictly "by the book" is more likely to be town than scum faking it
all my town reads i've talked about in earlier posts.

my main objective of that post was to clarify my non-town reads and construct my lynchpool.

now that i have figured out who i actually want to lynch from, i'll be breaking out the microscope. i feel like i don't have the stamina to properly scrutinise every slot on D1 in games this size, so some sort of filtering process is necessary to know where to focus. i think i am zeroed in now.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:00 pm

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i think you're wrong about blair but the rest of your lynchpool seems full of nulls to me. id ask you to elaboreate on those, but you make it sound like that's exactly what you're going to do. i'm not sure what the point of this post is
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 657, CantHateAPuppy wrote:i think you're wrong about blair but the rest of your lynchpool seems full of nulls to me. id ask you to elaboreate on those, but you make it sound like that's exactly what you're going to do. i'm not sure what the point of this post is
- who are your actual scumreads/townreads?
- why are you asking me to elaborate, when you've offered less explanation for reads than me?

i had memories of you chiming in with useful/interesting comments, but upon a reread of your ISO, i think i was premature in discounting you as a good lynch.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:13 pm

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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:15 pm

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the ol' puppy dog eyes, huh?

cuteness only gets you so far in this game!
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:16 pm

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i have blair / starbuck / hoopla / abr / vpb as townreads. i don't have any strong scumreads, i think most of the discussions so far are in that forced stage and i don't feel like inventing any reads. it's easier to townhunt than scumhunt imo. so far most of the wagon interactions strike me as pretty natural early misconcepts, which leans me toward reading them as town. nothing jumping out so i'm figuring out what to do with my vote rn
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:17 pm

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In post 660, Hoopla wrote:the ol' puppy dog eyes, huh?

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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 661, CantHateAPuppy wrote:i have blair / starbuck / hoopla / abr / vpb as townreads. i don't have any strong scumreads, i think most of the discussions so far are in that forced stage and i don't feel like inventing any reads. it's easier to townhunt than scumhunt imo. so far most of the wagon interactions strike me as pretty natural early misconcepts, which leans me toward reading them as town. nothing jumping out so i'm figuring out what to do with my vote rn
Hard agree with the townhunting idea, the forced discussion and what not. do you know why you like blair, in particular?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:23 pm

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to be honest, 17p is a little big for me so im taking this a little quietly. id rather have a few good interactions than try to immediately sort the game and force a lot of opinions it'll just be a lot of work to overcome later. my natural towniness will shine through and as long as i can sort a few players correctly, i don't feel the need to be town leader or drive every conversation

pedit: i like blair because in her last game she also liked to drive early on contradictions and sort of "force" confrontation. i just think that's who she is, and so far this feels authentic to me. like, if it's fake, it's a town fake iykwis
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:30 pm

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In post 664, CantHateAPuppy wrote:to be honest,
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:31 pm

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to be honest, im not really a puppy :(
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:32 pm

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I'm going to try to do a deep read of this tonight.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 664, CantHateAPuppy wrote:pedit: i like blair because in her last game she also liked to drive early on contradictions and sort of "force" confrontation. i just think that's who she is, and so far this feels authentic to me. like, if it's fake, it's a town fake iykwis
Have you compared this to scum Blair before? I would agree with your premise on how I perceived town Blair, but I haven't heard how she plays as scum before.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 666, CantHateAPuppy wrote:to be honest, im not really a puppy :(
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:43 pm

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In post 668, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 664, CantHateAPuppy wrote:pedit: i like blair because in her last game she also liked to drive early on contradictions and sort of "force" confrontation. i just think that's who she is, and so far this feels authentic to me. like, if it's fake, it's a town fake iykwis
Have you compared this to scum Blair before? I would agree with your premise on how I perceived town Blair, but I haven't heard how she plays as scum before.
i wouldn't know, i haven't played blair as scum, and tbh if someone linked a blair scum game i probably wouldn't bother reading it. i just think making conflict is in her style and i'm not going to scumread that when i think there's a decent town motivation behind it.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:11 pm

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ABR, do you think Auro is scum or town?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:13 pm

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I am stunned that anyone is scumreading me for pushing Starbuck too hard, because I've been waiting for someone to scumread me for not pushing her hard enough any moment now.

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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:13 pm

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In post 671, VP Baltar wrote:ABR, do you think Auro is scum or town?
I like his vote on you then he OMGUS farside so i think hes scummy
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:17 pm

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