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Auro Survivor
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wow you are so witty!In post 8648, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Wut? Do you like, have to ask your parents permission before you vote to make sure it's okay or what?In post 8647, OkaPoka wrote:intent to vote gobbles-
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Otherwise what?In post 8650, Auro wrote:Pisskop says otherwise, though?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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LicketyQuickety Survivor
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Oka claimed that if he tries to cure someone and they are not Infected that they become Infected. There's a lot of BSery surrounding Oka that I don't particularly like.In post 8653, Auro wrote:Didn't he claim that he can't infect?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
You was doided teh aposit_tisopa het dedoid saw em.-
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Auro Survivor
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Yes, I've posted a couple times about the discrepancy. I don't know if this means there are multiple varieties of infection, or if pisskop is lying about it.In post 8653, Auro wrote:Didn't he claim that he can't infect?
It benefits scum to make infected seem less dangerous. In a world where scum know that the wagon choices are between town and infected there is strong motivation to push for "scum lynches" on players they know to not be scum. They are shielded from repercussions by the appearance of doing something town motivated. I think town have been far too complacent on relying on a cure and allowing the semi-obvious and quite frankly to be expected "disease spread" mechanic to be downplayed.
I'm starting to talk myself into a yolo push on pisskop. He's one of the strongest suspects if you look at this from the angle of pushing that infected are harmless. At least going by memory he's the one I remember the most doing that.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Why did you take this pisskop discussion and morph it into an Oka discussion?In post 8654, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Oka claimed that if he tries to cure someone and they are not Infected that they become Infected. There's a lot of BSery surrounding Oka that I don't particularly like.In post 8653, Auro wrote:Didn't he claim that he can't infect?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Auro Survivor
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But if all infected people could infect, wouldn't it have exploded by this point? We're just consistently seeing one infect per day, except for the time we saw 2.-
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Auro Survivor
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Also, can someone quote Alchemist's crumb - because I missed that?-
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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Given the flips it might be blind luck that it hasn't exploded.In post 8658, Auro wrote:But if all infected people could infect, wouldn't it have exploded by this point? We're just consistently seeing one infect per day, except for the time we saw 2.
There were at least 4 people who infected couldn't pass it on to (3 scum and a social distancer) so far. Plus the chance of hitting already infected.
I don't disagree with the possibility of there being two or more kinds of infected. I brought up that possibility to begin with.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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LicketyQuickety Survivor
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It wasn't "away from" Piss. I would probably lynch Piss at this point. I was just trying to show Oka is up to some smelly things and I'd rather put some pressure there before it's too late.In post 8657, davesaz wrote:
Why did you take this pisskop discussion and morph it into an Oka discussion?In post 8654, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Oka claimed that if he tries to cure someone and they are not Infected that they become Infected. There's a lot of BSery surrounding Oka that I don't particularly like.In post 8653, Auro wrote:Didn't he claim that he can't infect?
I just kinda feel awkward about Piss in general. Like, he's not particularly active, reason suggests he's AT LEAST Infected, but something is holding me back and I am not really sure what that is. His overall presence itt is actually not bad. He's come out and said some boldish things that I think fair him well. Still, by the numbers, he looks to be pretty ugly. The thing is, A50 was ugly too, by the numbers.
FL was bad. I felt their claim was bat shit crazy, but afaik the replacement, Maxwell, hasn't really said a damn thing about his pred and I really don't know how to read that at all. I would have expected a, "Hey my pred was weird, could we like just toss out everything he has said and call it a wash since it IS FL and all?" Still, their points have been good and I would hate to lynch a slot like that with good content. Do we read them based on the pred or not? I really don't know.
Where do you stand on FL?I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
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Auro Survivor
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Strains of viruses. I like that idea.In post 8660, davesaz wrote:I don't disagree with the possibility of there being two or more kinds of infected. I brought up that possibility to begin with.
I think the average case being one where it explodes makes little sense from a game design perspective, though. How would you go about balancing a setup that swings exponentially?-
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Because Gobbles claimed that. I no longer believe that claim, but that claim was what my Gobbles is Town theory was based on. As for the crumb, I'm too lazy to grab the quote, but Alchemist asked for him to claim if he was infected and that he would heal him. That's when Gobbles kinda sorta claimed by linking topical music.In post 8646, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why do you think Gobble is PGO?In post 8450, Radical Rat wrote:Okay, somehow I completely missed that post. And that was toDay so... Guess I was wrong.
It looked to me like Alchemist was crumbing gobbles as his target, and yesterDay gobbles mentioned having a PGO shot as part of the JoAT claim. So when Alchemist died, AND we got a new infection, I immediately assumed that meant instead of that death being scum's NK, it was gobbles' PGO being triggered.
But yeah, claiming "not not scum" kind of shuts that theory down, so...
VOTE: gobbledygook
Also, why would Alch crumb Gobble when Gobble hadn't actually claimed infected yet?-
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Auro Survivor
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And then Gobbles kills Alch, instead of acting like he's cured today and Alch confirming having targeted him?-
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You say this, but why wouldn't you quote something from Oka, or just make your point without the pisskop-related quote?In post 8661, LicketyQuickety wrote:It wasn't "away from" Piss. I would probably lynch Piss at this point. I was just trying to show Oka is up to some smelly things and I'd rather put some pressure there before it's too late.
I'll respond to the other parts of your post separately.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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LicketyQuickety Survivor
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To show where I had read to.In post 8665, davesaz wrote:
You say this, but why wouldn't you quote something from Oka, or just make your point without the pisskop-related quote?In post 8661, LicketyQuickety wrote:It wasn't "away from" Piss. I would probably lynch Piss at this point. I was just trying to show Oka is up to some smelly things and I'd rather put some pressure there before it's too late.
I'll respond to the other parts of your post separately.I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!
You was doided teh aposit_tisopa het dedoid saw em.-
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LicketyQuickety Survivor
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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FL felt odd all game, but I have struggled with figuring out whether it was "usual odd" or "unusual odd".In post 8661, LicketyQuickety wrote:FL was bad. I felt their claim was bat shit crazy, but afaik the replacement, Maxwell, hasn't really said a damn thing about his pred and I really don't know how to read that at all. I would have expected a, "Hey my pred was weird, could we like just toss out everything he has said and call it a wash since it IS FL and all?" Still, their points have been good and I would hate to lynch a slot like that with good content. Do we read them based on the pred or not? I really don't know.
Where do you stand on FL?
The role makes sense for the flavor, but Flavor is a setup guru and could have fabricated a fake role that makes perfect sense.
Maxwell going along with the claim tells us almost nothing. If it's a scum fakeclaim it was almost certainly hashed out in the scum thread and maxwell therefore would have a reference to follow. If it's a true claim then he has the role PM to work from regardless of alignment.
We have to read the slot by its reads and votes. Is there a thread to follow and does that thread show town motivation, or is it just going with the flow without any accountability.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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davesaz HeSurvivorHe
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I didn't read it quite that way, unless it was in a different place.In post 8654, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Oka claimed that if he tries to cure someone and they are not Infected that they become Infected.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Nero Cain Survivor
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if I were to assume no scum gambits I wonder what I'd come up with. I'll let you know in a bitOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit-
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Nero Cain Survivor
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former infected
pisskop
davesaz
maxwell?
currently infected or lying about it
clidd
gobbledygook
maxwell?
players that I think are infected
Hoctac
OkaPoka
n1-piss
n3-gobble?
n4-dave
n4-clidd/oka?
n5-hoctac
ofc I'm making some assumptions here. Any way you slice it though, I think there are to many players claiming infected to actually be infected therefore someone is lying somewhere.
Clidd and/or maxwell are prob groupscum. If they are both scum or the 2 group scum are some combination of fake claiming infection then maybe there's only a single scum between
2. Auro
6. Aristophanes
7. LicketyQuickety
8. Radical Rat
20. Firebringer
and I kinda lean FB
so a preliminary solve might be fire/clidd/oka/hotac/gobble/maxwell
@ ppl thoughts?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit-
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VOTE: aristophanesShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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