SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Auro]

Hi Clidd! pity you had to leave our last game.

[Auro]

Which post of Nahdia could that be tho?

[Auro]

"Went after Pisskop with my track" is pretty cut and dry in meaning.

"Went after Pisskop with my track result" is how I interpreted it, I'll look up Nahdia posts - if she was suspecting Pisskop D1 then I think my dear turkey hath slipp'd

[Auro]

Yup they did tunnel. It'll be funny if Gob actually ends up being town with the memory of a bird lulz

[Auro]

If Nahdia wasn't even pushing Pisskop D1 then it wouldn't make sense and the "track result" interpretation would probably be correct, but Nahdia was tunneling that slot on D1, so he was talking out of his ass

[Auro]

It is a sensation with a NAI reason. There is a scum-base among the players who have not been replaced at any time and I feel that it is potentially him, but I don't see it turning the game in isolation, even if I'm right. Just by looking at the passage of time with the impossibility of consolidating into a scum lynch is enough to make me think that part of yesterday's discussions were theaters and that scums with a high camouflage capacity have already adapted to the game.

Lmao, good ol' infected trolling.

[Auro]

What I'm curious about is why Gob posts today like he had a guilty and then squawks off. Like... as scum, just declare the guilty, no? Many people weren't really scumreading him anyway

There's a good chance he could have been infected as a result of the tracker claim, but I don't think he'd make that slip that way

[Auro]

gobble just being really really bad @ posting is a thing that crossed my mind.

To be fair I wouldn't really blame him, this is a large game with a majority replacing, even multiple times, and nothing really happening over 300 pages. Hard to keep remembering everything properly

[Auro]

I mean that's even assuming he has a guilty. There's a lot of reason to believe he just said it to see reactions?

We shouldn't mass today

[Auro]

I think he's the correct lynch in any case tho

[Auro]

We already have two effective claimed doctors. We have one leashed to Clidd. We don't want to out other useful roles.

[Auro]

Gobbles/Auro/{fb, cheeky}

I like this atm. A lot.

I wish I could speak about somethings, but I can't

[Auro]

I keep typing "Clodd" and I figure that's too insulting

[Auro]

Gob is the correct lynch but I want to go for Oka or Cheeky

[Auro]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky
Ok, cool

[Auro]

Join the wagon, let's have some momentum going.

[Auro]

Join Cheeky Alch

[Auro]

We have 3 infected slots discounting piskop right?

[Auro]

Oh wow Hoctac disappeared too

[Auro]

Way too many people playing like infected for the number of slots

[Auro]

I mean scum *are* lurking, makes them look infected and thus an undesirable lynch.

[Auro]

Flavor, join the Cheeky wagon. Let's get scum out to play.

[Auro]

{Oka, Cheeky, Fire, Gobbles, Hoctac} all these people aren't playing today. If Alch was infected I don't even think he'd be this active.

[Auro]

Sure in tgat case let's wagon Gobbles?

[Auro]

I don't want to dick around with fragmented votes till deadline approaches while scum just lurk away knowing they're getting a near guaranteed victory no matter what happens. At least if we build momentum somewhere we'll make some progress.

[Auro]

I'm not going to give up. Scum should wish they had infected me

[Auro]

Momentum.
VOTE: Gobbles

Join this now?

[Auro]

Like 5 of us are active. Clidd won't be voting because he's infected. FL, Ari, Alch, Nero, join me.

[Auro]

The active posters are almost all town. Scum won't be calling attention to themselves. Nero is town Alch, trust me

[Auro]

VOTE: Cheeky
Ok switch now then.

[Auro]

Nero is scum and doing what?

[Auro]

Nero has been reasonable for the most part my man

[Auro]

If Alch is infected he'd be against voting anyone in that pool tbh

[Auro]

If he and Piss planned that whole "cure" gambit with those exact interactions and hood claims, I am cool with them winning for it mega unlikely.

[Auro]

But there's high chances. I'm pretty sure infected just wait around to see what's going on.

[Auro]

I'm with you:
{Gobbles, Cheeky, Oka, Fire}
{Hoctac, Dave} {RR}
{Clidd} one of the three infected
{Pisskop} ex infected, currently cured

RR seems like he'd be active to some part even as scum.

This covers it, I think?

[Auro]

I feel like TSE's fake AtE is scum indicative but you guys say he does that as town.

[Auro]

Ari is could still be groupscum who popped in for some activity when he saw us suspecting him actually

[Auro]

it's hard to tell infected scum from OG scum. I think there's a super reasonable chance that Alch just is infected.

This exactly why scum would just sort of take a free pass to lurk out today, sadly.

[Auro]

Ari is could still be groupscum who popped in for some activity when he saw us suspecting him actually

I think as long as Ari votes with us on Gob or Cheeky he gets a pass.

[Auro]

I don't think LQ is ever a good infect target by any standard.
Also I don't believe Pisskop would pick up on Alch crumbing that quickly and play along instantly. Even then he claimed infected for a full day, and there was every legitimate chance town would wanna lynch him. You think he believes a "I was cured lmao!" gambit would work on D3 for him?

[Auro]

The simplest explanation looking at their play then is indeed that pk was cured. Gobbles as scum also could just easily claim a track to an infect, maybe thinking that would bring him some towncred?

[Auro]

Don't overthink it Nero, let's just wagon one of them. Alchemist is at worst infected.

[Auro]

VOTE: Gobbles
start it

[Auro]

Lol. Anyone else wanna not vote Gobbles?

[Auro]

VOTE: Cheeky

If y'all do a Gobbles wagon I'll join back.

[Auro]

I believe Auro, Alchemist, Clidd are all infected.

I'm not infected

If I'm infected I don't tryhard at all, I just piss off and do whatever Clidd's doing, "ho hum"ing every once in a while

[Auro]

I think Oka fits infected more than scum? Why would he just openly declare he won't do anything today?

[Auro]

both scum and infected would do that. i think oka is infected b/c miss lynch seemed town, no?

Scum would be more subtle about it, maybe?

[Auro]

We have FL on Clidd, and we need one doc on Oka

[Auro]

Why is LQ voting Nero?

[Auro]

Why does Town!Cheeky want us to think she's Infected?

rEacTiOn tEsT

Nero was implying she was groupscum who wanted us to think that

[Auro]

Then how do you think we're getting multiple infections in one night?

How do you balance against exponential growth?
Infects could be passive (i.e you get infected as a result of targeting X, instead of someone infecting you by doing Y).

[Auro]

I mean Hoctac was implying that*

[Auro]

actually, gobbledy is super anti that. hmm.

Actually not, but I leave this to you to verify.

[Auro]

Gobbles is borderline trolling

[Auro]

What kind of Town motivation can this behavior possibly have?

If scum then he thinks somehow that last ditch teasing is going to distract town or
If infected he's just enjoying himself
If town he's doing a "reaction test"

[Auro]

Cheeky is L-2 in a game with 6~7 scum. Does that suggest anything ?

Scum are doing jack, because they literally don't care who gets lynched, and while they lurk out there's always paranoia about whether they're instead infected

[Auro]

the political positioning earlier day phases.

the pop in, pop out, not doing anything day play today.

Cheeky did this exact same thing in Masons and Mafia

[Auro]

I have one more shot of either bodyguard/cult check/PGO that I may or may not use

Feels like Gobbles is just hard trolling still

[Auro]

I don't think FL infected tries to drive the gamestate

[Auro]

4 hours and Cheeky stills L-2.

And now we called out Gobble for just trolling and teasing town and suddenly he's posting content and going "why Cheeky"

[Auro]

it is. Scum will begin to lose with Cheeky

What about counterwagons? Or are they just hoping that it'll die down if there's no counterwagon

[Auro]

Auro saying I'm OG scum after TMI townreading me on my entrance is obviously scum.

Very silly. Quote my "TMI townread". I said you were pushing in frequent random directions, Nero said you do that as scum too, and then nothing.

And wowza townreading someone and then scumreading them later, amazing scumtell

[Auro]

i feel like cheeky has moved her vote too much to be scum. a50, your thoughts?

Actually that's exactly why I think

she is scum

A50's final read

[Auro]

Cheeky vote Gobbles.

[Auro]

Cheeky gets to L-2:

No one else votes there
Suddenly some slots wake up and start active posting
Cheeky comes back to thread, doesn't read the thread, tries to case me
Pisskop jumps at the opportunity when I ask cheeky to vote Gobbles

[Auro]

It's obvious I'm being targeted as an easy mislynch today. As I said my behaviour today is more indicative of infected not og scum people pushing me as OG scum are intentionally misleading the town esp people who TMI townread me on my first day here. Yes that's you Auro.

If I was og scum I know you're not og scum and I know your change in play would weakly indicate infected so I wouldn't even go after you. you'd be a poor choice for me to go after anyway...

[Auro]

kinda want to lynch auro though

Uhh, I knew Alch was a doc long ago, I would've killed him back then...

[Auro]

VOTE: Gobbles

Squawk

[Auro]

Town Homeopath. I target people to "cure" them but nothing happens.

[Auro]

Just kidding, I'm a VT too

[Auro]

Can the scumteam infect one of their own and lynch them to have them flip "infected" but not the prior alignment?

[Auro]

Popcorn to Nero

[Auro]

are you infected

[Auro]

I stilll love you Oka

[Auro]

Dave? I'm too lazy for that.

[Auro]

ok

[Auro]

[Auro]

Day 2 begins!

An anonymous reporter reports that

one

new infection occurred during the night.

The town wakes up bright and early for the next round of grilling each other over a Zoom conference call. Nothing seems different from the previous day until an anonymous report lands on the mayor office. Someone had managed a way to track the virus's spread and determine the number of new infections. Where this information came from or how it was obtained was not known. All this meant was that the town was one step closer to their doom.

Day 3 begins!

mastina,

Town Vaccinator

, died Night 2.

Spoiler: mastina's Role PM

Welcome, mastina, to SIR Disease Mafia!
You are a

Town Vaccinator

!

Each night, you may attempt to vaccinate a player. If your target does not possess the disease, they become temporarily immune to the disease for two nights excluding the night of vaccination. If your target possesses the disease (including on the night of vaccination), you will kill them instead.

You win when all mafia conspirers and infected players are dead.
Alternatively, you win when a majority of living players gain permanent immunity to the disease.

Confirm by replying with your alignment and role name.

Blair,

Town Frail Partygoer

, died Night 2.

Spoiler: Blair's Role PM

Welcome, momo, to SIR Disease Mafia!
You are a

Town Frail Partygoer

!

Despite your frail nature, you like to attend parties. During pregame, you should send me a list of players. If you ever fail to submit an action, you will attempt to visit the top player on this list that is still alive. You may change this list at any time you wish. Each night, you must attempt to visit a player. You will go out and have a party with them.

If at anytime, you become infected or visit an infected player, you will die due to your frail nature.

You win when all mafia conspirers and infected players are dead.
Alternatively, you win when a majority of living players gain permanent immunity to the disease.

Confirm by replying with your alignment, role name, and list of players.

An anonymous reporter reports that

zero

new infections occurred during the night.

The sun rises signaling the start of another day, and the small town of Plague Town is no closer to solving the mystery than they were on the first day. Once more, an anonymous reporter sent the mayor a detailed report about the virus's spread throughout the town. Though relieved that the rate of infection seemed to have slowed, something strange had happened. Two well-respected members of the town, mastina and Blair, were missing from the Zoom conference call. Fearing the worst, the mayor sends the coroner over to investigate. The coroner confirms the mayor's thoughts: both are dead, and despite the coroner's efforts, the reason they died remains a mystery.

Day 4 begins!

An anonymous reporter reports that

one

new infection occurred during the night.

Another day dawns. Despite feeling that they are making no progress in unraveling the conspiracy, the town's morale remains high. Another report arrives on the mayor's desk noting that a new infection occurred. The mayor sighs and begins the day's Zoom call.

Day 5 begins!

An anonymous reporter reports that

two

new infections occurred during the night.

The sun rises once more, and the mayor begins the daily Zoom call. "I've received another report on the virus, and the details are more shocking than one would believe!" exclaims the mayor. "Indeed, it states that not one, but two (!) new infections occurred during the night!" Another person shouts, "If nothing is done, the entire town will be infected!" Eventually everyone calms down, but one thing is for sure: the town is teetering close to the brink of death.

Day 6 begins!

Alchemist21,

Town Healer

, died Night 5.

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome, Alchemist21, to SIR Disease Mafia!
You are a

Town Healer

!

Each night, you may attempt to heal a player. If they are infected, they will immediately recover and gain permanent immunity to the disease.

You win when all mafia conspirers and infected players are dead.
Alternatively, you win when a majority of living players gain permanent immunity to the disease.

Confirm by replying with your alignment and role name.

An anonymous reporter reports that

one

new infection occurred during the night.

The mayor nervously starts the day's Zoom call fearing that the worst is to come. To his surprise, everything seems pretty much the same as the previous day. Yet something does not feel right... "Where is Alchemist21?" asks one person. "I don't know!" responds another. The mayor decides to send the city's coroner to investigate. The coroner relays the news: Alchemist21 was found dead in his bed with the cause of death unknown.

Later that morning, the mayor receives a message. It's the reporter reporting the number of new infections that occurred. "Just one today? Maybe we will survive this yet."

Total infected: 1+0+1+2+1 = 5
Total cured claims: Pisskop, Davesaz, Flavor
So there are 2 infects unaccounted for. If anyone else has been infected and cured, now is the time to claim it.

[Auro]

I would've stayed on her even with her claim, to be honest. Gobbles quickhammered her and "crumbed" infected.

[Auro]

I'm lying about what exactly now? O.o

[Auro]

Day 5 VC #7

Auro (1): CheekyTeeky (7950)

Aristophanes (1): Firebringer (7778)

LicketyQuickety (0):

Radical Rat (0):

CheekyTeeky (6) (L-2): Nero Cain (7795), Aristophanes (7804), Alchemist21 (7908), Auro (7958), Flavor Leaf (7960), clidd (7970)

Alchemist21 (0):

gobbledygook (2): Radical Rat (7697), pisskop (7949)

Nero Cain (1): LicketyQuickety ([post]7753/post])

Firebringer (0):

pisskop (0):

Not Voting (4): davesaz, Hoctac, OkaPoka, gobbledygook

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on June 22, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-06-22 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2:

Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity on Tuesday-Friday.

3: I'm still modding this game on mobile as I can't get my computer to connect to the site.

You weren't even on Gobsie in the next VC, Hoctac.

[Auro]

Oh, I forgot about Clidd. That's one infection left to account for, then?

[Auro]

I am the most consistent scum player on site

This is a lie. I believe that

I

am the most consistent scum player on site.

[Auro]

Why weren't you voting him?

[Auro]

I finally got my hard bus my whole team, then win the game in 3p lylo victory I’ve wanted. I’ve done all there is to do.

Can you bus your partners now? We'll all promise not to vote you in LyLo.

[Auro]

Self meta is Scummy...

I always do self-meta though, so my self-meta on self-meta makes self-meta not scummy.

[Auro]

what if I replace into a scum slot when you're already dead 3:)

[Auro]

Scum can get infected too, no?

[Auro]

Say what now? Pork?

[Auro]

I thought Gob but the past tense threw me off, cause we didn't lynch yet

[Auro]

"Wouldn't be lynching"?
And yea

[Auro]

Why do you think Gob is town?

[Auro]

UNVOTE:

[Auro]

He town blocc'd me though

[Auro]

Not necessarily, but it's incorrect that he's been pushing me most of the game.

[Auro]

That's a weird af trajectory though... like he makes the weakest ass push on me that I've seen my entire mafia career, then suddenly town bloccs me...

Yeah I love these "Can it run Crysis" videos. The more high end chips actually end up running Crysis albeit at a crappy framerate, it's amazing.

[Auro]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

"The Cure", "Help Me", what do you think they allude to?

[Auro]

But at least the claims he made yesterday (outside tracker) are probably bullshit, right? If he was infected he was just trolling town (which is great play btw )

[Auro]

If I were infected my goal would be the opposite: do whatever I want. I wouldn't care for consistency, since a lynch on me is also fine - my function here would be to basically posit myself as a counterwagon that scum can fall back on if they're not able to lynch town (regardless of who town is).

[Auro]

Seeking a replacement for Flavor Leaf.

[Auro]

I'd like to jump up and pound on the table

we really need to kill actual scum

.

Vote and I'll sheep

[Auro]

Quick, before his slot replaces in!

[Auro]

900 pages!

[Auro]

One more to hammer!

[Auro]

VOTE: gobbledygook

I hope we lose. This is what you get for taking my town win con, assholes.

Am I the only one who chuckled long and hard at this?

[Auro]

Checking in; and wtf Flavor?

[Auro]

LQ is definitely a bad wagon. Oka stop voting people for being annoying.

Pisskop also is a bad lynch.

[Auro]

The PM says I have the option to remain infected and study the infection, so it's not like it's a compulsory thing.

You guys missed something very important.

@maxwell: so you're saying you learn something about the infection every night you have it, or so? Did you learn anything for the period you were infected in?

[Auro]

Gobbles claimed JoAT whole he was allegedly infected, no? And only the tracker part before that.

Gobbles, confirm/deny that you can infect others?

[Auro]

Oka, I know this is sort of pot calling kettle black, but sup with the lazy play?

[Auro]

You wanna do stuff in a while? I kinda don't feel like playing but still

[Auro]

Yes

And did you? Who

[Auro]

What's your role name and flavor?

[Auro]

im a mad scientist turned failed mad scientist

What happens if you had targeted non infected? Who'd you target?

[Auro]

im a mad scientist turned failed mad scientist

If you wanted to scumside, and you believed Maxwell's claim was definitely scum, why pop up just to push that?

[Auro]

who cares who i targetted, that's private info

So we know who's infected?

[Auro]

Oh sorry, I thought you targeted infected and turned into a survivor, nevermind.

[Auro]

Verify what, again..?

[Auro]

Pisskop says otherwise, though?

[Auro]

Didn't he claim that he can't infect?

[Auro]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[Auro]

But if all infected people could infect, wouldn't it have exploded by this point? We're just consistently seeing one infect per day, except for the time we saw 2.

[Auro]

Also, can someone quote Alchemist's crumb - because I missed that?

[Auro]

I don't disagree with the possibility of there being two or more kinds of infected. I brought up that possibility to begin with.

Strains of viruses. I like that idea.

I think the average case being one where it explodes makes little sense from a game design perspective, though. How would you go about balancing a setup that swings exponentially?

[Auro]

And then Gobbles kills Alch, instead of acting like he's cured today and Alch confirming having targeted him?

[Auro]

I don't buy Oka's claim that he turned into a neutral survivor.

[Auro]

If Oka was infected, I doubt he'd have a burst in activity to try and push for a Maxwell lynch when that claim happened, as he'd be uninformed - if he genuinely believed it then max is a bad lynch from his PoV anyway

[Auro]

so your proposition is im group scum fucking around with a neutral survivor claim? i mean i hate to self meta but im a risk averse player when playing scum

Yes, that's your excuse for not playing I feel? Also this game is unique in that scum actually can and will just troll around and that's pro win-con.

Why Ari again, tl;dr?

[Auro]

wow

[Auro]

^ lol

[Auro]

I have no idea how one is supposed to read that "solve"

Here's a handy guide

[Auro]

I'm enjoying this.

[Auro]

Only 1 minute passed between Ari's post that maxwell quoted and LQ's vote on pisskop.

Not just LQ's pisskop vote, but also his surety that Nero was scum - both interesting.

[Auro]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Auro]

Can you please tell me what your reads are right now? I need something more than this.

I'm beginning to think LQ is scum who blathered in thread making noise all game, and has been "attacking" Ari a lot (8544) - until OkaPoka swung momentum onto Ari, and then he started going on about how Ari towntold (8558), and panicked even more when you voted him. He expressed suspicion before on Hoctac and Pisskop and now he thinks Nero is scum, too; after Nero made that big solve post which was being received positively. Seems like a classic flail.

[Auro]

tl;dr the combination of {Nero posting a solve, momentum swinging to Ari, an active slot replacing FL and pushing a dying game forward} caused panic.

[Auro]

I mean, LQ always scum reads me so......it seems kinda null?

That's secondary

[Auro]

Finding an infected target and then testing a cure? That sounds like a med student. Willingly staying infected? Not gonna get much studying done that way.

My interpretation was that he studies himself and was hoping he gets some info about it every day, although that just seems to be flavor.

[Auro]

Gobsie is a lot more likely groupscum than Ari. The way Ari came in on Day 1/2 after he was initially lurking and started firing shots at most the thread when he was being wagoned was pretty towny.

Lol, this^ when Hoctac's behaving infected all day.
+ LQ's sudden style and trajectory change

Hitting infected won't do shit when we're probably at LyLo, we need cures on them while hitting scum. Cures damage scum parity win-con and also contribute to the cured win-con.

[Auro]

I actually believe we do.

[Auro]

You gots to pay attention to the smaller things

[Auro]

Wait, that was sudden

[Auro]

Scum did make a key mistake in assuming that the players who naturally recovered were physically cured.

Yes, I assumed there were a ton of Doctors; and PRs were the ones who could infect other people while staying infected.
My play was oriented around finding PRs and infecting them, I assumed we wouldn't have normal exponential growth.

We had a chance to win on N5? Interesting.

[Auro]

Even if we had deduced natural recoveries earlier, we kind of had our hands tied, as we were forced to kill Alchemist, for one. But yes, should've used infections as a NK.

[Auro]

Whoops, that was an error. I thought Gobsie was infected after he self-voted. Ele/clidd's role just locked scum out, huh.

Well that was the point, we planned the self-vote to make it appear that way. We thought you knew he's groupscum, and wondered why you didn't join Aristophanes .-.

[Auro]

I was on

every

mislynch wagon this game, and was only absent on Gobbles' lynch wagon. I was very afraid of replacements coming in and wrecking me.

Radical Rat, I liked your play!

[Auro]

I also think it must have been a little frustrating and difficult playing as an infected person?

[Auro]

I doubt it, seems like we needed to specifically lynch someone cured.

[Auro]

Oh, definitely. A pity that we weren't able to scum together for more time.
maxwell's dedication and effort was amazing, I was quite happy that he replaced in as fellow scum instead of as town!

[Auro]

The first thing to talk about is replacements. There were an insane number of replacements this game. I don't know what the record for most filled replacements in a single game is, but I am sure this one comes close.

Pretty crazy, and I've never seen town be this apathetic before.

[Auro]

I actually honestly forgot to kill infected one night. Eeks.

[Auro]

this "flashwagon" counterwagon

It was hilarious forming it!

I was planning to out myself as either scum or infected who could infect, and then threaten to infect&kill anyone who would dare to lynch me (who was not already cured).

[Auro]

Yeah, their operating assumption for most of the game was that doing so would just decrease their majority so they wouldn't do it. I don't know what point of converting people to your own alignment is if you have to kill them right after.

Yes, just using it a weak NK seemed a bit

[Auro]

Oh seems like I had another misunderstanding too. Alchemist, you were still infected on your last day of play, is it? I thought cures happen at the end of the night, not beginning, and that you played the day as a totally devious town planning to catch us all.

Lmao, seems like in my head I was playing a completely different game.

[Auro]

I thought cures happen overnight, and people are informed they're cured at the start of the day; instead of them being infected through the day and cured at night start
I also thought certain PRs would be able to infect others, because they naturally target people - so instead of targeting X with a NA you instead target with the infection, while vanilla people just stay put.
How come Pisskop didn't infect anyone? Like was he quarantined etc?

[Auro]

Woah O.o

I should stick to Opens, lol, trying to outguess closed setups as scum seems to never work out well for me.

[Auro]

The game was pretty darn well moderated for a game of this size, Ircher, at least IMO. You obviously put a lot of time and effort into the game, and it paid off. There are a lot of ways this could have gone a lot worse but you seemed to generally handle things well.

Absolutely. With that number of replacements and also the sorta complex mechanics to take care of, it sounds like a nightmare to mod.

[Auro]

My logic was: If we just used one infect + one cure every day, that's just like a NK, right? And a weak one, because there are good chances we may not even be able to infect people.
The entire point seemed that certain infected could infect others: and since I thought an exponential was not easily balanced, maybe it's PRs.
Also, two of the nights we were forced to commit NKs (at least from our PoV) when we can't kill an infected; and one of the nights I just forgot to kill an infected and then there's N1 where I can't kill anyway.
Also, there was that killing on the night we thought we were in LyLo would be mechanically bad for parity, since you don't decrease the number required for majority, but decrease the number on your side.
It wasn't a conscious choice not to kill them, we very well recognized we had to -- since people can get cured in other means, not just natural -- we just never really had the opportunity to / forgot / thought we should retain PRs.

[Auro]

Following the "infect and kill infected" pattern each day would also be difficult. While we're performing weak NKs (along with roles that could grant immunity, were uninfectable, etc) we'd have to cull 18 town players in total, which would take a lot of days.
If the intent was that infected people can infect others, there's value in leaving people infected while they can help the exponential growth - but then, for how long? We can't just guess from the information we got how long it even takes for a natural recovery.

[Auro]

I have a soft spot for reasonable sounding roles, and it showed this game with FL's fakeclaim. Maxwell did a good job of handling the questions about it.

I take credit for suggesting maxwell to claim that part from FL's many claims! I came up with the Med Student flavor and literally faked a role PM to work off of. I was happy to see you townread it
I am somewhat concerned that you lack a town data point on me, but let's see. If only I wasn't cursed by the RNGods.

[Auro]

it’s just kind of upsetting how I can’t seem to roll town.

Wait for games to ask for replacements, then read the game and judge whether the slot's town, then replace

[Auro]

You guys should probably have killed TSE after he claimed infection immunity

Mislynchable

[Auro]

I'm sorry about the way I treated you, Cheeky

[Auro]

your performance on the Cheeky lynch day was nice to see, fl

[Auro]

The first thing to talk about is replacements. There were an insane number of replacements this game. I don't know what the record for most filled replacements in a single game is, but I am sure this one comes close.

This game had the same amount of 'replacements', although more of them were alt replacements than here, I believe. There's probably a large somewhere with more replacements since I know I've been in at least a couple more that have had a ton of replacements, but that was the only one that came to mind immediately as being replacement heavy.

We would've automatically lost even if we had lynched Ari, who was town!

I think the one change that could have been helpful was if we could also perform the non infect NK as a multitask, and knew that some cures could happen at night start.

[Auro]

Also, even if it had gone exponential we can still only kill one infected per night, which means that people get perma cured really fast anyway.

[Auro]

hah, i knew something was iffy about you auro, but somehow I let you and mastina change my mind.

I shoulda pushed more or Auro. I knew something was up when he was town reading me for the first time ever.

And you did somehow manage to get me to at least not scumread you, despite my better judgement.

Auro's quantity of posting is probably the biggest factor in not attracting an outright scumread from me. I do think that I called it correctly, he was pushing reasonable but wrong stuff which matches the BTDT game.

Very amusing

[Auro]

Always value effort in a game of apathy

[Auro]

I don't remember a single point in the game when the infected even neared a critical ratio, and the game was way more about slipping infections through PRs than traditional mafia.

I think we were near a critical point on one of the nights! Achieving a true critical ratio is impossible because of the natural recoveries. If it grows exponentially, people also cure exponentially - and the latter is irreversible.

@Mastina: I don't think you'd commit such an error in the future though. One reason we were more in favor of killing you was that you nailed Gobbles being scum, and I was afraid you'd start reversing your read on me at some point!