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Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:42 pm

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God those pigs look
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Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:34 am

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oh god, thats no woman thats a pig-woman!
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Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:34 am

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Also I dont eat pork, so their taste is immaterial to me.
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Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 2741, Pink Ball wrote:
@SS you'll have to replace votato too
Noted. I'll post the request later tonight.
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Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:32 pm

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Ok I've come to the conclusion that advancing this game without knowing the alignments of the dead is too frustrating 'cause we could totally on the money or fucking us over and we need that info

What do we have to do to get said info and why we haven't done it yet
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Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:48 pm

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The COs would need to check. Nero and auro convinced Arya to release neros second instead and votato did nothing ao the replacement could donit
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Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:01 pm

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What's better: {1 flip right now and nothing the rest of the game} versus {No flip right now but a flip every phase after Coup}
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Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:13 pm

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knowing Rubi's and Ygritte flips would be nice but not knowing isn't the end of the world so I don't think Pink has much of a point.

Pork either doesn't understand or he's doing a good job pretending that he doesn't. IF both Arya and Vota are town 1 is going to die tonight and by releasing me we can save vota tomorrow night. If Vota is scum it's a moot point so eh...

but the plan of jailkeeping both seems rather nice.
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Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:19 pm

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What's the point of jailkeeping them if we're gonna coup? Scum will shoot other way no?
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Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:44 pm

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if we agree to coup then keeping the COs alive for flips is absolutely the way to go. we want every flip we can get.

the coup happens tomorrow., right? and then they assign new COs from only amoung the nobleS?
we shouldnt pick replacements until tomorrow, or at least should limit picking specific people.

Does the jail have to be public?
Does it extend to the 'night'?

Do we even have other options? because not getting flips is awful. Shutting down the majority of the powers in the game because a couple of people might be scum was a bad choice too, since now we cant even rely upon night actions (which the game was balanced around) to carry us blindly.
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Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:45 pm

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maybe we should kill whoever championed the 'roleblock everyone so that the scum factional and a few dying COs are the only ones moving around' strat. cuz it was a bad one.
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Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:45 pm

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the soonest we can coup is in 2 weeks, right? If vota is town and he's not jailkept he gets shot and we have 0 CO's left. If we jailkeep him then he doesn't get shot next week.

ofc if he's just scum then jailkeeping him is a moot point although but still erring on the side of caution seems like good play, no?
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Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:47 pm

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In post 2810, pisskop wrote:maybe we should kill whoever championed the 'roleblock everyone so that the scum factional and a few dying COs are the only ones moving around' strat. cuz it was a bad one.
Wasn't that auro and rubi? Rubi is already dead and auro will prob be dead b4 lylo.
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Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:48 pm

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enh, i cant really get too behind an auro SR. ive tried though
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Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:51 pm

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I sorta feel like as long as we lynch in gobble, vota, dave, auro, pink this is gonna be an auto town win.
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Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:53 pm

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Oh I thought the coup was tomorrow
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Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:56 pm

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I don't think so though I could be wrong. I think that Auro's army makes it to the capital next week and then week after Dave and fire's army makes it there.
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Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:04 pm

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It’s just not going to happen imo, but I don’t have a better plan at all. I have a feeling that we just need to keep lynching the scummy folks until the games over and I don’t think the mechanics are going to play a big part unless a scum noble kills their residents or something.
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Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 2817, Porkens wrote:we just need to keep lynching the scummy folks until the games over
prob. this is what I was pushing the other day. Auro wants us to all move to a castle and have a noble slaughter everyone and I'm just not really down for that.
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Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:29 pm

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Hey, I didn't say I particularly want it; it's just the clear highest EV strategy by a large margin
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Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:44 pm

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but is it? If scum are getting their asses handed to them and there's a scum noble or 2 it also gives them there best (maybe only) chance. From my POV its best for town to just lynch. After the COs are all gone I imagine that night kills could be a little scarce so it woun't be totally like a normal game where scum can just NK whoever they want.
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Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:48 pm

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It is, since {scum are getting their asses handed to them} is itself pretty unlikely.
Scum unfortunately have other countermeasures post coup (which I won't talk about, of course)
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Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:49 pm

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week 3-lynch gobbledygook
week 4- lynch Daveasz
week 5-votato
week 6- lynch Pink Ball
week 7-Auro

is roughly what I want to do.
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Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:50 pm

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In post 2821, Auro wrote:It is, since {scum are getting their asses handed to them} is itself pretty unlikely.
ummm...how do you know this?
In post 2821, Auro wrote:Scum unfortunately have other countermeasures post coup (which I won't talk about, of course)
how do you know this?
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Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:52 pm

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1. Probability
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