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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:01 pm

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In post 1694, Moment wrote:
In post 1690, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1689, Moment wrote:
In post 1687, Umlaut wrote:Also we
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Why?
I mean, mostly because I refuse to lose the game to a living NK15 who was caught in a lie midway through day 1.
Are you aware that this is a purely emotional play?

It seems to me that if your goal is to minimize your chance of losing or maximize your chance of winning, choosing an investigation based off of today's lynch is the method to do that. That is to say, an investigation based off of the information gained from notscience's flip.
Yeah, as I phrased it it's purely emotional.

Maybe the thing to do would take the best single person to inspect given notscience flips green, and the best single person given he flips red, and put them together? But I think NK15 has to be at least one of those.
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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:02 pm

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In post 1692, Iconeum wrote:otoh i probably shouldn't be talking about reads too much

i think the play is for everyone to decide on 2 options to investigate, and 2 (or 3?) options to execute in which I have final say?
i will correct myself here and say that the execution is 100% a majority thing today as long as it stays inside of the 3 investigated players

as far as the inspect goes, I think a couple of options for me to decide in is probably a good call

right?
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:03 pm

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options on which I will not state my opinion publicly

as for my vote, at the moment I'm thinking notscience>moment>datisi
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:05 pm

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In post 1702, Iconeum wrote:options on which I will not state my opinion publicly

as for my vote, at the moment I'm thinking notscience>moment>datisi
Why Moment over Datisi? (I think it's safe for you to talk about this at least)
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:08 pm

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moment and datisi are just about equal and i wouldn't be opposed to switching those
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:13 pm

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In post 1696, Titus wrote:It would be best for the health of the town for him to be investigated.
What exactly does this mean? You'll have to excuse me if it reminds me of the sort of meaningless talk I've seen in the past that I've already talked at length about.

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In post 1700, Umlaut wrote: Yeah, as I phrased it it's purely emotional.

Maybe the thing to do would take the best single person to inspect given notscience flips green, and the best single person given he flips red, and put them together? But I think NK15 has to be at least one of those.
Is NK15 being one of those people something that you believed before I brought any of this up, or is this post-hoc reasoning? Be honest with yourself, the answer doesn't really matter to me.
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:16 pm

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If notscience flips red than his immediate disbelief of the NK15 claim seems a lot like TMI, which would imply NK15 is scum.
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:42 pm

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In post 1706, Umlaut wrote:If notscience flips red than his immediate disbelief of the NK15 claim seems a lot like TMI, which would imply NK15 is scum.
what's the reasoning for scum not believing their buddie's fake claim exactly? wouldn't fellow scum just take a seat behind the fake claim and see what happens instead of what you are saying?
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:04 pm

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In post 1663, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1660, username wrote:I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"
I read Moment as the opposite alignment from NK. Is that not a stance?
can you walk me through this? specifically why you think it isn't tvt. is there anything else besides "if nk15 were to flip town, moment looks like scum wk-ing him"?

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In post 1549, Datisi wrote:pedit: lol funny, have you completely missed mena's posts this game, nk15? when did notscience go from being in your suspect pool to being lhf?
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In post 1691, Iconeum wrote:Give me 1 good reason scum!NK chooses to lie and fake claim like that, and in the process has a high chance of comitting seppuku
what scum would ever fakeclaim 4th PR in a micro game with three confirmed town PRs and then immediately start shading the three confirmed PRs, what does that achieve???
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 pm

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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:26 pm

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it's okay norwee, you can keep pretending you scumread me.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:20 am

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In post 1691, Iconeum wrote:Give me 1 good reason scum!NK chooses to lie and fake claim like that, and in the process has a high chance of comitting seppuku
because it spews people as not the daughter. come on, we've been over this before.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:22 am

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In post 1708, Datisi wrote:can you walk me through this? specifically why you think it isn't tvt. is there anything else besides "if nk15 were to flip town, moment looks like scum wk-ing him"?
Not really, plus Moment was in the inspection bracket after all. Of course it's not impossible, I just think Moment's reasoning is so flimsy that if NK is town it has good odds of being a TMI.
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:06 am

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5 days left

please start reaffirming at least 2 brackets to invest
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:14 am

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I don't see a good reason not to have NK15 be inspected, even if someone thinks he's town. Why not resolve it? Norwegian has volunteered himself so he can go, third person is the free wildcard pick, just don't make it a townread.

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since that seems to be where we're going.
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:17 am

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In post 1713, Iconeum wrote:5 days left

please start reaffirming at least 2 brackets to invest
may i also suggest that my selection for the N1 bracket be taken into account for the N2 selection…
or at least provide me an option with that in mind?
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:20 am

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^^

also norwee and nk15 are both already spewed not!TD so

inspect: wheat


for the third, if we're adding them, maybe one od RR/umlaut/hel? i don't feel
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strongly about it though

pedit: this was after max's post

wdym ico?
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:45 am

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In post 1716, Datisi wrote:wdym ico?
literally what I wrote
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:48 am

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i'm getting scum vibes from the datisi slot actually

i don't see any sorting for what should a 50/50 from town!datisi

also just dislike the dictator dragon thing because it's pretty clear that was only for D1 and town needs to actually do stuff and i'm not doing anything to take control here?
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:48 am

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tho as it stands, notscience is still my first pick
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:56 am

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i wasn't sure what you meant by that because investing in the same pool again right now (i.e. before any flips and with more suspect people that are spewed not!TD) is objecitely suboptimal

i literally said i'm townreading moment and ns's posts today (as rare as they are) are bad and he's getting voted, unless ns suddenly swoons me over with some amazing posts i'm done with that bracket for today

also considering you have the final say in who is getting investigated it's pretty clear that was *not* only for day 1 (not to mention )
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:04 am

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aaaand ico left for the day. boring.
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:06 am

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In post 1713, Iconeum wrote:5 days left

please start reaffirming at least 2 brackets to invest
{NK15, EE, RR} (all known not TD)

I actually think RR is pretty town but it doesn't hurt to have him in there.
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:07 am

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Is the convention just that we always inspect wheat?

INSPECT: Wheat[/v]
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:07 am

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ugh
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