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Post Post #3075 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:11 am

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Why are none of the nobles accusing any of the other nobles of killinG FB?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #3076 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:22 am

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but I don't think he was killed by a noble.
In post 0, Albert B. Rampage wrote:-Kill hostage / violate guest right (kill a player residing in your castle or a conquered castle by typing Kill: player1) (burst) (public)
this is a public action.
In post 0, Albert B. Rampage wrote:-Plan assassination (kill a player's second-in-command if there is one accompanying him, if none, then kill player. Must designate location of player at time of resolution or action fails) (slow) (hidden)
and the flavor was actually assassination so...

Still, someone would have to know where he is and how does scum know that? So its just the noble being told they are @ castle X or is there another way?
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Post Post #3077 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:31 am

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So I guess that one of the nobles is just scum that knew Ari was in thier castle. So unless we are delibertly no lynching then we should be lynching in one of Auro/Pink/Ball/Dave.

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Post Post #3078 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:33 am

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maybe its just auro and tipsy here
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Post Post #3079 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:08 am

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does no lynchin make sense? probably not, there's a chance scum has 3 and has two kills lined up (assuming they have a power broker) so it could be elo
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Post Post #3080 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:09 am

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davesaz admitted firebringer was in his castle didnt he?
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Post Post #3081 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:09 am

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In post 3070, Tipsy wrote:ok but was he in ur castle?
In post 3071, davesaz wrote:Yes he was, afaik.
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Post Post #3082 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:35 am

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Finished skimming, don't really like elena/pisskop slot, elena's apathy didn't seem particularly town and pisskop also has seemingly abandoned any pretense of solving. nero just looks town and if he's scum he wants it more than anyone else in the game so fuck it.

dave has claimed Firebringer was in his castle, but that he mentioned it publicly here:
davesaz wrote:
In post 2624, davesaz wrote:Should I go bold and eliminate the need for a replacement?
I wanted opinions on FB for a reason. He seemed overly active compared to a couple town games this year, and I lightly scumread him as a result.
It would be so much easier if there were flips.
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The kill would fit with the notion of court officials being scum and therefore not a free kill, but obviously that doesn't make sense from my POV. The big issue for me is, who sees that post and sends in the kill on firebringer? votato is dumb as fuck so he probably didn't notice it, and by the time Tipsy replaced in their actions were already locked in. For that matter, why assassinate FB's slot at all, if the assumption is he's going to be vigged? would seem like a waste of a kill.
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Post Post #3083 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:37 am

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On the other hand, a kill on my slot probably means all eyes are on Tipsy as the last CO standing. That'd probably make sense not to do it from a scum pov. Hmm.
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Post Post #3084 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:06 am

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In post 3080, Tipsy wrote:davesaz admitted firebringer was in his castle didnt he?
Yes, but both PB and Dave denying would mean guaranteed scum in Nobles and one of them guaranteed to me.

Either Dave did the assassinate or someone spotted the crumb, which makes this difficult.
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Post Post #3085 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:10 am

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In post 3076, Nero Cain wrote:So its just the noble being told they are @ castle X or is there another way?
This is why I was treating it as a scumclaim, but since Dave had actually softed it in a way before, it's possible someone noticed it.

Also, this is why people should be traveling every day
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Post Post #3086 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:00 am

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Assassination attempts hit seconds if they are not jailed (and thus with their first), if I understand things right.
Because of that, I tend toward excess jailing instead of investigation as scummy. And arguing that jailing seconds is "protection" is scummy too, it has the opposite effect of protection.
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Post Post #3087 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:09 am

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@MOD WHICH HAPPENS FIRST: TRAVEL OR MAF SPY NETWORK KILL?
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Post Post #3088 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:11 am

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(They are both fast...is it maybe just the order they are submitted?)
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Post Post #3089 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:18 pm

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Jailing PBs initially was an aggressive action that could net COs a BP
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Post Post #3090 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:09 am

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Auro, what are your thoughts on Tipsy right now?
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Post Post #3091 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:48 am

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Coup and kill
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Post Post #3092 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:05 am

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Do I have to send any other action to make the coup happen?
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Post Post #3093 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:07 am

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if coup happens does my nvestigate fail? lol
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Post Post #3094 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:28 am

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In post 3087, Porkens wrote:
@MOD WHICH HAPPENS FIRST: TRAVEL OR MAF SPY NETWORK KILL?
I don't see this answer anywhere. I'm ruling that the kill happens first.

Also, while looking through ABR's ISO I realized that if someone dies their place of death is supposed to be announced. Therefore I will retroactively announce that Aristophanes died in davesaz's castle. My bad!
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3095 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:35 am

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In post 3092, Pink Ball wrote:Do I have to send any other action to make the coup happen?
A 2nd army has to arrive in the capital first.
Any armies that have been raised but not sent to capital should be.
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Post Post #3096 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:47 am

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Great. VOTE: daves
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Post Post #3097 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:01 pm

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sooooo
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #3098 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:02 pm

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Feelin' a pork kill, tbh.

just because its a direction, and i wouldnt be surprised.
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Post Post #3099 (ISO) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:12 pm

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Dave’s is just as much of a “direction” and there is some mechanical evidence as well.

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