Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

Auro · Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:34 pm

Anyone wanna wagon Nero for the lulz?

Auro · Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:52 pm

have u?

Auro · Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:13 am

Turkey iso mostly empty. Easy to verify, just 22 posts there. Gives zero shits he's being wagoned

Auro · Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:18 am

Did a couple things that were midlly towny but nothing else

Auro · Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:22 am

In post 2957, Tipsy wrote:so gobble is apathy wagoned?

I think Gobbles' ISO is a scumtell for him! His posts are a lot more meaningful as town.

Auro · Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:45 am

I've been town with him twice to my recollection and townread him both times. I've been town against him and caught him once. I've been scum with him and he played pretty much like this.

Ok don't see it as a meta argument - his posts are bad, and that's scummy

Auro · Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:32 pm

@Dave: Gob was actually scum the entire time in SIR, Mastina caught him pretty quick

I asked him to start behaving erratically to get read as infected, the first few days there was enough noise to make his lack of posting less noticeable

Auro · Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:44 am

Heya Maxwell!

Auro · Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:01 pm

In post 2984, maxwell wrote:Doing ISO reads and I want to die already.

You wouldn't need to wait much!

Auro · Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:55 pm

In post 2994, Pink Ball wrote:By the way wanted to add that my whole point about Firebringer being town is now out of the way since he recently lost as scum in another game and practically did the same thing he was doing here towards me, so yeah

link?

Auro · Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:54 am

In post 2998, maxwell wrote:he posts so fucking much and I had to just skim it.

my scum plan is working, tee hee

Auro · Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:08 pm

Very interesting choice of NK, a Noble people were scumreading over a CO...

Auro · Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:50 pm

Firebringer/Aristophanes weren't in the Capital. Fire moved to someone's castle.

Whoever's castle he moved into is extremely likely to be scum, as otherwise scum don't know which castle he's in and would have to take a guess - which is suboptimal compared to a CO kill.

The Noble who was housing Firebringer should claim.

Auro · Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:45 pm

Yes! We get informed every week. I wasn't housing Fire.

Auro · Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:55 am

He could've moved pre-PinkBall

Auro · Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:55 am

Auro · Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:44 am

I know you didn't claim the kill. The existence of that post makes it harder to solve, hence "uhh"

Auro · Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:45 am

Dave, if you were scum, can you detail what your mechanically optimum NK would be (regardless of dayplay)?

Auro · Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:11 am

I mean, he's conf town...

Auro · Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:06 am

In post 3080, Tipsy wrote:davesaz admitted firebringer was in his castle didnt he?

Yes, but both PB and Dave denying would mean guaranteed scum in Nobles and one of them guaranteed to me.

Either Dave did the assassinate or someone spotted the crumb, which makes this difficult.

Auro · Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:10 am

In post 3076, Nero Cain wrote:So its just the noble being told they are @ castle X or is there another way?

This is why I was treating it as a scumclaim, but since Dave had actually softed it in a way before, it's possible someone noticed it.

Also, this is why people should be traveling every day

Auro · Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:18 pm

Jailing PBs initially was an aggressive action that could net COs a BP

Auro · Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:48 am

Coup and kill

Auro · Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:01 pm

In post 3094, Something_Smart wrote:I don't see this answer anywhere. I'm ruling that the kill happens first.

I think I did clarify this in thread. They happen at the same time, scum is supposed to guess where the travel resolves to, not where they are.

Auro · Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:19 am

I doubt it :$ feels like none of us have the motivation. Also I realized a Coup doesn't help us either...? because whoever gets the new powers has to stay in Capital

Auro · Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:21 pm

In post 622, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Also: newly appointed COs (nobles and Power Brokers) lose their travel ability. They must remain in the capital to work in the government.

@Nero

Pink Ball flattery tell

Auro · Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:24 pm

Relax, I was kidding

I should've detailed a bit more, I just wrote that when I woke up

Auro · Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:25 pm

I'm conflicted about Dave; it doesn't seem like a NK he would make when he could take a shot at public killing and get away with it, and I very strongly townread Shireen.
I'll prob just sheep Nero Cain.

Auro · Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:33 pm

Oh we're in worst-case LyLo. Eeks! Ideally I'd want to execute the Votato slot

Auro · Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:18 pm

Ooooh kay

VOTE: Tipsy

He started a neighborhood with me right after replacing in. I lied to him saying I detected he's part of another PT too, and asked him to confirm or deny. Instead of directly denying it, Tipsy surfed the OP rules and was wondering how I had such an ability that's not present in the OP. After I asked him to explicitly deny, he then figured I might be reaction testing him.

I think it's somewhat scummy to react by looking at whether such a detection is possible in the rules over just saying "No" immediately. From a scum PoV I could have been talking about his scum PT as the one I detected so he'd have to think of some explanation or at least verify first if it was possible.

The lack of a CO NK is also fishy! I think this could actually mean

both

COs are scum? If it were only one, they could just NK the other knowing they're going to survive this week. If both were outside they'd expect us not to execute a CO today, which is bad for them, so it's better to execute a CO always? Especially with Firebringer being a scumread slot anyway.

It was oversight that I didn't see travel is forbidden after a Coup, which makes a Coup technically worthless.

Pink Ball please don't feel shut down when I make pushes, you know I'm the type to push minor things. I should've clarified that particular "flattery tell" thing was a joke, but to be honest I'm unable to recognize town!you. I only recollect playing against scum!you multiple times (apart from our hydra), so probably that's understandable?

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:04 am

The overall state of the thread isn't reflective of how well scum are playing, though. They could be vigilant and competent and just avoid posting too much in the main thread. I do think tipsy is a competent player and would've picked up on it.
When I read that I assumed Dave meant voting Fire .>. but I think interpreting it correctly isn't a stretch at all.

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:06 am

In post 3135, Tipsy wrote:^ p much that. anyone not voting davesaz should have to explajn why they dont think the ari kill is incriminating to th guy who knew where he was.

>It was softed, and I don't think it was such a vague soft that competent scum wouldn't pick up on
>Dave can actually get away with publicly killing Ari, if anything he'd know the insider knowledge he has makes it a risky kill
>It's a pretty bad NK compared to a CO?

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:09 am

Okay; if both scum are outside the COs, i.e. 2/6, and up till last week everyone was on board with a coup after Week 5, can anyone highlight how a kill outside COs on a generally scumread slot is beneficial?

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:31 am

In post 3141, Pink Ball wrote:Why would dave and their partner kill Ari via nightkill instead of killing him during the day?

Exactly - Dave was already toying with the idea. It's less suspicious to do it publicly in the day lol

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:17 pm

In post 3154, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3132, Auro wrote:It was oversight that I didn't see travel is forbidden after a Coup, which makes a Coup technically worthless.
Where does it say this?

You asked, I quoted, why ask again?

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:18 pm

In post 3121, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3108, Auro wrote:Also I realized a Coup doesn't help us either...? because whoever gets the new powers has to stay in Capital
Where are you getting this?

In post 3124, Auro wrote:
In post 622, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Also: newly appointed COs (nobles and Power Brokers) lose their travel ability. They must remain in the capital to work in the government.
@Nero

Pink Ball flattery tell

In post 3154, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3132, Auro wrote:It was oversight that I didn't see travel is forbidden after a Coup, which makes a Coup technically worthless.
Where does it say this?

Hmm, Nero acting dumb == scum?

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 3144, davesaz wrote:Someone specifically wanted me to confirm the soft. I'd be suspicious of that.

Um, and who is this person...? In a neighborhood?

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 3160, Nero Cain wrote:(would this mean that Ari wasn't supposed to die last night? unless he was unacompied?)

It means Fire fast traveled to Dave's castle.

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:44 pm

brilliant case, voting "history" from early d1

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:45 pm

(fwiw, I'm not actually scumreading Nero, I just find omgus'ing him funny lol)

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:58 pm

lul dude if you think it's tipsy-Auro, then help me bus my partner

Auro · Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:21 pm

We're in worst-case LyLo right now. If we execute and game continues with a NK we know that one of our executions so far is scum. Besides, you can get targeted for the kill the same phase you receive the Coup power.

Auro · Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:35 pm

In post 3180, Porkens wrote:Auro move your vote to Dave please

I feel like Dave's town though

Auro · Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:44 pm

I've been pointing out how it doesn't -really- make sense for Dave to do that kill for a while, why is my position surprising?

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:53 am

NL bad

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:10 pm

I don't get Nero, Tipsy's correct

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:11 pm

I was gonna vote Dave, I thought we had more time left, wanted to end the game

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:12 pm

Gobbles and Fire being town = ??

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:14 pm

Guys: {Maxwell, Davesaz, Pink Ball} how many scum could be in there?

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:32 pm

It was supposed to be in parallel. But given Something_Smart's rule interpretation it means they could've killed Arya's slot even if he kidnapped her, no?

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:33 pm

Hey wait a minute, it was Maxwell who replaced her. So Nero, you didn't submit a jailkeep action?

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:35 pm

In post 3247, Tipsy wrote:did u not realize kidnapping the CO's would stop us from getting results? :\

Not kidnapping COs leaves them open to getting NK'd, and a dead CO can't investigate at all.

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:41 pm

In post 3202, Something_Smart wrote:Tipsy, maxwell, Porkens, davesaz, Pink Ball, Auro, Nero Cain

Porkens, reads on everyone?

Pisskop didn't even travel to anyone's castle >.>

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:44 pm

VOTE: Pink Ball
I'm sorry

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:00 pm

In post 3246, Auro wrote:Hey wait a minute, it was Maxwell who replaced her. So Nero, you didn't submit a jailkeep action?

Nero, why did you lie about accepting the plan?

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:01 pm

Actually

I think Coup and then maybe execute Maxwell/Tipsy

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:48 pm

Not before a coup to take his power.

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:31 pm

Aha who was your teammate?

Auro · Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:52 pm

Not you. I'm guessing Maxwell was scum who hammered along with PB

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:10 am

In post 3273, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, maybe I got my weeks mixed up but he's still super fucking scummy for using his ability to make a pt instead of investigate a death. If I tilt my head just right I can kinda see where someone that doesn't get this game goes "special actions are listed under 2nd in command actions, that must mean I can use 2 actions this week!" What he claimed in our PT was that he needed to be "better informed" but there were only two players that he could investigate. I mean it just all looks like evasion.

He did it immediately after replacing in, I don't think the multitasking assumption is far fetched at all though. He didn't realize he couldn't do an invest until he actually tried to.

So you're saying you jailed Tipsy in parallel? Where to?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:48 am

Pork IC or veeeeeeery clever scum

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:52 am

Tipsy
maxwell

Aristophanes

[NK]
Porkens
Daveasz [Dead, ?]
Pink Ball
Auro

gobbledygook

[Maxwell]

LicketyQuickety

[NK]

Ygritte

[NK]

Kmd

[NK]

pisskop

[NK]

Rubicon

[NK]
Nero Cain

Okay since the game hasn't ended Dave

has

to be scum or Maxwell lied about Gobble, or Maxwell and tipsy

both

lied about Rubicon.

But Dave's shitty daykill is scummy af, so damn, I guess Dave was scum after all.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:52 am

Whoops got it slightly wrong but colors should be correct.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:07 am

In post 3284, Pink Ball wrote:Damn, I saved shireen/dave twice, I was in his castle and he tried to kill me when he was already hammered. Oh well I guess he was scum eh guys?

Both of us were in his castle, he tried to kill ME actually, not you, no? Why would he try to kill just one of us

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am

VOTE: Tipsy

Nope, Ygritte was a Porkens kill actually not a NK

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am

Tipsy we need to talk, in our PT

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:48 am

UNVOTE:

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:51 am

In post 3201, Something_Smart wrote:Court Officials: maxwell
Nobles: Pink Ball | davesaz
Power Brokers:

Maxwell and Pink Ball both at the Capital, but scum target someone not in the Capital? Interesting.
A Tipsy assassination would've gone through as well.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:52 am

They just need to know where you are, no? And it was public knowledge that you're at my castle.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:54 pm

In post 3314, Porkens wrote:Ok next on the agenda is the topic of Castlemurder. Auro I believe you are the project lead here tell us how it’s going with tipsy.

It's been fine in the PT apart from that reaction test thing I pointed out earlier.
Only I, Tipsy, and PB (by elimination) would have known you were in my castle.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:11 pm

I want to execute maxwell

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:16 pm

Maxwell hasn't *really* been present, also he's a CO with investigation powers in a state with a guaranteed scum flip (which will be pretty useful if found) so why hasn't he been killed?
Assuming Dave's scum: PB was at Dave's castle, yet Dave only tries to kill me when he's hammered?
PB also knows where you were, if you weren't at PB's castle.

Also, I'm an IC now too!

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:30 pm

Well, actually not IC, I could only be scum with either Nero, or exactly Dave and Ygritte. Reasons later

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:41 pm

Porkens you're sure Nero is town?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 3338, Auro wrote:Well, actually not IC, I could only be scum with either Nero, or exactly Dave and Ygritte. Reasons later

May as well say. Tipsy, Nero, and you are at my castle right now.
If I'm scum with Maxwell or PB I could have ended the game by daykilling all three of you bringing it to 2-1, winning the game.
If I'm scum with Tipsy/Nero/You, I could kill the other two at my castle and bring it to 2-2, winning the game.

So either I'm IC, or I'm scum with exactly Davesaz and Ygritte (as the others have been NKd or checked by slots I can't be scum with).

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:54 pm

Oh, I can't even be scum with Dave and Ygritte: I would've used the factional kill on Maxwell, and then triple daykill today conditional on you guys not moving!

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:00 pm

Nero's desperate now lol

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:06 pm

You're trying your damnedest to "put some suspicion" on me, lol

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:13 pm

In post 3351, Pink Ball wrote:I didn't know where anyone was because no one has been on my castle the entire game.

In that if Porkens isn't at the Capital, and isn't at your castle, he must be at someone's castle who's alive... and I'm the only remaining option.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:26 pm

In post 3354, Nero Cain wrote:though I guess Auro not killing in the castle could mean he's town unless he's like scum with Tipsy or something and if he kills me and Pork but not tipsy its basicly a scumclaim.

Lol if it's me and Tipsy, and I kill you and Pork we win the game because we reach parity

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:27 pm

In post 3353, Nero Cain wrote:that isn't a good look from you.

Doesn't matter and don't care, cos I'm IC now

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:28 pm

In post 0, Albert B. Rampage wrote:-Kill hostage / violate guest right (kill a player residing in your castle or a conquered castle by typing Kill: player1) (burst) (public)

This is a full player kill, not NPC.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:31 pm

Okay, so we're at 4:2 right now worst case.
Porkens is almost certainly town, and I'm confirmed town.
So 2 out of 4 in {Nero, Maxwell, Tipsy, Pink Ball}.
I daykill Tipsy today, bringing us to 3:2 worst case and without a factional kill, leaving us room for an execution. I think we then execute Maxwell.
Only if the team is exactly {Nero, Pink Ball} we'll lose this way, though.

Pink Ball wrote:Ok, only option is with dave and Ygritte, which is still a good chance since you saved shireen/dave twice and you called Ygritte conftown 'cause nightkill

And then I choose to try and assassinate Porkens instead of Maxwell when that has a guaranteed chance of going through and I can daykill all three of you today?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:32 pm

Porkens, we just need to find one town within {Nero, Maxwell, Tipsy, Pink Ball}.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:37 pm

In post 3369, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, I guess I can sort of get behind the "Auro isn't scum b/c he could just murder Pork and I but I don't really understand why you painted ygritte as green when she hasn't been investigated and what made you stop voting Tipsy. Like you really aren't playing with your team and it irks me.

Stop focusing on irrelevant things and help sort the rest

Pink Ball wrote:You didn't know if all of your guests would stay and killing maxwell was killing a potential mislynch, also confirming that gobble is town which is another clue we don't know right now

I know Tipsy definitely stays, as he's jailkept. Nero and Porkens have been at my castle forever, they've never moved. Also, I could instead kill you (since you were in the Capital).
Why would I try to assassinate someone I could daykill in LyLo anyway?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:38 pm

Also, yesterday we were at 7, and assuming I'm with Dave that's 2:5. I could've day killed the three people at my castle to bring it to 2:2, which is a win, no?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:41 pm

Auro scum with {Maxwell/Pink Ball}: Daykill {Tipsy, Nero Cain, Porkens}, leaving 2S 1T, win
Auro scum with {Porkens/Nero Cain/Tipsy}: Daykill the other two at castle, leaving 2S 2T, win
Auro scum with {Davesaz}: Daykill {Tipsy, Nero Cain, Porkens} leaving 2S 2T, win (yesterday)

Regardles of who I'm scum with, I could have ended the game either last game day or today.
Since I didn't, I'm IC.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:42 pm

In post 3376, Nero Cain wrote:how do you know that I was taking him to your castle though?

The mod tells me every week start who's in my castle.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:44 pm

In post 3380, Nero Cain wrote:Tipsy wasn't here till this week b/c my jailkeep is slow?

No, I was informed in my Week 5 PM that Tipsy was there.

Pink Ball wrote:Auro you being town change things. Do you really think that dave is scum?

His attempt to daykill me post hammer is virtually a scumclaim, no?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:46 pm

In post 3206, Tipsy wrote:Auro kidnapped me and made my investigation fail.

VOTE: Auro

In post 3208, Tipsy wrote:oh wait.. it just says auro's castle. does that necessarily mean auro did it? uhg.

UNVOTE:

In post 3209, Tipsy wrote:i gues not since auro isn't a power broker. at any rate, still no result because kidnapped.

In post 3213, Porkens wrote:Auro you need to castlemurder tipsy fmpov

I mean Nero if you think I'm lying about Tipsy being in my castle week 5... ^

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:49 pm

In post 3373, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 3368, Auro wrote:Porkens, we just need to find one town within {Nero, Maxwell, Tipsy, Pink Ball}.
We could lynch maxwell today, force Nero and Tipsy to stay on your castle (if one of them moves is basically a scumclaim) and then you kill both Tipsy and Nero. Porkens moves so neither you or me knows where he is, you can't nightkill me and I can't nightkill you. We assure Porkens, you and me being alive

Sadly, I can be night killed, I left my guard

Also, Porkens can be killed, scum just need to know where he is today, not where he moves to.

I'll spend some time in my evening thinking about whether there's a mech 100% foolproof plan. Right now if we manage to identify one town I think we're guaranteed a win.

Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3372, Auro wrote:Stop focusing on irrelevant things and help sort the rest
Its not hard to answer these, indulge me.

Why does it matter? Are you still trying to sort me?

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:50 pm

In post 3385, Pink Ball wrote:Wait we can abuse the mechanics

We no kill today, maxwell and me travel to your castle, you kill everyone

Sadly I can be NK'd

and maxwell can't travel since he's a CO.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Second-in-command is different from guards though, I don't have a guard right now. Porkens' pledge won't save me lol

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Maxwell's kidnap is slow, it'll take 2 weeks.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:56 pm

I mostly just unvoted because I don't want a quick execution today, we need to decide the best approach to winning.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:58 pm

It was a mistake, in my head I counted Ygritte as a factional kill.

Porkens wrote:
In post 0, Albert B. Rampage wrote:-Plan assassination (kill a player's second-in-command if there is one accompanying him, if none, then kill player. Must designate location of player at time of resolution or action fails) (slow) (hidden)
Not sure where u are getting that my lord. If you are ish to give the order, I can get rid of tipsy right now...

It's a slow action. I can daykill Tipsy instantly right now, but let's wait and think about the best mech approach first.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:16 pm

In post 3403, Porkens wrote:1. Castlemurder tipsy
2. Everyone moves to auro’s castle
3. Execute maxwell

This fails if the team is {Nero, Pink Ball}. Also, I'm 100% dying to the factional NK this day, so can't do the Week 7 nuke.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:19 pm

I'm not going to "get over myself" by conftownning you, I'm gonna search for a mech strat that leaves no possibility.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:20 pm

In post 3408, Pink Ball wrote:But Porkens can do it

He's a Power Broker

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:29 pm

In post 3413, Porkens wrote:I don’t think I get to keep them if he dies, but I also think I’d soak up the NK

Ohhhhh that way, the assassinate hits my NPC, which is you? Hmm. Nice. So yeah we can execute Maxwell, have PB move to my castle and NUKE
Gimme some time I'll think about this, be back in a few hours

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:36 pm

In post 3421, Auro wrote:Ohhhhh that way, the assassinate hits my NPC, which is you? Hmm. Nice. So yeah we can execute Maxwell, have PB move to my castle and NUKE
Gimme some time I'll think about this, be back in a few hours

If Nero's scum, he'd be moving out my castle this week and scumclaim, forcing us to execute him next game week. I get NK'd then leaving {Pink Ball, Maxwell, Tipsy} LyLo with Nero confirmed scum.

So it's not a completely foolproof strategy if Nero's scum with someone in that group.

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:39 pm

In post 0, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Noble Actions:
-House arrest (Must have household guard. Roleblock a player without a household guard (or if they are busy arresting) from using Player Actions (fast) (public)

Pink Ball: don't use this yet, but I think if you House Arrest Nero he can't fast move from my castle, correct?

Also, yeah if PB's scum he's forced to scumclaim by not moving to my castle tomorrow too

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:41 pm

In post 3402, Porkens wrote:Auro I perform your actions now I don’t have my old powers anymore

Also, damn, we could've forced Maxwell to pledge to me if this were the case, so an NK on me would kill him instead

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:51 pm

Oh we can have someone else pledge to me after you eat my kill, so Week 8 Nuke even if someone scumclaims, brilliant (if Pledge can work)

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:57 pm

In post 3378, Auro wrote:Auro scum with {Davesaz}: Daykill {Tipsy, Nero Cain, Porkens} leaving 2S 2T, win (yesterday)

Lol^

Auro · Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:00 pm

In post 3441, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, I do know, kinda, I could just move out of his castle but he's already posioned the well with "if Nero moves or anyone doesn't do as I say its a scumclaim!"

Yeah, if we have a mechanical guarantee to winning and you don't cooperate, you tell me: is it a townclaim or a scumclaim?

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:57 am

@mod: Can someone pledge to Porkens now?

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:09 pm

In post 3465, Pink Ball wrote:Maybe the best alternative that leaves us in the best position with no chances of losing is no killing today; if Nero leaves, scumclaim. If I don't go to Auro's castle, scumclaim. Tomorrow Auro kills everyone in his castle but you, and then execute maxwell.

Auro can't die, I think you can travel and be safe? To avoid the nightkill I mean

But if scum kill Porkens, I can't nuke, right? Maxwell's still gonna be outside and 1:1 will lose the game.

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:11 pm

In post 3469, Nero Cain wrote:my meta suddenly changed.. I don't really know if this is some kinda revenge

I do townread you, but I would prefer a plan which doesn't need me to townread you

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:13 pm

I'm cool with NL today and executing Maxwell, and nuke tomorrow. If Maxwell is town we lose though

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:13 pm

I mean no daykilling"

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:22 pm

Maxwell do you have a better plan?

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:15 pm

Screw it. I'll daykill Tipsy and let's execute Maxwell. The only way we lose is if {Nero, Pink Ball} are exactly scum, and I'm cool with that. Porkens, shall I go ahead then?

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:18 pm

Yeah, we could've forced someone else to pledge to you so both of us would be assassination proof today, for a guaranteed auto win

Daykill Tipsy

VOTE: Maxwell

Auro · Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:26 pm

Tipsy's at my castle lul, so I could kill him myself. Sorry tipsy

If either of Max or Tipsy are scum, we win tomorrow.

UNVOTE:

PB can you please acknowledge that you sent in the fast travel request?

Nero can you acknowledge you're not moving anywhere?

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:21 am

Let's hope Maxwell's scum, then

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:57 am

VOTE: maxwell

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:30 am

Yeah, travel, it's not a hammer anyway

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:30 am

UNVOTE:

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:03 am

In post 3494, Pink Ball wrote:Is it a public mechanic or do I have to PM SS?

PM him

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:45 am

In post 3505, maxwell wrote:
Arrest: Pink Ball's 2nd

Explain?

Auro · Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:13 pm

Even from a scumspective I don't see how it works out though

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:22 am

If Pork's team performed the NK on Pork as a gambit I'm happy losing to them

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:13 am

VOTE: Maxwell

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:18 am

Guys, there isn't a quickhammer

Execute

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:19 am

What? I mechanically can't be? Lol

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:20 am

Is that some twisted form of scumclaim lol

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:33 am

daykill: all

Since it's simultaneous, this should be a win for us

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:33 am

I hope I've not acted in haste.

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:34 am

Us townsfolk.

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:36 am

If I was scum I would've done this one or two phases ago.

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:37 am

Something_Smart not auto ending the game, and that everyone IS in my castle? Unless scum gave up

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:38 am

SS not locking the thread right now is interesting too

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:46 am

I love the flavor, Smart

Very GoT ending

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:47 am

I think I played bad, and town generally played meh as well, maybe excepting a couple slots. It's a little unfortunate that this mechanical win happened with two NLs.

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:51 am

Oh, wait, called Dave, Ygritte and Gobbles all correctly.

Dave, why would you try to kill me as you went down...?

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:58 am

In post 3548, Tipsy wrote:woooof lol.

why tf did maxwell arrest pinkball's second?

Anti-partner WIFOM

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:11 am

Daykills are strongman! Kinda OP and swingy

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:19 am

<3 Tipsy

I was lowkey townreading you in my heart, I had to kill you for mechanical optimal play though. (killing you means only one of you and Maxwell need to be scum, not doing so means I bet on just Maxwell)

Still can't figure out your alt

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:20 am

In post 3556, Tipsy wrote:also auro.. ur weird " u hav eanother pt" reaciton test... now u can see that how the heck was i even suppose to respond to that as town? xD it was like, inherently just an Odd Thing to say!

I thought you'd just say "No, I dont" first? Instead of cross checking to see how I'd get such info lolol

Auro · Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:26 am

Don't tell me! I'll hunt you down, I love guessing.

Auro · Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:34 pm

In post 3579, davesaz wrote:Mostly for the GoTness

All's good then

Auro · Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:51 am

Ah lol and I was reaction testing Tipsy about knowing he had another PT