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[DkKoba]

Koba, are NPOM and Tess independently scummy?

No i am seeing associatives wrt npom pretending to push on testa and now backpedaling

[VP Baltar]

I think the reason I'm tring snow is that she seems like she'a actually introspecting and also that she seems focused on things that people who are solving tend to be focused on

I need more specifics on "things". What things?

[NoPowerOverMe]

If no one is "scumreading" you then you're not doing your job. A DKK and VP push doesn't hurt me at all, as far as I'm concerned.

[DkKoba]

call me crazy but in my experience, 3 scum dynamic is easier to solve, if not at least get 2/3 early on over a 2 scum one in my experience in chat mafia. The struggle more lies in trying to coordinate town when theres 3 mafia available to distract and mislead

[NoPowerOverMe]

Koba, are NPOM and Tess independently scummy?

No i am seeing associatives wrt npom pretending to push on testa and now backpedaling

This makes no sense. I backpeadled once you started being scummy and I specificallys said so.

[DkKoba]

yeah if im scum then vote me! Wagon me! Am i not dangerous aas a loud voice if i am scum?? Or are you trying to ML elsewhere so u can save me for later?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Why the constant need for attention?

[DkKoba]

do u scumread me or not?

[NoPowerOverMe]

This isn't A Few Good Men. Like I said, I'm done with you.

[NoPowerOverMe]

This isn't A Few Good Men. Like I said, I'm done with you.

[DkKoba]

ok who do you scumread the most rn? Whos your tentative 3/3 or at least give me your 2 strongst scumreads

[VP Baltar]

Koba, are NPOM and Tess independently scummy?

No i am seeing associatives wrt npom pretending to push on testa and now backpedaling

So wouldn't flipping Tess make sense first? Trying to sort how much of this is you 1v1ing

[DkKoba]

Koba, are NPOM and Tess independently scummy?

No i am seeing associatives wrt npom pretending to push on testa and now backpedaling

So wouldn't flipping Tess make sense first? Trying to sort how much of this is you 1v1ing

Ofc it would. Im just not getting any sort of traction on that wagon rn and im impatient so the associative read is also acceptable considering they are flailing rn

[VP Baltar]

I'm open to being persuaded. I haven't seen a clear case on Tess, so lay it on me.

I'm much less confident on Billy since his catch up. Snow is still the coasting scum, and I don't have a strong third. Hit me with that sizzle reel.

[DkKoba]

I dont think ur suggestion of snow/billy scum makes sense ever with testa which is why u may be disagreeing with me here.

[DkKoba]

@mod requesting prod for GB and icon

[Andresvmb]

@DkKoba I think you should give it some time (the Testa push). I can see your impatience and I feel the same way myself, but this is a decent wagon and getting people on NPOM might take some additional convincing, which will only delay things more.

[Andresvmb]

i realized what's bugging me about andres, he has a kinda weirdly similar posting talking style to one player i played with a few months ago that was scum... or like really really reminds me of him. this itself is not scum-indicative however. but it's making me uneasy. i will have to reread his iso soon...

dkkoba vs npom fight is very likely a big waste of time.

i want alduskkel and georgebailey to do more things.

This has got to be the worst reason that has ever been expressed for a Scum Read of my slot.

Also, I disagree completely that this NPOM/DkKoba fight has been a waste of time. Unless this is TvT (and I’m obviously not seeing it), you know almost for certain that they are not the same alignment. The taunting and the attacks don’t strike me as theater. I have already been thinking NPOM is independently Scummy - this just confirms my suspicions. The push on DkKoba there is hard to understand, and it’s filled with misrepresentations.

[VP Baltar]

I dont think ur suggestion of snow/billy scum makes sense ever with testa which is why u may be disagreeing with me here.

I don't see snow and Tess as being exclusive.

[Billy Pilgrim]

that is such a shallow understanding lol

that logic applies best to chat mafia settings where days can literally last 3 minutes with a speed han.

u literally have >1000 posts of content already.

regardless ur point still doesn't address why u ranked testa so low and are allergic to hard hanging them. i have them just as low as u and I am calling for them to see rope v hard

This is a good point. You've got a mismatch between your reads list and conduct here, why?

[Billy Pilgrim]

To clarify based on recent discussion, mafia do have day talk. This has been reflected upon in the rules.

Did this change in the normal queue? Someone should update the wiki.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Can someone who is not Koba tell me if scum always have day chat? The fact that it needs to be in the rules makes me think not...

Another way to put it, has anyone played a recent game that didn't have scum day chat?

How recent? I played a game within the year that didn't have it, and it was a normal.

[Datisi]

i realized what's bugging me about andres, he has a kinda weirdly similar posting talking style to one player i played with a few months ago that was scum... or like really really reminds me of him. this itself is not scum-indicative however. but it's making me uneasy. i will have to reread his iso soon...

dkkoba vs npom fight is very likely a big waste of time.

i want alduskkel and georgebailey to do more things.

This has got to be the worst reason that has ever been expressed for a Scum Read of my slot.

Also, I disagree completely that this NPOM/DkKoba fight has been a waste of time. Unless this is TvT (and I’m obviously not seeing it), you know almost for certain that they are not the same alignment. The taunting and the attacks don’t strike me as theater. I have already been thinking NPOM is independently Scummy - this just confirms my suspicions. The push on DkKoba there is hard to understand, and it’s filled with misrepresentations.

don't get me wrong, it wasn't just that, i still think my early points on why i was scumreading you were valid. it was just a funny feeling in the back of my mind that i've figured out now.

meh, alright. i still think npom is hangbait, but /shrug, maybe i'm wrong. i'll give it a reread at some point. probably.

[Billy Pilgrim]

i realized what's bugging me about andres, he has a kinda weirdly similar posting talking style to one player i played with a few months ago that was scum... or like really really reminds me of him. this itself is not scum-indicative however. but it's making me uneasy. i will have to reread his iso soon...

This seems completely NAI, regardless. ISOing him seems fine, but being suspicious based on someone else talking similar...

...someone is coocoo for Coco puffs today

You read that as a reason for the scumread? I read that as Dats reconsidering his? Read based on realizing that he was probably conf!biasing based on the previous experience.

@Dats - can you clarify for me?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Is Test really that good of a wagon though? The wagons today in general have been more flimsy than not, in my opinion. Of course, that is generally true for day 1, but there is nothing wrong with calling a duck a duck and maybe something better will come along later in the day.

DKK kind of strikes me as a less mature version of Iconecum, to be honest. It's possible I overreacted to the initial OMGUS.

I need a good explanation of why Test>Janko.