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[tris]

Either you were bus drove or Hya’s lying and first one sounds iffy and second, extremely unlikely.

Gamma’s probably already given up. I admit from a purely emotional pov, I would prefer him today but Hya is saying you weren’t bus driven to Amy, so that is literally the only way you’re not guiltied and occams razer says that’s unlikely but she says that’s impossible and I don’t see why he’d lie.

Plus, why wouldn’t Maria have confirmed to both of us your “I do”, why just you? I was expecting Dunn to confirm your conditional bg on us being real and I think it would have been confirmed if it were true. I asked specifically to have both the “I do” thing confirmed and your part in submitting it and was told the mods couldn’t confirm any of it and now you’ve gotten confirmation of our “I do” but we’ve still gotten absolutely nothing.

I just think if your conditional bg was real, I wouldn’t have gotten the response that the mods couldn’t answer any of it. Why wouldn’t they have just backed you up if true? And why would either or Hya need to have done that anyway? Like in what world would either Hya or myself refuse the “I do”? No one in their right mind rehects a bg offer. And now you’re saying Hya isn’t protected but I am?

~M

it has to happen each night. hya was protected the first night.

why would you refuse? because you don't trust me maybe. like what if you're agreeing to something bad?

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I can roleblock whichever we don’t fade today.

+1

You always have to be the hammer though? I don’t trust scum not to try to mess with that. Had I not had unvoted, Gamma’s hammer would have been real.

I suggest that whomever puts whichever one at F-1 coordinate with you so you and whichever townie can do it back to back.

~M

[Gamma Emerald]

It's funny how FL accidently saved the town.
I tracked Amy to Tris.

Someone think about that for me before I gladiate

I can see what conclusion you're drawing here, but i'm not a killer. Still, it doesn't make sense that mafia would kill Amy. could this be a result of gamma busdriving? does that clear gamma. which in that case, who actually is mafia then? Flavor and jjh? are you actually mafia or something? that can't be right.

did the mafia actually decide to kill amy? that's a very odd move.

well, i guess we should hear what gamma has to say

So when Amphy claimed an even night role I believe I explicitly made a post reacting to that. That’s because my own role is odd-night. I understand this is very convenient, but think about the fact Amphy flipped an even night redirection role. Even if I am mafia, does it not make more sense for my role to be odd nights versus every night? And given that, think about how I claimed no modifier when I first claimed. What makes more sense there given I am odd night, giving a claim that I’ll have to retract or try to keep up via claiming a nonexistent action that could get me caught as scum, or trying to confuse scum into targeting suboptimally with a “safe kill” that I wouldn’t be able to predict and this wouldn’t be likely to get sent their way (assuming I targeted the kill and a scum)?

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Maria just confirmed to me that Tris if her bg claim is true would have directly targeted Amy. Not sure if that helps anything or not.

~M

[Gamma Emerald]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

just remembered that i was ALSO asked why i had VMP so high in my readslist

the short answer is that they give way too much of a shit about me answering their questions for them to be a wolf just asking questions for the sake of it

and it would be somewhat different if they were exclusively deathtunneling me but their focus has been broad enough that i think they're legitimately trying to solve my alignment

like at this point they're hayasaka-tier obvious town fmpov

How did I not locktown her? I missed this.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

oh right tris wanted me to articulate why i tr'd fl for that one page

lemme refresh my memory

ah yeah that's right

there was an undercurrent of low-level annoyance beneath his posting; think he was lowkey frustrated that his contributions thus far had been misunderstood/downplayed, in a "why do you not get what i'm talking about" kind of way

[Flavor Leaf]

So if any of you guys die, Tris = automatically 100% confirmed scum

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

If you want to sr Tris, actually sr her for something that hasn’t already been verified.



~M

[Gamma Emerald]

A busdriver couldn't stop my track it wouldn't work the way you guys think it would.

If Tris was bus driven then my track would tell me the name of the scum anyway.

So you’re saying it’s impossible that Tris was bus driven then?

Well, if Tris is scum, Gamma makes the most sense as her buddy. I guess Amy deserves a moment of brilliance scummy in that case, because she totally changed the game.

Tris!scum would definitely make sense and confirm FL’s role being real.

So DnD really did townTMI Amy and Amy flip + our role + FL’s mean Town is stacked. Another mark against Gamma being town BD, I think.

~M

Thoughts now that I’ve fully claimed my modifier?

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

So if any of you guys die, Tris = automatically 100% confirmed scum

Well she’s apparently walking back her Hya protect because she apparently didn’t do the “I do” thing but I’m not really buying it.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

Gamma is now trying to shade me and Hya by doubting that both of us were neighbourized by Tris.

Tris confirmed to me she neighbourized her D1 but nice try.

~M

[Gamma Emerald]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

If you want to sr Tris, actually sr her for something that hasn’t already been verified.



~M

I know it’s facts I’m talking about, but still, how did tris seemingly Neighborize two people? That’s what it seems is the case and it’s also a super weird thing to have happen.

[Gamma Emerald]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

Gamma is now trying to shade me and Hya by doubting that both of us were neighbourized by Tris.

Tris confirmed to me she neighbourized her D1 but nice try.

~M

Oh so it’s a day action? That makes some sense.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

Gamma is now trying to shade me and Hya by doubting that both of us were neighbourized by Tris.

Tris confirmed to me she neighbourized her D1 but nice try.

~M

Which Hya already confirmed but I’m really fascinated to see where you’re going with this.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I read it like Amy made all actions from Tris go to her.

All actions FROM Tris? So Hya claimed to have tracked Amy to Tris, so does this mean Tris tried to kill someone other than Amy but Amy got killed instead?

So Gamma could have bus drove Tris then.

I still think Gamma is super scummy. So, maybe that could be what happened and he framed her?

Okay, I didn’t want to out this but Tris neighbourized us last night and based off of everything she posted in our PT, Meryl Streep has some really steep competition if Tris is actually scum here.

~M

Wait so Tris has/had hoods with Amphy, VMP, and Haya? That doesn’t quite check out rn

Gamma is now trying to shade me and Hya by doubting that both of us were neighbourized by Tris.

Tris confirmed to me she neighbourized her D1 but nice try.

~M

Oh so it’s a day action? That makes some sense.

I got my hood with Tris immediately after the flips were posted.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

A busdriver couldn't stop my track it wouldn't work the way you guys think it would.

If Tris was bus driven then my track would tell me the name of the scum anyway.

So you’re saying it’s impossible that Tris was bus driven then?

Well, if Tris is scum, Gamma makes the most sense as her buddy. I guess Amy deserves a moment of brilliance scummy in that case, because she totally changed the game.

Tris!scum would definitely make sense and confirm FL’s role being real.

So DnD really did townTMI Amy and Amy flip + our role + FL’s mean Town is stacked. Another mark against Gamma being town BD, I think.

~M

Thoughts now that I’ve fully claimed my modifier?

Whether or not your role is real or not, our negative is meaningless because all scum!you has to do is not talk in your PT last night. If you weren’t aware of my role, it would actually mean something but your role is way to similar to Amy’s to be a town role - even with the modifier. Why not just make Amy an ungated self-redirector?

~M

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw FL, what are your thoughts on my modifier claim?

[Gamma Emerald]

A busdriver couldn't stop my track it wouldn't work the way you guys think it would.

If Tris was bus driven then my track would tell me the name of the scum anyway.

So you’re saying it’s impossible that Tris was bus driven then?

Well, if Tris is scum, Gamma makes the most sense as her buddy. I guess Amy deserves a moment of brilliance scummy in that case, because she totally changed the game.

Tris!scum would definitely make sense and confirm FL’s role being real.

So DnD really did townTMI Amy and Amy flip + our role + FL’s mean Town is stacked. Another mark against Gamma being town BD, I think.

~M

Thoughts now that I’ve fully claimed my modifier?

Whether or not your role is real or not, our negative is meaningless because all scum!you has to do is not talk in your PT last night. If you weren’t aware of my role, it would actually mean something but your role is way to similar to Amy’s to be a town role - even with the modifier. Why not just make Amy an ungated self-redirector?

~M

Last night

? How many times are you going to adjust minor details about your role, because this is I believe the first time you’ve mentioned having to post on a specific night.
Also, I feel like at this point you’re refusing to townread me in order to salvage your ego, seeing as you said there were things in your hydra OT you said you’d have to redact if I was town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Seems convenient.

Might be true regardless of alignment.

Idk why it wasn’t claimed yesterday.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Btw FL, what are your thoughts on my modifier claim?

If Amy had flipped N1 vig, would you honestly buy a N2 desperado in the same setup?

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

Arcana Cop
Tracker/Gladiator
Self redirector
Neighbor protector
Bus driver
Double voter
Jjh’s pick arcana role
TA Coroner

Yeah, idk what to make sense of the setup no matter what

[Flavor Leaf]

Vengeful self watcher
Whatever NM was
Whatever DnD was

[Flavor Leaf]

Then whatever KD and BEF is, and that’s the setup.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lol, did Gamma just do the italicized word scum tell? Haven’t seen that in ages.