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[Albert B. Rampage]

That's not your playstyle at all

My playstyle is subtle and calculated. Theres reason behind every decision.

[SirCakez]

Like when you vigged me because I was pushing you?

[innocentvillager]

cakez, while we're here i wanted to address an old point (maybe no longer relevant) you tried to get across but i still have a rebuttal to

when you brought up the whole "scum being comfortable with gamestate and not wanting outsider perspectives" thing, I responded by saying that points to me/midway/Noraa not being comprised of 2+ scum since we were the main suspects, probably in that order. Then, you said "that was yesterday, not anymore".

but I don't really understand what could've possibly changed so much? in your scum!innocentvillager world where my partners have deepwolfed and are comfortable with me eating the rope today, it doesn't make sense for my partner ABR to stick his neck out for scum!IV when a) I was already anticipated to be wagoned, so we've prepped the "fakeclaim" b) we're analyzing under the assumption he's trying to deepwolf and not take cc/other big risks with him and his other deepwolf

[Albert B. Rampage]

Like when you vigged me because I was pushing you?

You were tunneling on me so I vigged you. I proceeded to catch all the scum but they achieved their wincon before we could elim them even as a majority of town players.

[SirCakez]

cakez, while we're here i wanted to address an old point (maybe no longer relevant) you tried to get across but i still have a rebuttal to

when you brought up the whole "scum being comfortable with gamestate and not wanting outsider perspectives" thing, I responded by saying that points to me/midway/Noraa not being comprised of 2+ scum since we were the main suspects, probably in that order. Then, you said "that was yesterday, not anymore".

but I don't really understand what could've possibly changed so much? in your scum!innocentvillager world where my partners have deepwolfed and are comfortable with me eating the rope today, it doesn't make sense for my partner ABR to stick his neck out for scum!IV when a) I was already anticipated to be wagoned, so we've prepped the "fakeclaim" b) we're analyzing under the assumption he's trying to deepwolf and not take cc/other big risks with him and his other deepwolf

I think Noraa and ABR could have been behind that kill (not sure about midway). Alisae is a strong personality (like Noraa and ABR) and the less of those the easier it is to strongarm the game like ABR is trying right now.
This is why I don't think ABR and you are scum together anymore
Doesn't add up. That post was from before all the claims came out.

[SirCakez]

At that point Noraa and ABR were suspected but still could easily work out of it.

[innocentvillager]

Like as SOON as I'm hammered I guarantee he'll start playing up the "oops well we needed to PL him anyways" crap he did yesterday
Because he's scum

i don't see how anyone could consider eliminating you a PL or why you would think that?

[SirCakez]

I don't think people actually think that I'm saying that's what ABR is gonna say when there's a hammer so he can try to offload the responsibility for a town elim

[innocentvillager]

if people won't actually think it's a PL then why would scum!ABR use that as a dumb excuse afterwards that obviously no one is going to buy? you've done nothing remotely PL worthy compared to Shoshin, clearly ABR has every intention of taking full responsibility for this one

[innocentvillager]

otoh multiple people policy voted Shoshin including unwnd (town), Gamma, not just ABR

so they're completely different

im just worried because your reaction seems a little exaggerated

[innocentvillager]

@Datisi upon reflection i think your assessment of my early D1 posting being similar to D2 of 2175 is more wrong than i thought at the time you presented it

D2 that game i just like, didn't post, actively avoided posting, that's what i do as scum because i hate engaging with thread when i don't have to as scum

D1 this game, i actively engaged even if it wasn't always game-related

not saying it's necessarily townie, just, not really in line with my scum meta as you think if that helps

[innocentvillager]

me being gone for the D1 hammer this game really was coincidence, tbh I don't think I openwolf THAT much in terms of the timing around the hammer

like your hypothesis for my complete absence around the D1 hammer is scum!me intentionally posting up to point of hammer, then intentionally ducking out right when the hammer started so I wouldn't have to fake twilight posts, despite me and my partners all being aware of all of this and that it could perceived as scummy

i might not enjoy twilight posting, but i think I'd at least try to say *something* if i was aware of it?

if i was in your position, I would conclude that most likely innocentvillager truly was absent for the hammer/twilight on D1, making the timing NAI

[Datisi]

datisi do you think scum would roleblock me on N1 this game?

Zero chance of this. I will get RB for sure. But i think cakez is RB.

i highly doubt that but if i'm proven wrong i won't complain

[Datisi]

@iv i kinda disagree you were engaging because your posts looked like random one liners that didn't even seem to be connected to what's going on, but idk if there's any point talking about that anymore

as for the twilight thing, if that was actually a coincidence i'm gonna laugh really hard about it post game

[petapan]

midway's tone when pushed on their low presence felt like a butthurt townie as i said
peta picked up on a vibe i agree with, when IV seemed to be rolefishing
i think VP has a pleasant ISO if you read it

that is the...quaintest reason anyone has given to townread me

how does having a "pleasant ISO" equate to someone being town?

it's literally my first day in this game, my initial thoughts were asked, and i gave them.

I don't think we've played together, but my reads are mostly established from interaction rather then rereading. Other then that, they were my honest thoughts.

Also, leave my VP read alone. I'm probably right on them anyway.

i don't disagree with the conclusion but i'm not understanding the process to get there which is what i'm interested in

[VP Baltar]

Lot of pages over night, and glad Ico is finally here. I think their entrance into the game was towny on the whole given willingness to share hip reads and corner themselves immediately into ~

information

~

[VP Baltar]

Need to get my work day started and then I'll do a little catch up.

[SirCakez]

if people won't actually think it's a PL then why would scum!ABR use that as a dumb excuse afterwards that obviously no one is going to buy? you've done nothing remotely PL worthy compared to Shoshin, clearly ABR has every intention of taking full responsibility for this one

Nobody thought Shoshin was a PL either, until after hammer suddenly people were calling it one

[Noraa]

Me is catching up rn~

[petapan]

Lot of pages over night, and glad Ico is finally here. I think their entrance into the game was towny on the whole given willingness to share hip reads and corner themselves immediately into ~

information

~

would agree his intro is good on the whole, have some things i'd quibble with e.g. the midwaybear read but his reasoning for getting there wasn't bad. i am a little concerned about the softclaiming stuff though? b/c i have recently seen scum try to vaguely hint at pr stuff to try to get an execution through on a claimed town pr without explicitly counterclaiming

[Noraa]

Holy shit how many pages did y'all spam

[Noraa]

Ok so I'm basically not even gonna read. Im skimming up and if there's anything actually important, it'll have to be quoted.

[VP Baltar]

Lot of pages over night, and glad Ico is finally here. I think their entrance into the game was towny on the whole given willingness to share hip reads and corner themselves immediately into ~

information

~

would agree his intro is good on the whole, have some things i'd quibble with e.g. the midwaybear read but his reasoning for getting there wasn't bad. i am a little concerned about the softclaiming stuff though? b/c i have recently seen scum try to vaguely hint at pr stuff to try to get an execution through on a claimed town pr without explicitly counterclaiming

You think Ico could be softing to direct us toward the Cakez/IV/ABR stuff?

[petapan]

Lot of pages over night, and glad Ico is finally here. I think their entrance into the game was towny on the whole given willingness to share hip reads and corner themselves immediately into ~

information

~

would agree his intro is good on the whole, have some things i'd quibble with e.g. the midwaybear read but his reasoning for getting there wasn't bad. i am a little concerned about the softclaiming stuff though? b/c i have recently seen scum try to vaguely hint at pr stuff to try to get an execution through on a claimed town pr without explicitly counterclaiming

You think Ico could be softing to direct us toward the Cakez/IV/ABR stuff?

i'm apprehensive about the possibility

[Noraa]

So I really haven't been keeping up but I think that if ABR is town he needs to stop being overly tunnely and confident. Especially after Shoshin, I am reluctant to follow aggressive pushes and it makes me incredibly worried when I see them.