In post 474, clidd wrote:Dk, on an ethical level of play, would you act unresolvable energetically and self-assertively, not allowing the question of the AI character of your slot as scum?
when I'm scum I use the same strategy as town to get townread, because its easy, because people oftentimes will latch onto my NAI mannerisms and I can easily debunk them.
heres an example of me getting caught for the ~right~ reasons by varsoon -> my early reads were completely illogical and bad (was my first scumgame that wasn't avalon maf which wasnt really a maf game lol)
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
gun to head, basically like if i had to guess the whole team rn to win the game.
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
Dk is messing with my head in a very similar way to Ahsoka earlier. I hate it when people play with my perception. Maybe that's the thing that Raya and Gimli are feeling about me.
I honestly haven't gotten a strong impression from him yet but if he's town then he is a very easy miselim target at the current gamestate and I agree that it's odd Clidd didn't come to this conclusion first considering the townread on him.
I don't know if it was possible to absorb this in my explanation, but the scenario of scum wanting to miselim him was something that came to my mind primarily. The buss scenario, which came as a secondary, was an alternative interpretation that I considered as more improbable by comparison,
but not impossible.
I think this deserves to be quoted.
In post 304, clidd wrote:
I don't think that's the case, but if my impression of radja is wrong and he is scum, I believe that the second vote could be a buss, actually, even the first is possible, keeping in mind that Radja theoretically got more scummy over time. But this scenario is meh, I'm giving it less than a 30% chance.
when you say less than 30%, is that less than 30% of the times when radja is scum, or less than 30% in general?
also you could be right about this. The way I'm looking at the game, you're either scum or you've townread scum with very slim reasoning, to the point of e.g. the volxen/you relationship in thread looking like you were either TMI townreading town volxen or townreading a scum partner. The same kind of applies to radja, who I'm probably null on at this point, and there's like 4 people acting like they know what's up when he did nothing to justify it either way. if I'm right and ahsoka, raya and horsewoman are all town, then I think it's possible scum is happily bussing and letting you eat rope for it afterwards. also I just noticed I'm only now starting to consider seriously that lostego could be scum and you could be town and not scum with him. the same sort of situation applies to most people in the POE, it's really amazing how weak your relationships with my POE are. but man if you're town I wanna be able to sort this out cause you're showing your reasoning a lot and I'm supposed to.
sorry for the big post everyone, I'm off for the day
Going back to this.
Yes, it's 30% in general.
I can agree on Raya/Ahsoka being on town PoE, but horsewoman is a slot that you should probably revisit, it's not someone I'm very confident about.
The buss thesis is something I would like to discuss if the PoE is complete. I'm leaning town on radja for that emotional read that I mentioned. If you diverge from my impression, I would appreciate a help.
In post 437, Gimli wrote:anyone who quotes #426 is on my blacklist
dont care
wheres the progression here
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
He saw what Ahsoka said and assimilated the internal impression he was having there (I think).
I also felt the same thing.
Although the time it occurred was grossly sporadic, I don't think it is scummy.
Another point is that it would be very evident to scum!Gimli that changing his posture quickly like that would bring up a later question about the behavior, something he would probably be more cautious about.
I imagine scum!He would look at Ahsuka's posts, comment on them (probably agreeing) and say that he would take a look later to see if he really was going to change his mind. It would be more organic from his perspective to create this contextual delay between the change of opinion. The jump of pov over the slot that occurred is not a move that makes sense to scum!him.
well if hes town i want him to explain the thought process.
that way i can better understand how he approaches the game.
theres no issue with me pushing for someone to explain their path from point A to B
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
worded that weirdly -> if he's town he should have no issue explaining the thought process
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"1 thing I will give you Dk, I think you are very good at manipulating. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just think you [have] this way with yourself. You know what to say and when to say [it]." ~VFP
"Koba doesn't really have a scumrange/townrange, Koba will kill your pet cat to win a game" ~Pooky
In post 490, clidd wrote:Another point is that it would be very evident to scum!Gimli that changing his posture quickly like that would bring up a later question about the behavior, something he would probably be more cautious about.
I imagine scum!He would look at Ahsuka's posts, comment on them (probably agreeing) and say that he would take a look later to see if he really was going to change his mind. It would be more organic from his perspective to create this contextual delay between the change of opinion. The jump of pov over the slot that occurred is not a move that makes sense to scum!him.
to what end is this speculation worthwhile if you don't properly seek out the answers?
Raya, I don't remember if I addressed this directly in my posts, but it was the dominant impression I had in mind. I expressed this indirectly in post 304 when I speculated a scum!hw angle.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
