BooneyToonz XV: Dance of the Dark Fairy [Third Moonlight]

[DkKoba]

murder ur being like metal game covers where ur just .. passive and not helping

You mean I'm playing to my meta? lol

Quote the posts in the morning and I'll look at them

ur so easily pocketed by scum and resist town i swear

[Lunar Martian]

I've been burned on misreading Math's playstyle as scummy too many times before

Would you say Math goes out of his way as Town to look very Townish? Because I'm getting the impression that Math is going out of his way to look like Town, to look cooperative, and to look Trusting.

[Lunar Martian]

And the Flea wagon is still excellent
Fae popped in, complained about my vote on them, and left

Flea is certainly going out of faer way to do nothing, but I still think there are other things that suggest fae are Town.

[Special BROvert Ops]

murder ur being like metal game covers where ur just .. passive and not helping

that's kinda the norm for town!murder
he was like that in Among Us and Student Council

-Henry

[Sequence]

Starting back at page 63...

elimming someone because this day one has gone on far far too long.

What makes you think the day has gone on too long? It might be over 60 pages, but that's rather typical for a large theme. We still have several days left til deadline as well.

No will in their words, posts read off as required. Ask yourself if you can remember a substantial thing Flea has done this game, whether it be in relation to faer or anyone else then come back to me

A lot of this sounds like playstyle reasons. I don't think you are necessarily wrong here that to a neutral bystander, it might look off, but you do need to adjust to account for individuals' playstyles.

Why are you assuming 4-5 scum?

It's 16 players. It is almost certainly 12-4 or 11-3-1. It's assumption, yes, but it is a reasonable assumption backed by much prior evidence/general good setup design knowledge.

I had a person I wanted to poke, they're like super flakey and never here.

Who was that? Your posts are easy to gloss over.

(This is a joke) I claim open smooth paratrooper who dies if someone says a secret word!

Now I have a limited shelf life

This is not at all an apt comparison. samantha claimed something that's pretty much guaranteed to die one way or another. There's very little room to wiggle out. If she fesses up to faking, she gets limmed. She's dead by the end of night 2 at the latest. On the other hand, what you are claiming here is something that is super vague. Thus, you would be able to wriggle your way out of a sticky situation. By keeping it vague, you make it very possible to modify the claim on the fly. Being able to survive almost the entire game (as you would with such a claim) is not even comparable to a limited shelf life.

Why did your slot vote itself?

Why are you still interested in this? I doubt me answering this will help you find scum to any significant degree. Maybe it would change your read on us by 1%, but there are far more important things you should be focusing your attention on than a self-vote 50 pages ago.

his posts since joining have been self-centered and defensive, and don't show a genuine interest in knowing what happened in this game or who mafia are

I don't think Math's posts here have been great. At the same time, I would encourage exercising patience. Math only replaced in today. That's not a lot of time to catch up on 60+ pages. Let him take the time to get a full handle on the game then make your judgement.

klickslot+norweeslot+ircher s

Wow, your lack of awareness really shows here. You don't even bother referring to ANY of the three slots by their current username.

My gut is they are 3P but that’s purely gut based on tone of post.

Great, now explain why you are wasting your time on someone you think is 3rd party rather than finding actual scum.

Hell it may be true in all but alignment (ie just remove the friendly part)

This is extraordinarily unlikely. The role samantha claimed is not the kind of role scum would get, not even close.

she’d have been open to me sorting her and not just reactively voting me.

I'm pretty sure she didn't? She waited and only voted you after you persisted.

She literally noted hey XYZ said “blah” in a nice convenient post for scum

Okay, but that doesn't make her scum does it? On the contrary, couldn't she have just posted it in their PT as scum?

At bottom of page 66.
~Ircher

[Special BROvert Ops]

im too gay for this

okey
btw I don't exactly like the way math asked that question to you

-Henry

[Rei and Asuka]

Why are you still interested in this? I doubt me answering this will help you find scum to any significant degree. Maybe it would change your read on us by 1%, but there are far more important things you should be focusing your attention on than a self-vote 50 pages ago.

Because it bothers me and I don't get why with a wagon on you on page 10 you opt to self-vote.

I can see some of Bell's posts coming from town but Ircher your slot is making it really hard not keep you toward bottom of PoE, why did that strike you as a good or town-motivated idea?

Also talking about lack of awareness, my whole point in the other post you commented on was that I was identifying the slots that are most concerning from a WIM pov...

-A

[SirCakez]

I'm jet lagged.

Rei and Asuka basically posted their town role to the thread while I was away, so that's nice.

Townreading Ircher now. I like how combative he is, not taking the easy way out of any argument. I also read the frustration in his tone as townie.

Norwegianboy's floating in and out - lots of questions and not many takes. I couldn't find a single nuanced thought process in his posts. It's cookie cutter scum behavior.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

was this literally all you had to contribute since your last post?

-Henry

newflash Nylaa is scum

I'd be happier with a nylaa wagon than a flea wagon right now

I would join if this formed

VOTE: sircakez

if u scumread cakez or have him in ur poe VOTE HIM kk?>>>???

this dude is so agenda pushy and trying to protect partners so obv after they played a bussy game its so sloppy and poor played get him OUTA here

Sell me on this please. I am open to going Cakez, but most of the people I'm most confident are Town are pretty confident that Cakez is Town.

spoiler: they can't cuz Koba is scum

I've been burned on misreading Math's playstyle as scummy too many times before

Would you say Math goes out of his way as Town to look very Townish? Because I'm getting the impression that Math is going out of his way to look like Town, to look cooperative, and to look Trusting.

no Math is always very oppositional regardless of alignment and I'm getting that here

And the Flea wagon is still excellent
Fae popped in, complained about my vote on them, and left

Flea is certainly going out of faer way to do nothing, but I still think there are other things that suggest fae are Town.

spill it

[MathBlade]

Underlines are me because mobile I have backed off Sam as of this post and they are in my WTF pile but I feel the why would be important to Ircher

Starting back at page 63...

elimming someone because this day one has gone on far far too long.

What makes you think the day has gone on too long? It might be over 60 pages, but that's rather typical for a large theme. We still have several days left til deadline as well.

What’s typical isn’t always right. Games on another site (which I won’t mention because I don’t do free advertising or out my alts that don’t have the Math stigma) take many many less pages and have a higher success rate. At some point you’re just spinning your wheels and not progressing. That’s what is happening here. No one is talking. It’s all “listen to my scumread I know best”. There’s no cooperation. At some point you have to come together and talk before apathy sets in.

No will in their words, posts read off as required. Ask yourself if you can remember a substantial thing Flea has done this game, whether it be in relation to faer or anyone else then come back to me

A lot of this sounds like playstyle reasons. I don't think you are necessarily wrong here that to a neutral bystander, it might look off, but you do need to adjust to account for individuals' playstyles.

Why are you assuming 4-5 scum?

It's 16 players. It is almost certainly 12-4 or 11-3-1. It's assumption, yes, but it is a reasonable assumption backed by much prior evidence/general good setup design knowledge.

However we don’t know if it’s multiball or 3P scum or regular group scum. 5 scum would be way too big for this unless multiball. I agree that the possibilities up there are likely but that can’t be assumed. And that’s where I take issue with the question. You want me to assume single ball when there’s tonal evidence otherwise that no townblock has formed yet.

I had a person I wanted to poke, they're like super flakey and never here.

Who was that? Your posts are easy to gloss over.

(This is a joke) I claim open smooth paratrooper who dies if someone says a secret word!

Now I have a limited shelf life

This is not at all an apt comparison. samantha claimed something that's pretty much guaranteed to die one way or another. There's very little room to wiggle out. If she fesses up to faking, she gets limmed. She's dead by the end of night 2 at the latest. On the other hand, what you are claiming here is something that is super vague. Thus, you would be able to wriggle your way out of a sticky situation. By keeping it vague, you make it very possible to modify the claim on the fly. Being able to survive almost the entire game (as you would with such a claim) is not even comparable to a limited shelf life.

It was a joke to point out she doesn’t and even if she did that doesn’t make her idea of mass claim any better. That wasn’t a serious claim as noted by “This is a joke”.

Why did your slot vote itself?

Why are you still interested in this? I doubt me answering this will help you find scum to any significant degree. Maybe it would change your read on us by 1%, but there are far more important things you should be focusing your attention on than a self-vote 50 pages ago.

his posts since joining have been self-centered and defensive, and don't show a genuine interest in knowing what happened in this game or who mafia are

I don't think Math's posts here have been great. At the same time, I would encourage exercising patience. Math only replaced in today. That's not a lot of time to catch up on 60+ pages. Let him take the time to get a full handle on the game then make your judgement.

klickslot+norweeslot+ircher s

Wow, your lack of awareness really shows here. You don't even bother referring to ANY of the three slots by their current username.

My gut is they are 3P but that’s purely gut based on tone of post.

Great, now explain why you are wasting your time on someone you think is 3rd party rather than finding actual scum.

If she’s 3P then she’s scum siding 3P and doing their job for them. Notice my vote isn’t on her. But sorting her as to whether she is scum is important to assess the merits of what she was saying.

Hell it may be true in all but alignment (ie just remove the friendly part)

This is extraordinarily unlikely. The role samantha claimed is not the kind of role scum would get, not even close.

she’d have been open to me sorting her and not just reactively voting me.

I'm pretty sure she didn't? She waited and only voted you after you persisted.

She didn’t answer any of them and immediately attacked me for trying to hunt her. I am not going to apologize for hunting someone being antitown and trying to sort them. If she elims me because I am suspicious because I ask why she wants a D1 mass claim that’s a her problem. I will almost always push someone who asks for a D1 mass claim

She literally noted hey XYZ said “blah” in a nice convenient post for scum

Okay, but that doesn't make her scum does it? On the contrary, couldn't she have just posted it in their PT as scum?

At bottom of page 66.
~Ircher

[Special BROvert Ops]

if I had 4 shot vigilante right now I'd shoot mafiacat, brovert, flea, and rei and asuka

only person in this pool I'm not really feeling as town rn is flea

-Henry

[Special BROvert Ops]

*hydra partner

It's not a slip; don't even angleshoot that.
~Ircher

I'm just curious how it happened

also sequence roleclaimed to me and it's believable with the context of our conversation and underwhelming

put them on your shelves for now

does the defeatism stem from it?

-Henry

[Sequence]

MathBlade the towniest town to ever town
(lunar,RA,MurderCat ...reasons)
Sequence << D1 wagon was weird and self vote seems to be of frustration and Bell didn’t have to try to pull my head out of my ass if he was scum
Titus << Titus wouldn’t soft defend me as scum here
SirCakez << Usually I get weird pings if they are scum or towns usually figure this out super quick. So for the fact he hasn’t been a wagon prolly town.
Unwd << I like how they are trying to lead and get this day done. We need a leader.
Koba << Them not pressuring me is natural for once
Toogeloo << Miller claim seems correct

—-WTF >> Samantha

—— Would elim below this line
Nylaathria, Special BROvert Ops >> who?
Flea The Magician >> Give me something
RCEnigma >> Opening sucked
Angel Warriors >> Either I don’t get what she was alluding to or I don’t buy it or I am giving her PR cover here since people don’t listen to me.

Fairly decent reads. I would have Rei and Asuka much lower, but the rest looks fine.

I liked their opening and since them they have posted nothing objectionable
Yet I'm seeing a lot of people just plop them into their SRs

I haven't seen much at all from them and what I have seen have not really impressed me. I don't have any specific examples, but the general feel is that they are coasting... which probably is at least partially a playstyle issue... but nonetheless, I would still expect more from them than what I am seeing.

this dude is so agenda pushy and trying to protect partners so obv after they played a bussy game its so sloppy and poor played get him OUTA here

I don't see this. What agenda is he pushing?

pedit: What if she's actually a mass hallucination, have you thought about that? Huh? Have you?

Posts like these don't help you, ya know.

Fwiw now that math is here I want to vote him more than sequence which probably makes them town so I've been told by people better at mafia than me.

This feels very convenient for you.

I'd be happier with a nylaa wagon than a flea wagon right now

I would be as well. I can't even remember the last time I read a Nylaa post.

Because it bothers me and I don't get why with a wagon on you on page 10 you opt to self-vote.

This is a non-answer. Idc that it bothers you; the point remains it does very little to help you solve. You might get a 5% more confident read on our slot, and that's about it. The big picture view suggests that your asking is a waste of time and space. If I wanted to answer, I would have done so already anyway.

What’s typical isn’t always right. Games on another site

I'm gonna snip you off right there. The first is true--every rule has an exception. (Does that rule have an exception as well? Who knows?) That being said, the second part is incomparable. Games on other sites operate on different metas from games on this site. It's like trying to compare apples to oranges; you can do it, but it won't be a meaningful comparison. The general consensus is that more discussion is usually more beneficial to town, so while there does come a point where it may become excessive, more tends to be better. We haven't reached the stagnating phase yet, so I don't agree that now's a good time to end conversation.

However we don’t know if it’s multiball or 3P scum or regular group scum

Did you read the checklist? The game isn't multiball. There may or may not be third party.

To bottom of 1735.
~Ircher

[MURDERCAT]

ur so easily pocketed by scum and resist town i swear

let's talk in the morning lol

VOTE: Nylaa

Let's see what happens with this

[DkKoba]

ur so easily pocketed by scum and resist town i swear

let's talk in the morning lol

VOTE: Nylaa

Let's see what happens with this

ur vanity vote is wildly unhelpful

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Nylaa

[SirCakez]

I'm jet lagged.

Rei and Asuka basically posted their town role to the thread while I was away, so that's nice.

Townreading Ircher now. I like how combative he is, not taking the easy way out of any argument. I also read the frustration in his tone as townie.

Norwegianboy's floating in and out - lots of questions and not many takes. I couldn't find a single nuanced thought process in his posts. It's cookie cutter scum behavior.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Nylaa grand contribution from the last 1000 posts

[Special BROvert Ops]

I'm cooling my revision of Gamma/A50 after seeing A50 post elsewhere.

okay now you're just being a derp

-Henry

[Sequence]

VOTE: Nylaa
~Ircher

[Rei and Asuka]

VOTE: cakez

Yeah

You can't just keep pushing town cakez

I felt a townping from you at one point but you're not allowed to push my townblock

-A

[DkKoba]

fuck u @murder


i wanted to go for my bottom poe but whatever VOTE: nylaa

i hope this flips town and u actually listen to my reads d2

[MathBlade]

MathBlade the towniest town to ever town
(lunar,RA,MurderCat ...reasons)
Sequence << D1 wagon was weird and self vote seems to be of frustration and Bell didn’t have to try to pull my head out of my ass if he was scum
Titus << Titus wouldn’t soft defend me as scum here
SirCakez << Usually I get weird pings if they are scum or towns usually figure this out super quick. So for the fact he hasn’t been a wagon prolly town.
Unwd << I like how they are trying to lead and get this day done. We need a leader.
Koba << Them not pressuring me is natural for once
Toogeloo << Miller claim seems correct

—-WTF >> Samantha

—— Would elim below this line
Nylaathria, Special BROvert Ops >> who?
Flea The Magician >> Give me something
RCEnigma >> Opening sucked
Angel Warriors >> Either I don’t get what she was alluding to or I don’t buy it or I am giving her PR cover here since people don’t listen to me.

Fairly decent reads. I would have Rei and Asuka much lower, but the rest looks fine.

I liked their opening and since them they have posted nothing objectionable
Yet I'm seeing a lot of people just plop them into their SRs

I haven't seen much at all from them and what I have seen have not really impressed me. I don't have any specific examples, but the general feel is that they are coasting... which probably is at least partially a playstyle issue... but nonetheless, I would still expect more from them than what I am seeing.

this dude is so agenda pushy and trying to protect partners so obv after they played a bussy game its so sloppy and poor played get him OUTA here

I don't see this. What agenda is he pushing?

pedit: What if she's actually a mass hallucination, have you thought about that? Huh? Have you?

Posts like these don't help you, ya know.

Fwiw now that math is here I want to vote him more than sequence which probably makes them town so I've been told by people better at mafia than me.

This feels very convenient for you.

I'd be happier with a nylaa wagon than a flea wagon right now

I would be as well. I can't even remember the last time I read a Nylaa post.

Because it bothers me and I don't get why with a wagon on you on page 10 you opt to self-vote.

This is a non-answer. Idc that it bothers you; the point remains it does very little to help you solve. You might get a 5% more confident read on our slot, and that's about it. The big picture view suggests that your asking is a waste of time and space. If I wanted to answer, I would have done so already anyway.

What’s typical isn’t always right. Games on another site

I'm gonna snip you off right there. The first is true--every rule has an exception. (Does that rule have an exception as well? Who knows?) That being said, the second part is incomparable. Games on other sites operate on different metas from games on this site. It's like trying to compare apples to oranges; you can do it, but it won't be a meaningful comparison. The general consensus is that more discussion is usually more beneficial to town, so while there does come a point where it may become excessive, more tends to be better. We haven't reached the stagnating phase yet, so I don't agree that now's a good time to end conversation.

However we don’t know if it’s multiball or 3P scum or regular group scum

Did you read the checklist? The game isn't multiball. There may or may not be third party.

To bottom of 1735.
~Ircher

TLDR Math is dumb. No multiball so yeah that expectation is reasonable because mass 3P isn’t mafia.

[Rei and Asuka]

I'm jet lagged.

Rei and Asuka basically posted their town role to the thread while I was away, so that's nice.

Townreading Ircher now. I like how combative he is, not taking the easy way out of any argument. I also read the frustration in his tone as townie.

Norwegianboy's floating in and out - lots of questions and not many takes. I couldn't find a single nuanced thought process in his posts. It's cookie cutter scum behavior.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Nylaa grand contribution from the last 1000 posts

This is an actively terrible post

Scum nyla does not try to pocket me like 1327. You are quoting townie posts and then complaining about it

-A

[Rei and Asuka]

Koba gtfo nylaa

Don't treason on the catgiffairies

[Special BROvert Ops]

I'm disappointed Almost50 isn't around. Did Almost50 give you a reason for their absence?

nope, although it seems p much site wide? He hasn't been posting much in the hydra PT (neither have I, but that's mostly because my notes got compressed into a text wall rather than being drawn out across several post reactions

-Henry

VOTE: Nylaa
sorry R+A but the vote is valid
Dk is on the level

[Sequence]

that's 5 in the last page. I can't remember if Nylaa had any votes earlier.
~Ircher