BooneyToonz XV: Dance of the Dark Fairy [Third Moonlight]

[DkKoba]

nylaa is claimed in our hood and their claim is verfiable + extremely specific

[samantha97]

unlike most people here, sequence has roleclaimed fully and like I said it made sense in the context of our conversation

yes it's possible he is mafia, but there are a bunch of people that make more sense to lynch

[unwnd]

Hey noraa

VOTE: Sequence

Shiny carrot for you

No I'm not changing, this had enough votes for the time

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[Titus]

NO ONE FUCKING CLAIM PTS OR WHAT FLAVOR U HAVE OR THE NAMES OF UR PTS SCUM PROB HAVE ABILITIES THAT WORK WITH THEM AND I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THIS AS WELL BASED ON A CLAIM IN ONE OF MY HOODS

2 l8 4 that yolo

and this is why u need to die

Scum already know the membership of large hoods most likely.

[DkKoba]

NO ONE FUCKING CLAIM PTS OR WHAT FLAVOR U HAVE OR THE NAMES OF UR PTS SCUM PROB HAVE ABILITIES THAT WORK WITH THEM AND I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THIS AS WELL BASED ON A CLAIM IN ONE OF MY HOODS

2 l8 4 that yolo

and this is why u need to die

Scum already know the membership of large hoods most likely.

VOTE: titus

you're right.

[Titus]

nylaa is claimed in our hood and their claim is verfiable + extremely specific

unlike most people here, sequence has roleclaimed fully and like I said it made sense in the context of our conversation

yes it's possible he is mafia, but there are a bunch of people that make more sense to lynch

What are these claims? I need to know these.

[samantha97]

What are these claims? I need to know these.

why ask for pt composition and not offer yours

[Titus]

@Samantha, We're supposed to be phasing out lynch.

[DkKoba]

nylaa is claimed in our hood and their claim is verfiable + extremely specific

unlike most people here, sequence has roleclaimed fully and like I said it made sense in the context of our conversation

yes it's possible he is mafia, but there are a bunch of people that make more sense to lynch

What are these claims? I need to know these.

nope!

[Titus]

What are these claims? I need to know these.

why ask for pt composition and not offer yours

DKKoba, myself, RCE, MURDERCAT and flea

[RCEnigma]

OK

R+A, RCEnigma, MURDERCAT, Myself, Sam, Titus, Angel Warriors, BROvert Ops, Lunar..? (Only here cause I feel they'd vote if I told them to)

I'm tired of this day. Stop letting this madness go on. If you're listed here let's talk compromise. I imagine some of you are even hesitant on others listed here. That's fine. D1 is not meant to drag out this goddamn long, so I'm gonna make this simple. Declare intent on

one

person you would lim today. That's it, no more no less. I don't care about the reason, but if can meet the amount of votes needed to lim someone then following that we start a wagon on them. I don't give a shit who at this point, and the reason (if your name is here) is because in some regard I townread you for D1 so you can go ahead and pat yourself on the back if you're fooling me for today.

Sequence for me.

Mine would be Gamma hydra but that's in your list so I'll go with Nylaa.

I could compromise on gamma. My reasoning for towning them is paper thin and old meta based.

[SirCakez]

Why do claims make someone town

you have to explain why they aren't part of your equation, not that they confirm someone as town

Ok

A special look at DkKoba

VOTE: sircakez

if u scumread cakez or have him in ur poe VOTE HIM kk?>>>???

this dude is so agenda pushy and trying to protect partners so obv after they played a bussy game its so sloppy and poor played get him OUTA here

they being pushing me

Would love a votecount

vote cakez

more pushing me

Yes yes bussing I get it I'm figuring out who would be the best lim in terms of fucking scum the most

who cares. litearly just vote

frustration because they can't get people to vote me

Isn't it frustrating when other players don't see what you see?

ME EVERY GAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

frustration because they can't get people to vote me

so why wont u trust me on shit im voting

frustration because they can't get people to vote me

ur so easily pocketed by scum and resist town i swear

let's talk in the morning lol

VOTE: Nylaa

Let's see what happens with this

ur vanity vote is wildly unhelpful

NOW SUDDENLY THEY JOIN A WAGON ON SOMEONE IM PUSHING NYLAA DESPITE REPEATED EXPRESSIONS OF FRUSTRATION ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET VOTES ON ME
?????????????????????????

fuck u @murder


i wanted to go for my bottom poe but whatever VOTE: nylaa

i hope this flips town and u actually listen to my reads d2

OBVIOUS excuses for bussing Nylaa

VOTE: cakez

my vote is on nylaa in spirit

now playing both sides, including the catch-all of "being on Nylaa" in spirit so that if Nylaa gets pushed through they can still retain some cred from the scum elim

fast elims are often the work of scum ~~~~~~~~~~~ just saying

SAYS THIS BUT DOES NOT OPPOSE NYLAA WAGON WHICH IS WHAT THEY WERE PRESUMABLY REFERRING TO
????????????

VOTE: nylaa

if im horribly wrong ill explain.

if not well fuck u i wont explain thats up to u to figure out why i revoted.

BACK TO WAGON THEY JUST CALLED SCUM MOTIVATED
?????

UNVOTE:

VOTE: sircakez

having an aneurysm?

VOTE: mathblade

THEN JOINS WAGON ON OBVTOWN MATHBLADE BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING NOWHERE ON ME AND MB IS PICKING UP STEAM

u can thank norwee for the reason im voting here cuz i kinda havent read much of what u have posted and much of it hasnt pinged me as town or scum.

with batshit awful reasoning of Norwe was scummy, ignoring everything MB has posted

not sure how it being "stale" = wrong

awful excuse

cakez this is possibilly the worst scumcase ive ever seen anyone try to toss against me.

My hood mates can take a look at it and know how half of that shit is bunk.

Can you refute anything? No ofc not
I don't care about your hood mates

Okay since there is presumably infer there is a town inside Titus/Math/Cakez/Ircher, although I don't really guarantee there's more than two town in there, I'll try to walk it through as best I can given a) there hasn't been mass claim yet and we don't want to give scum more than we have to and b) ircher is right that it's hard to explain without referring to the wording of your own role PM.

I think that is unnecessary now, though.

Point a: Scum would not look at the sample role PM and think that someone would be confused as whether they are town or scum.
(point a.1? I don't think Boon almost ever gives sample fakeclaims. He did specify the flavor of town but that was it and that's about all I'd expect, but this game is more "theme" ish than some of his games so we can bracket this point -- even so, he provided a sample VT PM and scum have access to the entire list of boon roles so there's no strong incentive for him to provide fakeclaims)

Point b: Alisae observed that they thought they might be scum in 79 when reading their role PM.
Point b1: Lunar had a similar-ish reaction in pre-game.

Point c: At least seven people have now observed that they either experienced confusion about their alignment, or thought confusion about alignment might be town indicative, which is basically the same thing. In this sense, we know at *least some town experienced confusion about their alignment in regard to their rolecard* and, given point a, we have no reason to think scum would have an incentive to fake doubt about their alignment in the *early game* before it was discussed.

Point d: Since scum *would not know* why Alisae experienced doubt about their alignment, scum *would not know how to explain* why they thought they might be scum or why they would sympathize with Alisae's point, and this is what Nyla observed in 314.

From this, we can infer that Alisae's slot (Koba) and Nyla have both made

strongly town indicative

posts because scum are

very unlikely to have experienced similar thought processes upon seeing the sample VT PM,

and it seems pretty likely now that

multiple

town slots experienced that sensation, making the first slots to either register that feeling or to have picked up on it are therefore much more town indicative. (This isn't the same thing as saying people who didn't pick up on it are scum since different people process information in different ways.)

As Sam observed, scum can easily say they would have been confused after the fact, especially after a claim, or a first flip, or someone discussing the point. I didn't want to go into too much detail because it's an observation that could have had continued value in regard to later claims. But these are the first slots in the thread to have registered that sensation, and Nyla finding Koba town for it is now *strongly town indicative* now that we know how many players (more than can possibly be scum) have registered that point.

Now Math when we talked in the PT was like "oh no scum can fake what Nyla said there" and I think that's just complete bullshit. Scum very, very rarely would fake a townread on a slot for confusion on their role PM if they did not understand where that confusion came from. Is it 'theoretically impossible'? No, but Koba and Nyla (and Lunar, although his posts on this point were in my PT) are both way, way more likely to be town off those two posts in and of themselves than the slots that have been pushing them this dayphase.

I don't believe anything there is too OOG. You can complain that it's like a, mech-related reaction test, but if so it's one precipitated by the mod not any players by having made confusingly worded town PMs. But ignoring the free townreads there would just be dumb.

-A

So your whole town case is based on confusing role pm reactions? I can't buy this

[DkKoba]

litearlly everyone u described in my iso is a description of my townplay cakez literally stfu

[Titus]

I'm having trouble keeping up with the PT claims and roleclaims. It would be very helpful for me to have this information.

[DkKoba]

I'm having trouble keeping up with the PT claims and roleclaims. It would be very helpful for me to have this information.

nope fuck off ur scum

[SirCakez]

can we at least collectively agree there is at least 1 mafia inside of lunar martian/rei and asuka/mathblade/mafiacat? isn't that a fair assumption not just because of behavior but because they are all in the same pt?

This game is apparently infested with hoods so this logic won't hold

if almost every player in the game is in a PT, solving scum in PTs is not really going to help

almost every player is not in a 4 player pt

There are players in multiple hoods. I'm not 100% down for hood poe as our main mode of hunting parameters day 1.

^

[SirCakez]

litearlly everyone u described in my iso is a description of my townplay cakez literally stfu

Nah you actually make a modicum of sense as town

[SirCakez]

I can go back to Sequence for compromise

[DkKoba]

hey town: if u have half a brain for mech analysis, this sort of play comes from scum more often than not >>>>>>>> dont let this shit s lide

[DkKoba]

litearlly everyone u described in my iso is a description of my townplay cakez literally stfu

Nah you actually make a modicum of sense as town

do u townread titus outting our whole hood?

[Titus]

@Samantha, Can you help me out?

It's going to take hours over nightphase to do otherwise.

[SirCakez]

litearlly everyone u described in my iso is a description of my townplay cakez literally stfu

Nah you actually make a modicum of sense as town

do u townread titus outting our whole hood?

Idgaf
Titus is scummy independently of that

[DkKoba]

and there is titus reverting to focusing on mechs cuz they have nothing of substance at all to add cuz their stances are bullshit and have 0 depth

[SirCakez]

So sick of people this game going b-but the hood b-but the claim
WHO CARES

[samantha97]

I'm having trouble keeping up with the PT claims and roleclaims. It would be very helpful for me to have this information.

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