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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:00 am

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I'M SORRY

FALSE DRILL EVERYONE

I THINK SS IS STILL MORE LIKELY SCUM THAN NOT BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING

I'M SORRY I MAY BE DUMB, BEAR WITH ME
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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:03 am

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In post 1698, Isis wrote:my towncase had nothing to so with his role. only one power role that wasnt involved
yeah, but I thought he had kinda hinted he hadn't claimed yet, wasn't a tracker or something, and you had gone along with it

but upon re:reading I may be dumb
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"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
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"Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lim him and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum"
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:04 am

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yeah I believe that's a sarcasm questionmark. I don't know if sarcasm is the precise word it's a rhetorical instrument that's not a question

i think i never answered his question, the reason you would hypoclaim as claimed slot instead of hardclaiming 1 target is you can spread it over 8 slots so that scum can't shoot the person you're tracking for double value, removing both a townie and player who would have been tracked to clear either S_S or the trackee's slot.
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:06 am

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I'm just depressed now

my pet perspective tells dead count is already 2 and we didn't even end D1 yet
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"listen i know its funny to say shirou is scum but shirou is just literally crazy"
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:06 am

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I look so idiotic at the moment that it's not funny

I should go do something else
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:33 am

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re:reading more I don't know how to explain exactly how I came to the conclusion he was claiming not-tracker to be fair
In post 1667, Isis wrote:I'm not caught up yet but I want S_S not answering about hypoclaiming his own actions to be a vanilla-slip
I did read this post and thought "yeah, that was weird out of him, not impossible it can be worked as evidence to a fakeclaim, but it's too dependent on his philosophy about hypo claiming"
In post 1669, Something_Smart wrote:Wait why would I hypoclaim my own actions? My slot already claimed...?
I did read this post and it seemed like him saying "Did my slot already claimed? Why would I hypoclaim actions?" somehow, which I knew had to be a lie since he had already recognized the tracker claim before

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In post 1676, Isis wrote:I would not vote S_S if he was VT at this point
In post 1680, Something_Smart wrote:What does that have to do with me being VT?
This one I can't explain

I think I was just so fired up with catching him in the previous post that I somehow magically got the impression this was essentially saying "Maybe I'm a VT, I'm unclaimed, but what that does have to do with anything?"

False drill. False drill.
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:28 am

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In post 1687, Isis wrote:you stay so damn on brand Mena
Not really sure what this means but like I don’t think I’m being unreasonable given that you’ve been pushing a scum!us angle since the start of the game and since your original reasons were proven to be bad have just shifted your reasoning or completely failed to justify it

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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:19 am

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In post 1692, Shirou wrote:(SS also seems the kind of player to hate fakeclaims?)
Haha lol good joke sir.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:41 am

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In post 1683, Isis wrote:when I softtownread somebody who is claimed VT, I lulhammer them, then Datisi votes me and gets mad when I flip town
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:44 am

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s_s do you have feels on the fire bridge at this moment in time
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:53 am

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Hmm maybe slightly +scum, based off of Menalque's weird and unimpressive push on me?

But, I was scum the last few times I played with him, and it's common for people who recently played with scum-me to lock on to NAI things I did in both games and think they're scummy.

Him voting me after I snarked back at him was especially weird though.
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:02 am

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Somehow I feel like both wagons are town now, but I really got cold feet on implo, so UNVOTE: .

Isis townread got stronger, I don't remember her quite being able to fake the pride she has with her reads as scum.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:20 am

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the thing i got out of the last couple pages are that isis and shirou are probably town and nothing that was said tells me much of anything about s_s


may i offer as a third option

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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:22 am

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VOTE: aaron
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:25 am

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In post 293, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 211, Isis wrote:
In post 205, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 191, Infinity 324 wrote:the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there
@isis
if that post doesn't read towny to you I feel like you have a PT with some other players you could ask about it

it's very analytical
hmm i'm not sure if scum!isis posts this, but at the same time i don't like how this comes off tonally
In post 299, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 254, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 249, Infinity 324 wrote:She's implying that I'm scum if I don't find the post towny
Well...not by the way she worded it. If she said you are scum if you don't find that one implo post towny then she could have said it straight up but she chose to say that if you don't find implo's post towny then you have outside influence in some way. That's the question I'm trying to figure out here.
i think it's just a snarky way of saying that she thinks infinity is scum if he doesn't find that post from implo towny
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In post 277, Bridgeburners wrote:we've played several together, most recently the infamous SS3:Royalty in the mini queue

i think a majority of this pl would agree with me saying that that's literally my first post in nearly every game i play as both alignments. i'm just kinda baffled that she'd come to the conclusion that it's scummy
and like i said later on at the same time i'm not sure why scum!her makes that take because it's like a bizarre thing to set up an argument abt that i'm p sure she knows i'm going to object to but like my overall take is that it's scummy

pedit was it really only 3? ok i can cite probably dozens of games where i did it as town and ig you happened to be in the one where i didn't, does knowing that change anything?

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In post 411, Bridgeburners wrote:I mean I’m kind of fucking around but also dragging the day out is pointless

I think we should be aiming to get a claim out of someone within the next 3-4 days and to elim in the next 5-6

-QB
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In post 433, Bridgeburners wrote:fwiw i think ben is fairly townie

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In post 521, implosion wrote:Is Datisi like, a notably good scum player? Bc it seems like there's a decent amount of latent skepticism of him but I feel like he's been transparently town a couple times.
i think datisi is more than capable as scum but take that with a grain of salt because i think i've only played with scum!datisi once and that was in a newbie game back in like 2019
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:08 am

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Votecount 1.11

Something_Smart (5) - implosion, Datisi, Not_Mafia, Shirou, Bridgeburners
Implosion (4) - PenguinPower, seCret hYdra, Schiavetto, Isis
AaronFrost (2) - Petapan, Infinity 324
PenguinPower (1) - Something_Smart

Not voting (1) - AaronFrost

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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:42 am

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If you two keep on Aaron, there's not enough votes for any of SS / Implosion unless you compromise later.

Keep that in mind.
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:17 am

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can we just take a moment to talk about how the previous page is one person claiming s_s is confirmed town and another person responding by saying he's confirmed scum and just like. take a moment or a breather or something
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:21 am

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I'm fine with going for Aaron if it has the votes. Also petapan's 1712 is a very good post.

Unvote

VOTE: Aaron
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:25 am

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Shirou I liked the avatar with the cloudy breath it was cute
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:31 am

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In post 1719, Infinity 324 wrote:Shirou I liked the avatar with the cloudy breath it was cute
I'm testing them, I do find that one very cute as well, I may settle on it.
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:45 pm

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@Something_Smart why are you on penguin
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:47 pm

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In post 1712, petapan wrote:the thing i got out of the last couple pages are that isis and shirou are probably town and nothing that was said tells me much of anything about s_s


may i offer as a third option

VOTE: aaronfrost
In post 1713, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: aaron

good votes, prefer them vastly to the SS wagon
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:48 pm

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In post 1567, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1564, Shirou wrote:I'm interested in your reasons for the vote though.
PP has felt more useless than he usually does, to the point where I was pretty surprised to see that he had 144 posts.

Very roughly, my impression of his towngame is that he makes snarky comments that are sometimes productive or good points, and as scum he fades into the background more. He's been present, but not really doing much that feels like it will advance the game, aside from voting/campaigning for votes which is pretty easy for scum to do.
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:49 pm

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s_s is hard to read so I don’t know if he really believes that or not despite being wrong.
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