Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Dunnstral]

Yes exactly, why would Alisae have one even night role but no odd night anything? Sure it’s possible but in most games, you don’t have one without the other.

What? Why not?

Both the rolestopper and doctor are fairly useless roles to setup balance anyway considering the driver, dont think it would change much. If the driver dies they're activated sure but still dont see it affecting balance a ton

And where did I miss the unspoken "Even nights need an odd night counterpart" rule? I'd never abide by that while designing a setup

Okay fair enough but there usually is although I played a game on MU once where I was even night vig and no odd counterpart but there was in Cards of Destiny: Gamma, even night town bus driver with BEF, odd night town roleblocker or something? Can’t recall now. Do you remember? @Dunn

I don't know what MU game you are talking about (sounds like I wasn't in it)
Cards of destiny: Yes there was 'Neighbor Even night self redirector conditional hated/loved' and 'Mod poster/Modified-odd night hider'

Also the odd night bus driver as well

[Morning Tweet]

lol I just opened your message

@Starcrossed batshit bat around right off the bat batty tab cat rat eat

Oh okay. @Tweetie why target the same slot twice: Days 3 & 6?

Why not? Olaf wasn't bussed the first time I messaged him, may as well try again shall we?

There was no logic behind my last message, it was completely irrelevant as a drive last night would be completely useless with Kid dead

[Morning Tweet]

For the record id totally have bussed Sara, why wouldn't I have? I'm town for other reasons

Okay but hanging her out to dry isn’t even in the same ballpark as bussing. Bussing specifically refers to pushes or votes, not to hanging a buddy out to dry with your NA. And yes very obviously true.

Ah, that is fair, I did reveal the switch which was incriminating looking.

Although, same thing happened to Toog, it isn't totally damning. Anyway...

[Morning Tweet]

Okay fair enough but there usually is although I played a game on MU once where I was even night vig and no odd counterpart but there was in Cards of Destiny: Gamma, even night town bus driver with BEF, odd night town roleblocker or something? Can’t recall now. Do you remember? @Dunn

The only conclusion I draw from Kid and Dunn's claims is that the claims alone made Kid likely town, as Dunn corroborates them. Accidentally claiming symmetrically with another protect would be hard.

Dunn does not have that benefit because he claimed second. I wrote Dunn off this game because I believed him a while back when he mentioned how his role made him interpret War and Peace's gunsmith claim differently, or something like that. It was very towny sounding and gave credibility to the claim

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy I don't see how Tweetie can be scum if their role is messenger and the last scum is a bus driver

I know that, where are you getting I even think that? She’s super locktown.

I'm confused why you're spending so much time defending me because no one is pushing me

Because I misread Pyro’s post. Anyway, I think you, PB and Clidd are all spewed town by anti associatives, so it’s between Pyro and Dunn.

Ftr, I like Pyro pushing Dunn > Dunn pushing Clidd. I also trust Kanna’s trs > srs, considering she has been right on both Toog and KidAmn.

If Dunn is the last scum here, then this game is as scumsided af, let’s be super clear on that. This setup is the complete converse of Pooky vs. FL where the opposite was true, so winning this despite the setup totally favouring scum will indeed be sweet.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well you’re town for a gazillion other reasons but ALSO that. @Tweetie

[Nancy Drew 39]

Please, try and predict me.

Who was Morty and Rick bus driven with on N2? You can share that now?

Why would you expect me to be honest?

So you’re saying the bus driven target you switched with M & R would totally affect the game then? Gotcha.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes exactly, why would Alisae have one even night role but no odd night anything? Sure it’s possible but in most games, you don’t have one without the other.

What? Why not?

Both the rolestopper and doctor are fairly useless roles to setup balance anyway considering the driver, dont think it would change much. If the driver dies they're activated sure but still dont see it affecting balance a ton

And where did I miss the unspoken "Even nights need an odd night counterpart" rule? I'd never abide by that while designing a setup

Okay fair enough but there usually is although I played a game on MU once where I was even night vig and no odd counterpart but there was in Cards of Destiny: Gamma, even night town bus driver with BEF, odd night town roleblocker or something? Can’t recall now. Do you remember? @Dunn

I don't know what MU game you are talking about (sounds like I wasn't in it)
Cards of destiny: Yes there was 'Neighbor Even night self redirector conditional hated/loved' and 'Mod poster/Modified-odd night hider'

It was so long ago - before I had my first game on here, can’t even recall the name - but I was even night vig in an open setup and got miselimed D2 despite the one player hard trying to save me being the NK, go figure.

[Nancy Drew 39]

And I referenced that game because I don’t recall there being an odd night anything in that but honestly can’t remember.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes exactly, why would Alisae have one even night role but no odd night anything? Sure it’s possible but in most games, you don’t have one without the other.

What? Why not?

Both the rolestopper and doctor are fairly useless roles to setup balance anyway considering the driver, dont think it would change much. If the driver dies they're activated sure but still dont see it affecting balance a ton

And where did I miss the unspoken "Even nights need an odd night counterpart" rule? I'd never abide by that while designing a setup

Okay fair enough but there usually is although I played a game on MU once where I was even night vig and no odd counterpart but there was in Cards of Destiny: Gamma, even night town bus driver with BEF, odd night town roleblocker or something? Can’t recall now. Do you remember? @Dunn

I don't know what MU game you are talking about (sounds like I wasn't in it)
Cards of destiny: Yes there was 'Neighbor Even night self redirector conditional hated/loved' and 'Mod poster/Modified-odd night hider'

Also the odd night bus driver as well

I’m pretty sure Gamma was even night and BEF odd. I don’t recall any other bd than Gamma? But I think the rest is probably right.

[Titus]

Please, try and predict me.

Who was Morty and Rick bus driven with on N2? You can share that now?

Why would you expect me to be honest?

So you’re saying the bus driven target you switched with M & R would totally affect the game then? Gotcha.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Same reason I would not give reads and have blindly sheeped you.

[Nancy Drew 39]

The thing is why no bus drive last night?

We killed kidamn so there was no reason to bus drive

Sorry, I was referring to N5.

How do you know that there was no bus drive N5?

@Dunn

[Nancy Drew 39]

MT I kinda wanna celebrate I think this is the first time we've been town together lmao

Oh wait I mean I'll save it for the mason pt

-S

Lmfaoooo

[Nancy Drew 39]

Jesus... I'm not reading 25 pages that came in less than 18 hours. Someone catch me up to speed.

We're masons with Pyro, Fey, and Noraaing Tweet

-S

Hmm . . . this could be anti associative for Pyro.

[Nancy Drew 39]

So... pretty much just a metric shit-ton of noise today?

vote marcistar or clidd to help solve and for #wagons

-S

[Nancy Drew 39]

If Gamma is scum there's the risk he's a scum doctor, he is a poor GS choice. Vanilla cop on Olaf is basically fine even though I very slightly disagree with it but not so much that we need to argue about it.

GS on Akarin is very strong. If not Akarin, god, we could do Olaf

, but then we'd do vanilla cop on one of mastina/Akarin. That feels worse to me but it's workable.

Hmmm . . . I think I’m leaning to limming Dunn. Why would Krazy want Olaf

gun checked

role copped?

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: dunnstral

VOTE: dunnstral

Explain

Finally

Riiiiight - because you’ve never played with me before.

@dunn

I'm actual masons with nora, sam, pooky, auro, pooky, akarin, clidd, and dunn and figurative masons with all these people except 1

Gamma Emerald
SaraharaS
Fey
ItalianoVD
Toogeloo
Battle Mage
Pyro
Charlie and Snoopy (Marcistar + Shadowslug)
Saudade

Ironically my figurative masons are probably more town than my literal masons

Also even though we're a mason there might be one specific investigative role that could get a quasi guilty on us like a miller but not miller

-Sherlock Holmes

Dunn don't push the mason theater too hard or titus might think we're not actually masons

-S

This series of posts are super weird. Within minutes Krazy votes the slot he’s tr? Why?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think Pink Ball is being very reasonable about how he is handling you. Nancy

. Relax. And Focus.

Focus.

If you really want Starcrossed vanilla cop checked over mastina, I'd be welcome to hear why, otherwise I think mastina is the better vanilla cop check based on the information that town will need to be able to discuss on day 2 to solve effectively.

Translation: I’m totally pocketing the ever loving fuck out of PB.

[Nancy Drew 39]

vanilla cop will still be important since the vanilla cop claims result before the rest of massclaim

Flip clidd

italiano on fey, gunsmith Akarin, rolestop {pool of S&W and Sarah},

replacement vanilla cops Olaf

Lock?

Okay, Pyro/Olaf has to be town from this, since last scum is bus driver.

[Nancy Drew 39]

vanilla cop will still be important since the vanilla cop claims result before the rest of massclaim

Flip clidd

italiano on fey, gunsmith Akarin, rolestop {pool of S&W and Sarah},

replacement vanilla cops Olaf

Lock?

Okay, Pyro/Olaf has to be town from this, since last scum is bus driver.

Okay, I think Pyro is lockclear from this.

[Dunnstral]

The thing is why no bus drive last night?

We killed kidamn so there was no reason to bus drive

Sorry, I was referring to N5.

How do you know that there was no bus drive N5?

@Dunn

Didn't realize this was addressed to me, I was talking about night 6

vanilla cop will still be important since the vanilla cop claims result before the rest of massclaim

Flip clidd

italiano on fey, gunsmith Akarin, rolestop {pool of S&W and Sarah},

replacement vanilla cops Olaf

Lock?

Okay, Pyro/Olaf has to be town from this, since last scum is bus driver.

Okay, I think Pyro is lockclear from this.

Not if the bus driver can self target. Was the bus driver accounted for that night?

[Nancy Drew 39]

So you’re suggesting that Pyro/Olaf bus drove themselves with Morty and Rick? Considering that Krazy also wanted the actual kill target vanilla copped, why even bother? Who was even pushing Olaf at that time?

If my theory’s correct, it was actually S & W who were switched with Morty and Rick but since I did indeed have a one shot strongwilled disloyal vigshot, it didn’t save them.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Sorry @Dunn, I think it’s you.

I think Tweetie, PB and Pyro are all mech clear and that PB and Clidd are also clear because of anti associatives. Who knew that Krazy would be the scum who sang the loudest? I knew they were hard controlling the game and had to find out asap, which team they were playing for.

[Nancy Drew 39]

So you’re suggesting that Pyro/Olaf bus drove themselves with Morty and Rick? Considering that Krazy also wanted the actual kill target vanilla copped, why even bother? Who was even pushing Olaf at that time?

If my theory’s correct, it was actually S & W who were switched with Morty and Rick but since I did indeed have a one shot strongwilled disloyal vigshot, it didn’t save them.

Sarah was extremely unlikely to have been bus driven with M & R since I was hard tr her att but Krazy kept hardpushing for that rolestop, so that’s why S & W make the most sense as the switch.

And why does the only night you’re leashed to a target, they don’t die but Fey does? If my S & W bus drive theory is correct, then it makes sense. With 2 masons, 6 vts are plausible but not 7 obviously. Like if I’m wrong we can always revisit but the obviously only difference will be Tweetie 100% dies tonight, regardless whether we leash you onto her or not. So let’s say we no elim either D7 or 8, then what? PB dies N8? Then we have a you/Pyro/Clidd F3?

[Nancy Drew 39]

The thing is why no bus drive last night?

We killed kidamn so there was no reason to bus drive

So if KidAmn had lived, they would have probably been leashed to Starcrossed and died anyway. Ngl, #6867 sounds like a bit of a TMI. Why? Because you’re making it crystal clear that Starcrossed would 100% been bus driven had we not limmed him. Scum wanted Clidd limmed D6 - which is also probably why Fey died > Starcrossed but then when Starcrossed dies anyway tonight, then we’d lim KidAmn tonight. Tweetie dies, leaving a you/Pyro/PB F3 and hope PB can be persuaded on Pyro. We don’t have the luxury of a no elim attp either because scum just NKs PB and win.

Scum needed Fey dead to faux guilty Clidd and then have Kid fail once again in protecting the town they were leashed to because Kid flip proves bus drive actually happen on his watch. So what that tells me, is that now that Kid can’t be framed, bus driver is essentially useless. Either way, we’re in a considerably weaker spot with Clidd death. It makes sense why Titus was so upset with that post now: not because Pyro’s scum but because Kanna confitowned Clidd. Scum desperately need Clidd to be the elim today and Kanna fucked that up.

Sarah wanted Clidd to be elimed in his place, then after Sarah’s elimed, Fey - who just happened to be hardpushing Clidd dies and now, who is your #1 target to elim today? Clidd.