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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:44 am

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In post 857, Sha 77 wrote:Back later, I'm liking Ali so far for that Cakez outrage. Andres still feels off and I raised my eyebrows a few times when he was talking about the leaders and what he thinks they'd do as scum (like if they'd include their partners or not), it felt like he was forcing himself to over analyse it? At the same time, I'm a little worried that Andres just has an unnatural sounding tone that I tend to scumread, but I don't like his reasoning either, so I think I'm not dumb probably.

Pooky and Flea are still pretty nullish so far

@Flea: Why'd you heal me yesterday and did I scumreading you influence your read on me at all?
Because I know you're good at this and I wasn't getting scumvibes from you. If you were townreading me then I would've been concerned.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:03 am

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In post 871, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 870, SirCakez wrote:I'm already voting this I thought
The vote that’s getting counted is you excluding Sha from their choices. If I’m not mistaken.
Oh I thought I could vote for both
In post 880, tris wrote:
In post 878, Andresvmb wrote:@tris what do you want to do?
still catching up!!! but where im at my instinct is to exclude pooky
elaborate?
Pooky's lack of recent effort does have me a little eeked. He had stepped up more by this point in Warehouse.
In post 900, Sha 77 wrote:Okay okay, I'll finish catching up in approximately 12 hours and try and come up with some sort of solve

Cakez voting to heal everyone but me in that 6 is hilarious, I haven't seen his reasoning for it yet, but:

If I'm scum, Cakez, won't I be more incentived to include my partner in my picks?
Not necessarily?

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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:41 am

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In post 893, Sha 77 wrote:I'm not compeletely convinced, Infinity, I thought I made that clear when I said I don't see him as scum as clearly as I did overnight, and how I may just be scumreading his unnatural tone. I see more people are calling him town based on recent stuff but I still find him scummy as of page 27

Are you saying I'm scum fake pushing him? Can you point out what parts of my push gives you that impression?
Could you address this as well?
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:52 am

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Okay, Andres, do you mind dropping me a link to your 2 most recent scumgames? I just want to see if aggressiveness and frustration is alignment-indicative for you
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:00 am

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In post 860, Isis wrote:
(2)Image {Ydrasse, tris, Infinity 324, PookyTheMagicalBear, Andresvmb} (1) - Infinity 324
Image {Ydrasse, tris, Alisae, Infinity 324, PookyTheMagicalBear} (2) - Flea the Magician, Andresvmb
Image {tris, Infinity 324, Alisae, Flea the Magician, SirCakez} (1) - SirCakez
Image {Sha 77, tris, Alisae, Infinity 324, SirCakez} (1) - Ydrasse

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Modnote: You may not put one vote on each option like in the undertale series, voting for an attacker team overwrites your vote for a healer team and vice versa
Am I lost, I can't find where Cakez voted to HEAL this team at all... did it happen in the scum PT
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:07 am

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In post 625, SirCakez wrote:HURT: Andres
HEAL: Sha

I think I'll start here
These are the only HEALS/HURTS I can find from him today

And then his response to me and unvote suggests he did choose that team and it's not a mod error... I'm so confused
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:09 am

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Yeah I voted to leave you out because I thought you were pretty scummy yesterday this isn't news
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:10 am

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In post 557, Isis wrote:If you want to build an Attacker team for Isis, use "hurt" "/hurt" tags, and type in the name of the player you want to exclude from the volleyball team.
If you want to build a Healer team for Isis, use "heal" "/heal" tags, and type in the name of the player you want to exclude from the volleyball team.
This exactly corresponds to a team, because there are six of each type and you can only take 5.
Ah okay, this makes so much more sense

I thought you had to heal all 5 players wou wanted on the team
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:25 am

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In post 734, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm if hectic is scum I think he's scum with someone in ydrasse's group (pooky or ali?) and is pushing andres to make sure his buddy gets in
I want you to elaborate on these worlds of yours, Infinity

Does it look like Pooky is my partner who really needs go be included or lose in Ydrasse's group? Is he efforting or trying to make himself look town? Because it doesn't look like it to me

For Alisae - I think most are including eir in their groups so why would I need to randomly push Andres when e's not in danger of being left out anyway?
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:38 am

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Pooky and Flea are both saying they'd be efforting more as scum, but they usually do more as town too. Odds are one of them is scum and they both haven't just happened to have a rare lurk game as town

And then 1 in Andres/Infinity/Alisae

Leaning 1 in Andres/Infinity and 1 in Pooky/Flea

tris and Ydrasse are town

Oh, I completely forgot Cakez exists

Whatever, I've put in too much thought into this game for one sitting. I'll check back in once queries have been answered
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:42 am

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One last thing:
In post 775, Flea The Magician wrote:From what I can tell, both teams are going in, we just need to eliminate one person from each team and looking at Isis last vote, I think it's a group agreement that happens? I have no clue, honestly.
Townslip??@,#*'o

What gave you the impression both groups went in, Flea? We only get to pick one
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:56 am

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HEAL: Infinity
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:05 am

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Alisae may not be the most likely choice to be left out, but there's still a nonzero chance right? Seems like pushing andres would still be a good play to be safe

I could see pooky doing a weird WIFOM play where they try to get townreads for not efforting. Actually you would make the most sense as pooky's partner since you're at least doing something to help get pooky in the team.

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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:28 am

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Misread it seems, still trying to work out the mechanic here.

so building a heal team, which is our team, means we yeet one of our team to go through...

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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:00 am

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why Flea?
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:40 am

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Assuming this puts our team through, you're my weakest read overall. Was you or Alisae.
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:17 am

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ig I need to post now for things to move forward.
Sorry, I was distracted by other things (anime + league) the past few days
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:18 am

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In post 897, tris wrote:alisae, i dont understand why you flip flopped on andres. could you explain your process on that?
The game is hard I have no idea whats going on at the moment. Thats why I'm like this.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:25 am

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In post 916, Sha 77 wrote:
In post 756, Alisae wrote:fwiw, I do think going the Ydra group is 100% better but not for the reasons that you guys think.
I actually think that is the group that contains the 2 scum and I don't think its andres.

I think if we wanted to try to find scum we go for the Ydra group but if we want to gamble on trying to win the game, we go for the sha group.

If any group fails, we need to kill the group leader to understand why the group fail. Was it because the group was picked by scum or it was picked by town and they misread someone? From there it becomes significantly easier to hunt.
I think the Ydra group always fails. I'm way too paranoid of pooky and something feels off about Ydra.
I think its possible that I could just be misreading Flea
What on earth is this post

Why do you ever "try to find scum" rather than just go for the win with 5 town?

If you go for the win:
-You either just win, or find scum in the group of 5

If you try and find scum:
-You find scum in the group of 5

??? Elaborate please, Ali
These are my thought processes. I don't normally post these in thread but I needed to write my thoughts out as they came to me and post them.
We would have to try to find scum in a situation where we can't decide on the best person to exclude and we have to compromise. This route basically says "We can't decide on a person to exclude, lets try to get as much information as possible." This route basically also entails killing the leader of the group if it fails because it helps to determine how bad the group is. If its scum, its likely to have more scum in the group. Technically its wine but given this very eventful dayphase so far it should be sortable w/ more information.
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:30 am

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My heart tells me that Infinity is the real scum here.
Not sure my brain is there yet.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:30 am

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HEAL: Infinity
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:33 am

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o wait
infinity flea is possible
infinity pooky is also possible

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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:34 am

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ah
its infinity flea
ya i like this
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:34 am

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andres is good
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:39 am

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I s2g if I'm getting pocketed by the "Pooky does nothing pocketing special" aaaaaaaah this seems like a hard 50-50 but I fell like in reality it just leans more flea than Pooky.
I think my brain can accept this as the most likely pairing right now.
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