Dogs Vs. Cats Mafia | Endgame

[Farkran]

I'm halfway through the game

Undecieded on Kazyanheart

Decidedly town on Dweeheart

Also decidedly town on Farheart

Wait who's farheart if i am farkheart?

[Farkran]

By the way my current opinion is that the kazyan wagon is scumdriven, i cannot believe for a second that he is being scumread for trying to organize the thread

Out of all the possible reasons to vote anyone, choosing to vote for busywork is terrible, and the wagon growing so high is opportunistic at best

Can we have a vc?

[Anya]

VC

(12) Farkran - pookythemagicalbear, raya36, Nero Cain, Dwlee99, Beeboy, Kazyan, Save the Dragons, Murdercat, Flea the magician, Andante, sircakez

(5) Kayzan - sircakez, kdowns, shiro, NorwegianboyEE, flow trap

(1) Andante - Farkran

(8) Not Voting - anya, Brave Heart Lion, Chara, Ivyeo, unwnd, xofelf, toadette, firebringer




any last words before i hammer?

[Ivyeo]

Wait what happened while *I* Was gone??

[Anya]

farkran revealed his true colours and started thrashing around like a fish

[Anya]

whatever looks like he's dodging now

VOTE: farkran

sorry if wrong

[Farkran]

Im ded sry scumteam will do better next time

No seriously though, there is scum on kazyan.

[flow trap]

could also just lynch flow trap so we don't have to read through 15576585667575 one-sentence replies

Said the person in a one-sentence reply

[flow trap]

VOTE: Pooky

Pls give a real opinion about the gamestate

My favourite number is not the number of mafia in this game

Wow same

Why? Toadette might as well be my only townread as of now

I don't like not voting so I hopped on a random wagon of 1

It was fully random?

Can't say for sure

[flow trap]

Spoiler: Kdowns' post

I don't want to play hero or seem like I need to defend people but Andante being called scum is baffling. I think people are really annoyed about her spam and think maybe she just has nothing to say, yet I see a lot of method into it. You could even compare and contrast this thought as to why I didn't like Kaz. Andante sees something she doesn't like and much like a dog starts barking at trouble. Kaz however sits back and uses opposable thumbs to make Pro/Anti lists that generate no purpose beyond discussing a potential what-if topic. What if scum are anti-posters? What if town are pro-posters? Who knows. Even he himself initially said 'will this help anyone? probably not'

Humans are the enemy

I think it's just with Kaz it seems like it's initiating conversations on people other than himself? I just haven't like the feel of the buddy buddy that's been going on.

I don't want to play hero or seem like I need to defend people but Andante being called scum is baffling. I think people are really annoyed about her spam and think maybe she just has nothing to say, yet I see a lot of method into it. You could even compare and contrast this thought as to why I didn't like Kaz. Andante sees something she doesn't like and much like a dog starts barking at trouble. Kaz however sits back and uses opposable thumbs to make Pro/Anti lists that generate no purpose beyond discussing a potential what-if topic. What if scum are anti-posters? What if town are pro-posters? Who knows. Even he himself initially said 'will this help anyone? probably not'

Humans are the enemy

this is a very towny post

Indifferent, but I can see why you think it's towny just because it's labeling you town.

How did you reach that conclusion?

To which part? Me being indifferent or me saying that Anda thinks it's towny because it's labeling him town?


On a different note. Does no one know how to use the Multi Quote button because sheeeeessssshhhhh

The latter

[flow trap]

I haven't read a single post from Flow Trap and will continue to not do so. His spam is the selfish type of fun where he doesn't even bother to pretend to be an animal. Dislike

Everytime I have lost as town, someone ignored me

Shiro might actually be scum

But shiro is town.

I believe it

[Raya36]

you guys know what would be funny? If andante is scum and was afraid of going down today so they voted their buddy (kdowns) I think unwnds jazz about andate being a gut player and not having to explain her reads/views is hot garbage.

I vote on gut but I can tell you what made me feel that way, why is she incapable of that?

I checked some of her old games and that was the conclusion I came from it. Could I be wrong? Possibly, but I'm not seeing the arguments made for why she's scum. She posts a lot and doesn't explain herself. Okay?

I agree. Not saying Andante can't be scum but so far any cases I have seen only point out NAI stuff for her.

Toadheart also feels like scum

Once again, gonna ask why because I townread toadette

[flow trap]

Are you normally this challenging about people SRing your TRs Raya?

[Nero Cain]

Kazyan's xofelf vote in 355 feels very go with the flow. The reasoning seems very weak.

I understand the reason for his list in 526 and he's sorta just calling one of himself, beeboy or cakez scum.

I however do not understand the point of the list in 587, I stand by my belief that it is IIOA. Information instead of analysis.


he's not very towny.

[Nero Cain]

But I'm caught up now and Cakez pointing out the game is bastard which I vaguely remember being a true point from signups has sapped my wim down a bit so I'm out of shrooms for now

I don't find toadette that scummy but this had me a lil' worried that it might just be scum that's getting in an early excuse to coast. its w8 and see.

[MURDERCAT]

Hi, I'm here and reading

[Dwlee99]

Anya, that would have been more believable with beeboy still on no vote.

By the way my current opinion is that the kazyan wagon is scumdriven, i cannot believe for a second that he is being scumread for trying to organize the thread

Out of all the possible reasons to vote anyone, choosing to vote for busywork is terrible, and the wagon growing so high is opportunistic at best

Can we have a vc?

I think Kazyan's vote right now is on SirCakez. Bad vote imo. I also hated their sheep of Andante to vote kmdown earlier. Granted, I'm not on the wagon, but the wagon seemed to grow naturally in a response to people catching up with the thread voting for him. Unless you're suggesting Raya is forming a counterwagon to save Andante?

[Nero Cain]

hello murder gato

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler: Unofficial VoteCount

Andante [6] Nero Cain, norwegianboyEE, dwlee99, save the dragons, sircakez, farkran
Kazyan [2] raya36, brave heart lion
xofelf [2] MURDERCAT, toadette
toadette [1] flea
Farkran [2] chara, anya
Beeboy [2] pooky, unwnd
sircakez [1] kazyan
kdowns [1] Andante
anya [1] firebringer
NorwegianBoyEE [2] flow trap, shiro

Not Voting [4]
Beeboy, kdowns, xofelf, ivyeo

If Anya's switch to Farkran was intended as anything more than a possible reaction test, I'm confused by it. Andante is still parked on kdowns and I don't believe we have received decent reasons. I would like to see the four non-voters do something with their vote so I can at least know what they're thinking. I don't like kazyan or flea's votes cause I townread those people although I can't remember when the flea vote was placed. I want firebringer to catch-up and update his vote cause I think that one was placed during the animal noise phase of the game. I also do not like the NorwegianBoyEE votes and that Shiro caught up and decided to vote with flow trap there is weird. I don't think Shiro gave reads on Andante / Kazyan / Xof and I'd like their thoughts.

[Farkran]

Anya, that would have been more believable with beeboy still on no vote.

By the way my current opinion is that the kazyan wagon is scumdriven, i cannot believe for a second that he is being scumread for trying to organize the thread

Out of all the possible reasons to vote anyone, choosing to vote for busywork is terrible, and the wagon growing so high is opportunistic at best

Can we have a vc?

I think Kazyan's vote right now is on SirCakez. Bad vote imo. I also hated their sheep of Andante to vote kmdown earlier. Granted, I'm not on the wagon, but the wagon seemed to grow naturally in a response to people catching up with the thread voting for him. Unless you're suggesting Raya is forming a counterwagon to save Andante?

Not necessarily raya. Raya's recent posts weren't bad. But the wagon grew beyond plausibility - i lost track of how many people are there but i think it's about 5-6 now.

I do agree that the vote on sircakez is bad, but is it bad in a scummy way? I don't think so. Kmdown i need to read better.

[SirCakez]

only five pages overnight bless!

[Farkran]

@dwlee are there really only 2 votes on kaz? I'm fairly sure i saw several people voting there. Did they all switch later?

[Dwlee99]

I read between the last vote count and now and updated it on my phone so if there are mistakes I wouldn't be

too

surprised, but I think it is right. The only vote off of Kaz was Anya to you.

[Kazyan]

Alright, I'm here again and I probably have an hour or two before work needs me. Does anyone have direct questions?

By the way my current opinion is that the kazyan wagon is scumdriven, i cannot believe for a second that he is being scumread for trying to organize the thread

Out of all the possible reasons to vote anyone, choosing to vote for busywork is terrible, and the wagon growing so high is opportunistic at best

Can we have a vc?

My hot take is that scum were in the half-dozen pre-wagon people throwing shade at me over and over, and when that didn't work, someone finally voted for me.

[Nero Cain]

She posts a lot and doesn't explain herself. Okay?

Explaining yourself and trying to get town to achieve its goals is just pro-town play. ofc this feeds into your "Nero sees the game a certain way and those that don't conform he thinks are bad actors." And sure. Her calling kdowns scum but not really explaining why or trying to convince people she's right just looks bad to me. I think her xofelf reasoning is poor and possibly made up. And her not reacting to the mini-case I put on her seems bad as well and when I asked why she didn't respond to it she didn't respond.

Now I have come to realize that people like "fun". shit/fluff posting and being social although the fun for me is actually just playing the game, I may even be somewhat of a hypocrite b/c I do make jokes and troll posts every once in a while but I'm not excessive with it.

I'm just old and grumpy so I'm prone to scumread ISO's that are mostly fluff posting b/c I don't think its benefits the town as much and is helpful for the scum team.

I think the way the game is played today is that it's mostly suicide to defend your buddies though it prob does happen. I mean sure if Dante flips scum it could just mean you are uninformed town but it's not

impossible

that you'd defend her either, especially if she has a good role. I feel like your "beware of the bussers!" is kinda muddying the waters a bit. Also if this is indeed MB you could be scum that's defending scum from the other team.

If Andante is scum she's doing her role properly as a distraction

I agree that she's a distraction from hunting other scum and its a decent reason to eliminate her.