You can always punt the decision to me I don't care, I'll vote for Briar no problem.In post 1397, Infinity 324 wrote:I feel like an idiot for doing this if you're scum because now you have a chance of winning when you didn't before, but sighIn post 1386, Anastasia wrote:Sure infinity I'll let you vote just for the sake of completeness.In post 1385, Infinity 324 wrote:I think you at least owe me the ability to vote first.
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One of my greatest motivations in life is to prove people wrong so I will do what I have toIn post 1399, Anastasia wrote:there's this thing about motivation.
You see if we are decided on unwnd as the flip for the wall - he will die 100% of the time first.
However this is where the divergence happens:
Unwnd must make a "solve" for the gate before he dies.
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For Town!Unwnd, he knows that he will flip town, and the solve for the gate will be the one that either wins or loses the game for the town. So he will feel the weight of the responsibility to come up with the correct answer and he will pour his soul and effort into it, to come up with a solution that he is certain is correct or at least as close to it as possible.
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For Scum!Unwnd, he knows he will flip scum, the Keep will resolve townside and the game is effectively over, it does not matter what solve he creates. He has no need or motivation to fool anyone.
Can Scum!Unwnd muster the same effort and determination in Scenario (B) as he would in Scenario (A)? When all his effort and thought would ultimately be fruitless and pointless?
This is something very hard to fake. To pour yourself into something that is completely futile and pointless for you to do.Stop-
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I'd like to hear both of your thoughts now that I'm demonstrating I have at least a little bit of WIM.In post 1147, Briar wrote:
Stop stealing my thoughts, thief.In post 1136, Anastasia wrote:Infinity does seem kind of burned out tho
I think she gets sent to the keep regardless of her partner?
I think it makes sense, send people with more WIM to other places to fight.
I'm at scum!s_s now I think, fwiw-
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Hmm, so do you think luke is scum here? This description seems to line up with dunn being town hereIn post 1169, unwnd wrote:
I find when Dunn is town the ends justify the means. When he's scum, he spends a lot of time in this mode of fake thinking. There's a more general vagueness and I feel like he's less battered because he doesn't want to risk the attention. This plays in part of him idling at times. Dunn isn't a hyperposter and keeps to himself, and I don't think he's the scum to make big moves. He waits for people to make mistakes and then capitalizes on them.In post 1167, Something_Smart wrote:So your post about the bravado was a reaction test? What reactions were you expecting as scum vs town?
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I think you know me well enough to know I'd never do this <3In post 1400, Anastasia wrote:
You can always punt the decision to me I don't care, I'll vote for Briar no problem.In post 1397, Infinity 324 wrote:
I feel like an idiot for doing this if you're scum because now you have a chance of winning when you didn't before, but sighIn post 1386, Anastasia wrote:
Sure infinity I'll let you vote just for the sake of completeness.In post 1385, Infinity 324 wrote:I think you at least owe me the ability to vote first.-
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That was one of my guesses!! (did not know which of you/ana might be ydrasse)In post 1362, Briar wrote:In the interests of not having half this table informed tiptoeing around my identity/meta when I’m not actively hiding it: I’m Ydrasse.
But I read through Divide and Conquer during Day 1 of this game because I am in round 2 of that set up.-
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I think that this should be up to absinthe. Like once she is ready to move on to her own minigame, we can.In post 1388, Briar wrote:Speaking of votes: when is the best time for us to flip? Assuming Keep first is still the preferred move — the other groups will be harder to resolve but I don’t know when it’s best to give up our presence vs. confirmed flips.-
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Then why did you go through all the effort of making up your theory?
When scum is guiltied town doesn't need to think of "hmm what could the scum being doing here?" You just ignore their posts because they're all WIFOM.
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because your effort implies something about the rest of the game state?In post 1412, Infinity 324 wrote:Then why did you go through all the effort of making up your theory?
When scum is guiltied town doesn't need to think of "hmm what could the scum being doing here?" You just ignore their posts because they're all WIFOM.
You taking effort to justify why I'm scum means you know in your heart I'm town.
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I mean I've played plenty of positions sitting in the seat you are now where I'm being held to some absurd standard because my opponents happen to be able to clear themselves off things that shouldn't exist so I feel a great deal of sympathy for you.[/quoteIn post 1327, Anastasia wrote:In post 1324, unwnd wrote:See now you're just trying to win my heart, saying that in my time of need
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Only if you have the foresight to know what I would think of your move.In post 1414, Infinity 324 wrote:But why isn't it just WIFOM?-
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see this is wifom where you try to say someone who we think is town, is town.In post 1416, Infinity 324 wrote:I feel like scum!dunn would try to find a way to get more influence about the game rather than talking about theories everyone disagrees with. If he's scum here, he played pretty inflexibly and he's better than that.-
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I was right!In post 1362, Briar wrote:In the interests of not having half this table informed tiptoeing around my identity/meta when I’m not actively hiding it: I’m Ydrasse.-
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Interesting theory. Here's mine.In post 1372, Anastasia wrote:You can tell me if I'm right about this guess in the postgame.
Spoiler: Why Infinity Came Back
Spoiler: Why Infinity Came BackIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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I want your and anastasia's thoughts about the Gate (catboi vs S_S as town) for my own sake, and of course ALL the thoughts about the Wall in case I screw up the Gate.In post 1388, Briar wrote:Speaking of votes: when is the best time for us to flip? Assuming Keep first is still the preferred move — the other groups will be harder to resolve but I don’t know when it’s best to give up our presence vs. confirmed flips.
I have more of a handle on S_S's towngame. I played twice(?) with catboi in 2013-2014. I haven't gone back to look at those games, but iirc in one he was town and in the other he was scum (and ironically I replaced into an IC slot). I feel like meta that stale is probably not all that useful. I've spectated a couple games that town-catboi played and I feel like there's a lot of alignment ambiguity in his town game.-
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Gate last still feels like common sense to me. If we win the Gate, we likely win the game, and I have very little faith in us winning Wall.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Hm, it's actually to my advantage to guess it, isn't it.
Is it the way I've been talking about mechanics?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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