Open 819 | The Mindmeld Theory | Postgame

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

This game is going to have a stupid team like Skitter/Pooky

that would be fun

Only for you two and it would break my heart.

[skitter30]

I mean do u think i ought to be townreading u?
Otherwise not sure why u think i should know better

@dats

? i was playing a game

skitter should know better because... she's skitter? and has played with me enough and the reasons why she calls me scum are making me hmm

like i don't necessarily think you should be townreading me here (i'm always obvtown to myself so cannot give an accurate assessment there) but i don't think you should have a scumread on me for what you have and i'm trying to parse if it makes enough sense for town!you to have it and i feel like my opinion about it changes every time i look at this game

why are you turning the question into "should i be townreading you?"

i questioned if you thought i should be townreading you before you said (agreed!) you weren't being townie

so i'm sort of baffled how you're using the fact that you agreed you aren't objectively being townie as a reason my question doesn't make sense since it happened after

[skitter30]

...you have a point, I didn't really want to read 17 pages worth of it, but it is useful for sorting you two.

How is it not helping you read him better if you're erring towards an alignment-read on him?

no i mean more that this whole back-and-forth is makign me more suspicious of him and i'm not sure how much of it is because i'm tunneled/annoyed

like i feel like he's deliberately misunderstanding me but it's possibl ei'm tunneled which is why i think that
but this argument isn't going to help me break out of being tunneled
which is why on my end i don't think this is helpful

[skitter30]

like if anything i'm p sure that continuing this argument i'm going to get more and more and more suspicious of dats
if i'm wrongly reading him as scum this argument is not going to help me read him correctly

so i want to end it and move on because otherwise i'm just going to get stuck here

[Datisi]

"not being townie" =/= "being scummy"
"not being townie" =/= "unable to find scumreads on me suspicious"

to me, your 397 seemed to imply at least one of the above, if not both

at this point i'm genuinely questioning my own english reading comprehension
i will try again at a time that is not 3am (and i told myself i was gonna go to bed earlier today, good one)

pedit: likewise

[skitter30]

ok so let's just agree that we have a massive amt of miscommunication happening here at best and move on
and i will try to reassess if this is the only reason i find you scummy and/or if other things are prompting it

[Umlaut]

Perhaps some of that is that, it feels opportunistic to back down from the "argument" here that they're having (from Skitter's side) when there is a bit of questioning on her now. I think in an ideal world though I should play safe and say we don't let either of Skitter/Datisi pair because it feels like the sort of fight where it's T/S but I'm not sure enough on my townread to go "yes pair please."

This is the thing I was "hmm"-ing about, 405 felt like a situation where the town reaction if you think you're getting shitpushed by your scumread would be to push back even harder but there and in the followup posts Skitter is instead taking a much more "let's agree to disagree and move on" tack?

Not that I think it would be good for the game to go into a post war between Skitter and Datisi but I don't expect town!her to be so actively trying to drop the subject in this situation.

[skitter30]

i care more abt not clogging up the thread than having a semantics-based argument that i'm p sure won't help either of us actually read the other

[Something_Smart]

man i kinda want ss/ums to flip now just to see if SS is red now haha

Yeah I figured that was where Datisi's post was going.

I think I probably will accept Umlaut, especially since I have a longish V/LA coming up and I don't want to hold up the game.

[T3]

I'm not sure what I can do. I'm not opposed to ss accepting. Datisi is kind-of-lean town as in I probably wouldn't trust but if others have a good read on him then go for it.

[Umlaut]

I wouldn't be too opposed to S_S accepting but given that he's generally seen as town I wonder if it's not better to keep his voice around.

[skitter30]

Ig i sort of think we want to remove people we think are Not Scum and ss is probablu our best bet

[PenguinPower]

I wouldn't be too opposed to S_S accepting but given that he's generally seen as town I wonder if it's not better to keep his voice around.

We have to get to parity with scum and there are deadlines?

[PenguinPower]

I'm not sure what I can do. I'm not opposed to ss accepting. Datisi is kind-of-lean town as in I probably wouldn't trust but if others have a good read on him then go for it.

[PenguinPower]

man i kinda want ss/ums to flip now just to see if SS is red now haha

Yeah I figured that was where Datisi's post was going.

I think I probably will accept Umlaut, especially since I have a longish V/LA coming up and I don't want to hold up the game.

Eh - that’s cool. I don’t really have an opinion.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This game is going to have a stupid team like Skitter/Pooky

that would be fun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Only for you two and it would break my heart.

she's being sarcastic

every time i've rolled scum with her we've lost in epic fashion haha

also I'm your mason buddy you can't doubt me

[PenguinPower]

Oi - see my mena/skitteR scum comments in other games. It’s a ritual I need to perform.

[skitter30]

Only for you two and it would break my heart.

she's being sarcastic

every time i've rolled scum with her we've lost in epic fashion haha

also I'm your mason buddy you can't doubt me

I mean it was still fun!

[Almost50]

a50, why do you townread vulture so hard?

Because I do.

[Almost50]

I signed up because the setup sounded interesting but now I have no idea what I'm actually supposed to be doing if I can't try and form wagons

Just tell me your top 2 TRs and collect your free skittles

[Almost50]

Why does this clear S_S if T3's trust didn't? It's not as if he can just flash-trust me without raising questions about why he didn't do the same to T3.

If he did you'd both have been out of the game already. Does it matter if he is seen as scummy AFTER he has been flipped??

[Almost50]

If ss is scum with town-t3 he takes the trust, no reason not to
If he's scum with t3 he cant, so there was a lingering question of if ss/t3 was possible

But in that universe he would take thr trust with you

But he didnt

So that effectively means he's either scum with both of u (impossible), scum who isnt taking the trust (and thus damaging his own wincon), or just town

Umlaut is correct though. If it's SS/T3 then T3 is never leaving.

(How I LOVE to just oppose everyone else, even if it makes me contradict myself)

[Almost50]

I also live how nobody responded to my request except skitter <3

Ich acknowledged it, but didn't give their 2 Trs and everyone else pretended I didn't exist in the game