Micro 1023 - The Coalition: TBotITGBSMoD [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.04

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-08-13 20:45:00).

coalition

Iverson [5]:

Iverson, Black Ranger, Uncle Shelby, GuiltyLion, The Cheek of Gamma
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The Coalition [5]:

implosion, The Coalition, Vulture, The Cheek of Gamma, Iverson
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GuiltyLion [5]:

GuiltyLion, Vulture, Iverson, The Cheek of Gamma, implosion
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Uncle Shelby [4]:

Iverson, Black Ranger, Uncle Shelby, GuiltyLion
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implosion [0]:

Black Ranger [0]:

Vulture [0]:

Art [0]:

The Cheek of Gamma [0]:

yeet

The Coalition [2]:

GuiltyLion, The Cheek of Gamma

implosion [1]:

Iverson

Vulture [1]:

Uncle Shelby

not voting [5]:

The Coalition, implosion, Black Ranger, Vulture, Art

mod notes

~ Art has (expired on 2021-07-30 18:00:00) to confirm their role pm before i start looking for a replacement
~ my vote counter does not work for heal votes, which means i'm counting everything by hand. please yell at me if i miss any votes.

flavour

[implosion]

I think I tend to be liberal with early townreads as both alignments. Probably the way in which my reads evolve over time is a lot more indicative of my alignment though I wouldn't be able to quantify exactly how.

I have a feeling that all of the alts I don't know are going to lead to some of my reads being mediocre but well that's okay I guess.

[implosion]

(Technically I should know who Vulture is since they joined a normal and I alt-check accounts before launching games, but I don't remember)

[The Coalition]

Normally I'd agree but I think this setup does discourage early game TMI townreads due to the possibility of autoloss with a correct 5-townblock. I could maybe see scum thinking that handing out key early townreads might buy the towncred needed to get themself into a coalition, but specifically Vulture at that point in particular I'm not sure would have been an attractive slot to TR for towncred.

You do have a point that it wasn't necessarily a strong commitment from Implosion at the time, so I guess we'll see where it goes, but on average I do think people who are more liberal with the townreads early game are going to be more likely town here

ok I MIGHT understand not seeing that GL is howling b4 this point because you don't have the knowledge of my role pM but like ....... this is blatant scummery of planting ideas to subtly suggest one is town. unfortunate for GL, this contradicts also their scumread on me because it shows their uncharitableness. I feel they targeted me in particular because they are very pressured and threatened by my coalition because it is pure and avoids their partner.

[The Coalition]

iverson, even if you don't townread implo yet, at least take the gas off and try elsewhere. I don't think you're SvT at all and definitely not SvS.

[The Cheek of Gamma]

iverson, even if you don't townread implo yet, at least take the gas off and try elsewhere. I don't think you're SvT at all and definitely not SvS.

This is a little rich considering your stance on GL.

~ C

[GuiltyLion]

How am I threatened by your coalition when it's literally the same as mine?! Especially when you updated it to match mine after I pressured you to do so + the last one w/ Shelby not making sense?

I suspected you because your early game was lamisty and performative. This new argument of yours doesn't make any sense at all.

[The Coalition]

just as an added thought to my previous post, in my experience when scum try to frame me as scum - they'll attack my playstyle primarily, because it is easily framed as scummy. (fact is, I can mimic it nearly perfectly between town/scum so its NAI) - and their insistence about garbage(that yes, is scum indicative for the average scum player who hates playing scum) like "LAMIST" shit is the type of stuff I'd expect scum to try to point out to push what appears to be a reasonable scumread.

[Iverson]

iverson, even if you don't townread implo yet, at least take the gas off and try elsewhere. I don't think you're SvT at all and definitely not SvS.

I have outed two townreads-one with extended justification, the other denied it by meta-elsewhere while you townread implosion for not being a potato and tunnel GuiltyLion for incoherent nonsense.

If implosion is town all you have to do is get out of the way.

[Vulture]

To be fair, Coalition tends to sound LAMIST-y... all the time.

[The Coalition]

iverson, even if you don't townread implo yet, at least take the gas off and try elsewhere. I don't think you're SvT at all and definitely not SvS.

This is a little rich considering your stance on GL.

~ C

the difference is my read is right

[The Cheek of Gamma]

The uncle shelby/Iverson coalitions are interesting in that they have each other in them plus pretty much the same constituents. Not sure what that means yet.
Iverson appears to be in everyone's wishlist with little effort.

~ C

[The Cheek of Gamma]

Just so I understand how this works, we all choose our coalitions then there's a vote of which coalition is best, is that right?
~ C

[Iverson]

My initial list was me+the 4 people below me in the playerlist. I haven't bothered to swap every readchange but Vulture should go in so far.

[The Cheek of Gamma]

Righto, is it too early to ask what you think of Uncle Shelby so far?
~C

[The Coalition]

Just so I understand how this works, we all choose our coalitions then there's a vote of which coalition is best, is that right?
~ C

5 people have to vote the exact same list of 5 people

[The Coalition]

that's why we have 2 weeks

[Iverson]

Righto, is it too early to ask what you think of Uncle Shelby so far?
~C

Yes, partially because I'm unfamiliar with him and partially because I'm out and can't easily revisit atm

[The Coalition]

My initial list was me+the 4 people below me in the playerlist. I haven't bothered to swap every readchange but Vulture should go in so far.

lmaoooo WAIT, I did the same too

yours had GL

GL also buddying you


yeah LMAO

[The Coalition]

big brain time

[The Cheek of Gamma]

just as an added thought to my previous post, in my experience when scum try to frame me as scum - they'll attack my playstyle primarily, because it is easily framed as scummy. (fact is, I can mimic it nearly perfectly between town/scum so its NAI) - and their insistence about garbage(that yes, is scum indicative for the average scum player who hates playing scum) like "LAMIST" shit is the type of stuff I'd expect scum to try to point out to push what appears to be a reasonable scumread.

I feel like GL is giving you opportunities to explain your stances and you keep shutting him down by avoiding the questions and calling him scum. I don't think he's misrepping/framing you unfairly.
~ C

[The Coalition]

literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability

[Vulture]

HEAL: GuiltyLion

[The Cheek of Gamma]

literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability

Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C

[The Coalition]

i want no part of any coalition with GL on it
VOTE: GuiltyLion

fun fact you can queue up an elimination to occur right after a coalition passes.

I want to see it happen this game.