White flag #824 game over

[Gamma Emerald]

But why would scum!Datisi go through with posting that regardless afterwards once he confirmed it wasn't indicative and I was consistent across the two games?

...why not? He'd just be doing it to emulate a town thought process. But etc.

I think dwlee's reaction to the votes on him is probably townish. It feels too willing to be in the limelight to be scum. I like Infinity's play so far though I'm definitely biased because she called me town when I was getting annoyed at the votes on me. Gamma's place in the game feels exactly like some distant memory of a game or two, years ago, where he was really contentious and I was hard townreading him and he was town.

the game I pulled my exercise from was probably from around that time if you mean what I think you do (the game I'm guessing you're referring to rn is Mini 1838)

[implosion]

the game I pulled my exercise from was probably from around that time if you mean what I think you do (the game I'm guessing you're referring to rn is Mini 1838)

It is that game, and I just found this gem of a quote from my ISO from the point in the game where I was heavily scumreading you:

And I think the most damning thing about Gamma (which I've mentioned but no one seems to have noticed) is still this flat-out contradiction. It's indicative that he doesn't actually have a consistent internal state of reads in his head; if he actually didn't hold the opinion that LUV was probably town, he straight-up would never have explicitly called LUV town. The fact that he called LUV town and then said that he doesn't actually believe LUV is town (just that a particular argument was bad) is very strong evidence that he's just pretending to have reads on people.

This isn't like me saying "gamma making contradictions is never scummy" but it is an amusing/interesting coincidence. I think Gamma thinks about things in a way that people can be prone to misinterpret. Although I also just don't agree that the thing bugspray mentioned is a contradiction.

[Datisi]

This is an interesting response because part of my issue with those posts are that they kind of

reminded me of things that i misread as town from you in the one game we've played together

(that I remember at least). Unvoting me is also very interesting.

could you elaborate on the bolded, like say what those things were/are? and what does ~interesting~ mean here?

[implosion]

interesting in this case means probably townish and i should have said that. or well i kind of implied that with the unvoting thing in the next sentence. My memory of what those things were/are are like, vaguely things that were actually playstyle. I'll need to find the game to be more specific than that. And I cannot for the life of me find it.

[Datisi]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=85788?

i was wondering if you'd be able to reproduce those things from memory, considering you said you found me suspicious over them, but /shrug.

[implosion]

Yeah I found it myself and looked over it and my opinion on you in that game was weirder than I remember it being. My memory of that game was mostly just like, I generally found you townish and I couldn't really remember any specific reasons other than them being things that in retrospect were probably playstyle. Even looking over it I feel like I don't have a great sense of it so I'll probably put minimal weight in my memory of your play.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Here comes the promised wall post.

It includes some pretty sweet stuff:

Spoiler: Colored ReadsList

Town As Fuck: GuiltyLion, Not Mafia, Gamma Emerald

Still Pretty Town: Dwlee, Infinity, GoatDude, Flea, Klick, Bugspray

Do Something Useful Already: Murdercat

Burn Baby Burn! Disco Inferno: Datisi

Should already be dead: Imploscum

Do not click on below if you are sensitive to me mercilessly flaming you (Love You Gamma)

Spoiler: Post by Post Analysis

Spoiler: TLDR Summary

Yeet Implo today, yeet Datisi tommorrow game over let's go

VOTE: Implosion

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm skeptical of the implo scumreads because I initially TRed implo in a recent coalition game and ended up getting talked out of it even though I was right, and I also think he's being town in this game so I want to stick to my guns here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I literally carried you in that Coalition game to the easiest win of your life so you should just sheep me.

yes I'm burning a post to talk shit but this game is basically over so I'll probably only have like 10 posts total this entire game.

Also lets gooooooooo

[Infinity 324]

do i really have to explain why implo is town

[Gamma Emerald]

Town As Fuck: GuiltyLion, Not Mafia, Gamma Emerald

the "plan" just involves picking two townreads to stick to for the duration of D1
I guess I can take a set of 3 as well honestly, so I'll just jot this down as your picks

[Datisi]

i absolutely don't believe pooky's read on me here is serious. whether it's a ~*reaction test*~ or a plain old shitpush remains to be seen.

[Flea The Magician]

yup. you do infy.

[implosion]

if pooky is town this will make his record for reading me 0 for 3. exciting.

[implosion]

notably, all of them being them calling me scum with me being town!!!!!!!!!

[implosion]

yes, i am in fact sick of pooky's shit!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't call you scum in coalition.

I said you were unreadable because your takes were lol bad and they were lol bad cuz the people you were townreading were scumbaggos who I didn't trust.

its not my fault you had bad reads and couldn't make it into my trusted top 4.

also you're welcome for the carry.

[implosion]

I didn't call you scum in coalition.

fuck off.

[implosion]

i don't care about not being in the coalition; i care about you making no effort to read me in that game but saying you thought my takes were bad, and now literally calling EVERY SINGLE POST IN THIS GAME THAT I'VE MADE scummy when you have a history of misreading me and claiming i'm hard to read

[implosion]

god this is the first time i've been genuinely angry in like months

[implosion]

i'm going to close MS for at least most of the day

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't see why I have to "Read" you in coalition when the win condition is "find 4 townies to chill with and just win" and I already had my four lol. I already told you in that game I'm not going for perfection, I'm going for a win.

also

I can't read angry AtE

someone who has experience with implo tell me if this is out of his scum range and I'll adjust accordingly.

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah this doesn't feel like his scumrange
I can link an implo scumgame if you like, it's the one that I pretty much use as my template to read him

[Gamma Emerald]

also pooky has a point re: the coalition game, because most people scumread two town but we still managed to exclude the two actual scum from the coalition

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did I troll implo into towntelling?

fuck im awesome

UNVOTE: implosion

carry on good citizens and hunt down evil-doers.

I heard murdercat is hiding in the forest somewhere being a baddie bad so maybe we yeet him instead.