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my initial impression of IV is that on a cursory look he isn't doing anything wrong?
Right now I would like to hear your thoughts on if Math and Unwnd's contributions come from town and if marci's behaviors are townie?
Right now I think that Math and unwnd's contributions did not come from town (Unwnd has done literally nothing and Math is obvscum and can explain more later. I do not believe MathBlade is scumhunting and I do not believe they are being an honest villager). I think that Marci is trying to pretend to be town. That was my gut impression earlier, that Marci is really just trying to look like she's a townie. And when I felt she responded to Dwlee's concerns, I saw that as how scum would react to Dwlee's concern.
what do u think scum!Math's agenda is here? as i mentioned in some of my above posts i don't really see it
In post 732, Save The Dragons wrote:i think they're actually pretty easy to read based on their images which means they aren't just shitposting, and i feel like scum!M&Ms doesn't take a break from posting images to give their reads in a readable format
STD i feel like you didn't really explain ur M/M townread even though you address it multiple times
why do you like they've posted/why are they easy to read through their images/why is scum not likely to drop the troll gimmick at some point
I don’t really see any real scum!indicative reasons? And most importantly, for the kind of player he is, who could he be scum with and whats the scum! motivation for his actions?
In post 781, Save The Dragons wrote:scum!M&Ms doesn't get bored of trolling. town!M&Ms have a different agenda and they presumably wanted to play mafia to hunt for scum. trolling doesn't accomplish that, so because they got bored they resorted to scumhunting. even if scum!m&ms got bored of trolling, they probably would have resorted to something else rather than fake scum hunting. that's what i think anyway.
i don’t really agree that there’s necessarily a big distinction here as you say
I am starting to feel like the directness and tone here there’s something here, I just don’t feel like I cna rly parse it into a townread the way you are
In post 805, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The scum motivation is that he is wying for control. And trying to dominate the game as an wolf and eliminate opposition.
I mean maybe
i still feel like there is a difference between what he is doing (pissing a bunch of ppl off, trying to aggressive shift people off of the main couple wagons), and an actual scum agenda to control everyone
maybe I just feel this way because I’m getting WK’d by him and not pissed off lol
In post 767, innocentvillager wrote:he's not doing a great job saving his partner marci or George if my elimination doesn't go through
Datisi I did say that as the first reasoning
But then my part two i think is basically just he’s not doing a great job saving Marci or George especially by whiteknighting me so really I think the only pairing to me that makes a whole lot of sense objectively is with me
Anyway I trust Datisi and am willing to give him the win for that spicy bus if he's scum so if everyone agrees we can kill IV/Alisae, jailkeep me to conf me, and then vote out the other of IV/Alisae and the game will be over. Deal?
@alisae why are you now saying i'm town (and apparently based on d2) when you entered the day voting me
@iv can you not shade for low effort i've been sick as shit the past three days, also what low effort i've been around constantly
@dwlee i agree with 1730
i did for a second wonder if ali/george is possible if no daytalk but rules said there is daytalk so yeah i guess not. the only other possibility there is if alisae was yelling at george in scumchat to fakeclaim and he was completely ignoring that which doesn't really strike me as something he would do? anyway effort from me by the end of the (irl) day, i still wanna rest my nerves a bit and that includes not stressing about mafia for now, especially since the mbos game just ended
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I could clog up the thread by responding to each individual one when I’m on comp but that’s a) effort/time I don’t have today and b) probably noise/not helpful for sorting anyone I’m trying to not just fight back with my ego
The core of my problem with most of is that it’s just narrative narrative despite me responding to their points and explaining how they’re bad it’s like those conversations never even happened. The new accusations Like wishy washy and not scumreads are a) recycled from STD’s case and b) just how I play/shouldn’t even be scummy in a vacuum without meta. I voted nor because I thought he was weakly most likely from scum something that has mostly stayed consistent throughout the game. There’s no reason any of these actions are scum and dwlee feels satisfied just pointing them out and goign ???
My progression on dwlee slot as far as I can recall has been “ehhh Faker looks townie through his proactiveness/solvy efforting and interactions with Datisi”, didn’t really care about dwlee until I realized I barely noticed them in the game and was shifting some attention there, and now a decent suspect that I don’t really townread. I don’t think dwlee has done anything out of town or scumrange really so I’m just not sure. I don’t see why they keep saying this is a horrible progression or whatever.
I don’t feel like the going all in on George being scum is necessarily THAT anti partnery. Iirc the context was just datisi’s single push and they could’ve taken a risk and hoped the day would converge on me instead since I was the leading wagon, but I’ll have to reread. I think the self towncase section is the part I’m most okay with tbh so I’ll need to give that a proper look
final thought is why are they going so hard and feeling so good about bombing two scum cases here? Like hello there’s only one scum in the game? This if anything sets me off the most as kind of scummy because i feel like u should know one of those is wrong and that ur just fitting reasons at that point to the read. I mean I get that we only need to find one town but in that case scumcasing the two other people instead of detailed towncasifn Datisi feels like the wrong mindset for town, whereas it makes more sense for scum to being in that mindset to shade Two remaining ppl to keep them elimmable
In post 1733, innocentvillager wrote:The new accusations Like wishy washy and not scumreads are a) recycled from STD’s case and b) just how I play/shouldn’t even be scummy in a vacuum without meta.
a.) Just means I mind melded with STD posthumously because I didn't recycle them, I read through your ISO
b.) Meta bad
Anyway you seem more legit, Alisae was scummy then just completely dipped from the thread when I started popping off so VOTE: Alisae
Don't go through with this lim til we have a replacement/Marci is back ofc
also I forgot where but I am genuinely sorry if you thought I was patronizing you that was not my intention and I can see how it could come off that way
yeah horrendous hammer if scum it literally makes no sense there was plenty of time and literally Ali could've just told George to claim asap
the chance of winning is way too small. no scum in their right mind would go into night without knowing who the PRs are - also Ali would've shot STD which was clearly wrong so scum!Ali didn't just know who the PRs were. Ali is good scum and probably would've made george claim earlier or yelled at him to claim before hammering. pending dwlee accepting death in the Ali vs Dwlee 1v1 i think im probablyyyyy good with this
dwlee can you talk about how Ali being scum here makes sense in this context? why would Ali hammer partner without getting him to claim it just seems like so ridiculous if he is scum
i honestly think the bus gambit by you or Datisi is far more probable than what Ali did
I think ur back off is normally scummy but actually thinking about it more do kind of consider it a positive because it demonstrates to me that when u “popped off” you didn’t really feel as tho you solved who was scum u Were just getting into it I guess? idk
In post 1732, Datisi wrote:@iv can you not shade for low effort i've been sick as shit the past three days, also what low effort i've been around constantly
that’s fine if u were sick hope u feel better Datisi!
it just feels like you went “oh my god this game is so hard I hate it” then disappeared for a day or 2
which almost felt a bit like u were faking emotions and just letting the rest of us duke it out while u chilled/waited for ur move
In post 1742, innocentvillager wrote:dwlee can you talk about how Ali being scum here makes sense in this context? why would Ali hammer partner without getting him to claim it just seems like so ridiculous if he is scum
i honestly think the bus gambit by you or Datisi is far more probable than what Ali did
Exactly because it's ridiculous is a reason to do it. I also think scum!ali here has in mind that he can no-kill to avoid any guilties and then ask for mass claim to get PRs to out themselves. Which is exactly what happened. If George claimed something then maybe Ali could have killed the jailkeeper one night sooner but no-kill into asking for mass claim outs the jailkeeper and can get a mislim.
In post 1742, innocentvillager wrote:dwlee can you talk about how Ali being scum here makes sense in this context? why would Ali hammer partner without getting him to claim it just seems like so ridiculous if he is scum
i honestly think the bus gambit by you or Datisi is far more probable than what Ali did
Exactly because it's ridiculous is a reason to do it. I also think scum!ali here has in mind that he can no-kill to avoid any guilties and then ask for mass claim to get PRs to out themselves. Which is exactly what happened. If George claimed something then maybe Ali could have killed the jailkeeper one night sooner but no-kill into asking for mass claim outs the jailkeeper and can get a mislim.
I mean why can’t the same be said for datisi’s bus on George (which he did try to back out of last minute)
Ali’s action very clearly and definitively hurts scum wincon, whereas your and Datisi’s actually probably hurt scum wincon in general but not for sure and you can use it as a good anti associative if ppl switch to me instead later after you get the strongman off? idk I’m just saying if anything it feels more like a questionable gamble by you or Datisi but suicide for scum!Ali
