Mini Normal 2245: LJITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.02

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-11-03 22:00:00).

yeet

camelCasedSnivy [3]:

marcistar, camelCasedSnivy, Gamma Emerald

NorwegianboyEE [2]:

DArby, Jolyne

Not_Mafia [2]:

T3, AliceK

not voting [4]:

Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, redtea, NorwegianboyEE

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[DArby]

I'm getting tired of these wagons going after low-hanging fruit with no real argument when this game has proven twice that isn't working. I'm willing to compromise on Alice or Norwe to push today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm getting tired of these wagons going after low-hanging fruit with no real argument when this game has proven twice that isn't working. I'm willing to compromise on Alice or Norwe to push today.

How can you compromise on me, when you're already voting me?

[DArby]

Miswording on my part. I'm willing to compromise on Alice, but I'd prefer you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Someone needs to take control if we're going to actually eliminate scum today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can feel the apathy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Miswording on my part. I'm willing to compromise on Alice, but I'd prefer you.

If i were to flip scum, where would you go next? And who do you think are potential partners so far?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: NM
he literally has no content in this game

[AliceK]

Miswording on my part. I'm willing to compromise on Alice, but I'd prefer you.

If i were to flip scum, where would you go next? And who do you think are potential partners so far?

He is either scum or manipulated by comunists.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wat?

[redtea]

but gamma that's just nm

snively literally has no content
but Darby has a point about low hanging fruit so
VOTE: Alice

[DArby]

VOTE: NM
he literally has no content in this game

See like this bothers me. Him flipping tells us nothing if he flips town and it's a gamble at this point voting him instead of pushing for people you can get content out of. I'd rather a push be on someone who has some credible scumminess.

Miswording on my part. I'm willing to compromise on Alice, but I'd prefer you.

If i were to flip scum, where would you go next? And who do you think are potential partners so far?

If you flipped read my FoS would fall on Gamma.

[AliceK]

Wat?

Bad joke. Sorry for that.

[DArby]

Miswording on my part. I'm willing to compromise on Alice, but I'd prefer you.

If i were to flip scum, where would you go next? And who do you think are potential partners so far?

He is either scum or manipulated by comunists.

Incorrect on both counts outside of maybe communism lol.

You flipping would be good push information on Jolyne either way and maybe redtea and marci. Not to mention I tr the latter two and (so far) trust their judgment more than most.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you flipped read my FoS would fall on Gamma.

Why?
I'd really like to know whether you're looking ahead.

[DArby]

If you flipped read my FoS would fall on Gamma.

Why?
I'd really like to know whether you're looking ahead.

Fair question.

The reason why I'd be suspicious of Gamma is that a lot of their posts come across like they're sheeping you from a distance. A lot of your strategy this game is going after low hanging fruit. For bigger pushes there was first Val, then Toxic, now Snivy. Gamma is the only person who has voted in line with you. (See: 350, 1075, and although there isn't a vote count their 1243 to your 1201). Sure, they then switched to NM just now but it's in the same game plan as yours which, so far, has failed twice. They're clearly knowledgeable of the game so I find it a bit rough to believe that they have town motivations following the same broken strategy unless they'd want to act as a town voice of reason to make sure you come across more town with your playstyle.

236 also came across rather weird but because it pertained to me I didn't want to have it come across as I was having an emotional argument. Toxic also pointed it out in 921. I can absolutely see it as scum trying to control the narrative. What REALLY pinged me (but again I really didn't want to come across as petty) was Gamma's 1173 which felt tone def to their previous post.

There's also Gamma specifically adding Norwe to the town block in 193. If you flip red this has aged poorly.

I'm sure there's more but this is what's been on my mind regarding this game the last day or so.

[redtea]

Does anyone remember any Darby/nm associatives at the top of their heads

[redtea]

do we wanna locktown jolyne for her gambit yday?

No I don't t trust it. I don't think it's scum but I don't trust it.

[Dwlee99]

Starting from somewhat nothing because I forget what is happening, I want to start with my norwee townread and say that redtea is town too for their townread on norwee too. I think it'd be easy for scum!redtea to not say something about meta to townread norwee

[redtea]

that's assuming me and norwee aren't partners. Is your tr in norwee strong enough for that or do you think it's unlikely we're partners?

[camelCasedSnivy]

How did my wagon even vanish wth

[NorwegianboyEE]

How did my wagon even vanish wth

I didn't see the scum motivation in voting yourself. Seemed like a very noob town move.
It can be faked as an mafia player in order to fake acting like town, but that requires more experience. And it also seems unlikely for an relatively new player to pull such an card in one of their first non-newbie games on MS.

[T3]

time to actually read iso's now

[redtea]

gl

[T3]

not to towntell, but this game started?

I think Jolyne is town for this. They did a very similar thing in Purgatory when they townslipped but then admitted they didn't read the setup to make them have a higher chance of townslipping and this is reminding me of that.

"Didn't read the setup" townslip is very dangerous as it is easy too fake.

T3 is being voted a lot. Is there a meta reason for that? I can't find anything ai in his iso.

I think one of the few posts that pinged me as sus earlier is Alice’s: "T3 is being voted a lot, is there an meta reason for that?" post.

The only way to get reads is to keep the very real threat of DEATH hanging over the heads of those that wish to mislead us.

PROVE ME WRONG.

VOTE: AliceK

Where is your head at ATM?

I see your point. I agree however I have a gut feeling that T3 is town and we should look somewhere else.

but there are better options for today.
UNVOTE:

like..?

Not_Mafia is for sure a better option.

But what is even better is to have a look at Val's wagon especially after this post:

That's E-2, in a game with Not_Mafia on the list. Just saying.

You all want me to play my Uno Reverse Card now?

which was a pr soft.

UNVOTE:

Dwlee, who is scum?

Why ask him in particular? Is he that good in scum hunting?

so I apparently only wrote down one of my thoughts which was that

Norwee is likely innocent

. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

the bolded part sounded tmi.

So I looked into it a bit more real quick. It's not a word I see used elsewhere in the iso (nor the abbreviated version), and almost no reason is given for townreading norwee except one post early on about how norwee "seems to be solving". Given the frequent interactions with norwee's posts, after being asked about norwee again later, I would expect something like "I agree with them a lot, I don't think they're misdirecting me, their thought process is sound, etc" but like. No. Just "norwee is town". Which makes me think Alice doesn't actually have a reason except for knowing it. Also makes me think they aren't partnered, because then I would expect more effort.

Srry that's all I have without doing more isoing

I just played with Norwee recently where he rolled scum. That's meta read

Pretty much all of these posts it seeemed like alice was genuinely solving