Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Harley Quinn]

lol this post made me laugh and its two years old
man i was even more sassy back then

Spoiler: The memories

Subject: Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

No I am just going for low hanging fruit like a moron pinkball.
I did respond to ur bad townread on Nancy though.

Are you ever going to explain why you’re scumreading me here. Pretend I’m 5, maybe that will get us somewhere.

Nancy I am a master at prediction, so this is what is going to happen.

I am going to tell you that I did have reasons and I pointed them out.
You are going to say those aren't reasons and for me to explain them or will say that I didn't come up with reasons for scumreading you.
Then I will repeat that I did.
Then you will say the same thing as you did before.

Then we shall repeat this dance all into the night while everyone watches wondering how crazy I am for participating.
Would you like to start?

Gay Dance was my favourite scum dance game, because I essentially just slept my way to a win. I actually didn’t have a choice in that because I was really really sick att but winning at scum while doing essentially nothing, is hands down my preferred way of winning.

@Galron, wrt to AtE, that’s actually nia for me, as are dumbtelling and activity but what I don’t have as scum but do as town in conviction and that’s why I say that I’m well out of my scumrange in this game.

[Titus]

is std's vote on my pair anything other than shallow omgus or? i see he said he needs to reasses gl and i don't see that that actually happened prior to voting us

titus, has this been addressed in the hood? because it sure has not been addressed in the main thread

i'm assuming 5120 to mean you're starting to lean town on me, and i'm confused how does liking my tone overcome all the other issues you've had with me?

The most recent thing in the hood is StD talking about not liking Fire.

I'll mention all things, even if contradictory. My goal is to find the truth, which means looking at everything. Nothing precludes you from being stubborn, confbiased town. The question is if you're that or scum because I am not wrong on my townreads.

[Datisi]

so std has not said anything about gl?

[Galron]

I don't get the point of taking info from a game 2 years old, people change

What's the point of this? I agree meta is trash, but that's all anyone talks about. So what bothers you about that post specifically?

[Datisi]

because I am not wrong on my townreads.

mmm. this is something i associate with your scumgame more than your towngame. question to the table, should i be worried here?

[Taly]

what if

titus

is wrong on her townread on me tho

[Harley Quinn]

Okay, now I’m really confused. Why would you say you wanted her to endgame if you weren’t really tr her?

Because if she was town, I definitely did want her to endgame because she's a super strong player, but only with someone I knew was a townie. At that point, I wanted either LLD or Alyssa to endgame, with a town partner of course, and that's why I proposed to both of them. But if I was in a PT with them and didn't think that they were town, I would leave and make sure they didn't endgame. I wanted that control/option/opportunity.

But you generally don’t say you want a player to endgame unless you already have a strong tr on them. I don’t say I want someone to endgame and then solve. I only say that if my solve on them reads strong town.

I don't have a response to this other than I didn't see it that way and still don't. I want the strongest town player to endgame. Both LLD and Alyssa met the first criterion, and I wanted to see if they met the second. That may be because this is my first dance game, and maybe I should be looking at it like you and Guilty Lion do (I think what you just said is what he was trying to get across to me; you just said it in a more elegant, understandable fashion)

Does that make sense?

Well, flattery gets you almost anywhere with me. <3

Pair was a dance game just not a loverized dance game but you’re playing very differently than heart.

Sp my solve is once again up in the air. Only things I’m super confident on are Shiro, Alyssa, Fire town.

Oh one other thing, @Galron, I can tr, sr or nullread players as any alignment irrespective of whether or not they’re pushing me. So that’s another thing you can’t reliably AI read me off of.

[Harley Quinn]

3. I need to reassess Firebringer because apparently there's a party going on in his PT with Andante, and that wasn't there in Merchant's, but could be he didn't click with Doubting Thomas?

Firebringer, is there anything to this?

me and andantes PT is not game related. We are posting in there a story, we doing it one sentence at a time right now the gunslinger is chasing the man in black and he might get the relic back but who knows. I will inform the whole thread what happens in next instalment.

quick question about that… i thought the man in black was trying to steal it, got caught and the gunslinger keeps chasing him? i’ve been assuming gunslinger bad cause yeah idk

I envy this. We’re just doing boring stuff like solving in ours. Perhaps the occasional memeing and pizza talk.

[Harley Quinn]

harley, i am going to ask once, this is not an attack, doubt, etc.

can you please share some of shiro’s thoughts from your pt?

none of us are psychic, and can see what you see. i literally just want to know what shiro’s been thinking/doing that he hasn’t in this thread. taly and i both scumread him because we feel he hasn’t done anything -in this thread- that he couldn’t as scum. i just want to know what i can’t see to see if it helps.

Town Taly would know to trust me here if he wasn't agency captured.

Give me a few reasons why I should rethink an opinion that I have recently made, and that you disagree with.

i would be most worried about the people not trying to push harley/shiro than anyone pushing them.
and yes STD i know my case is weak and u also are pushing those two.

Why?

@Taly,

This game seems to be devolving into camps. I find that unsettling.

Is that bad?

@Titus, I know I’ve asked you this before but what is “agency captured” again?

[Galron]

@Galron, wrt to AtE, that’s actually nia for me, as are dumbtelling and activity but what I don’t have as scum but do as town in conviction and that’s why I say that I’m well out of my scumrange in this game.

Self meta doesn't do anything for me, but I like how you are questioning my read on you.

[Titus]

so std has not said anything about gl?

Not recently in the PT. I don't think that's consistent with scumStD though.

because I am not wrong on my townreads.

mmm. this is something i associate with your scumgame more than your towngame. question to the table, should i be worried here?

You should always check me out. I have no problems with that. What I do have a problem with is you scumreading me for being correct and standing in your way. That's pride talking. My early game theory is correct so far and I see zero reason to diverge from it.

@HQ, Agency captured townies are townies who unwittingly work for scum.

[Harley Quinn]

I don't get the point of taking info from a game 2 years old, people change

@Galron, why not compare and contrast Dark Waltz II (town) and Dark Waltz III (scum) under THIS account? Those are much more recent.

[Andante]

It has been like 24 hours and Fire hasn't added to the story...

[Andante]

Maybe I should just write a novel... by myself... and sign it like "Author: Andante" take all credit

[Andante]

I don't get the point of taking info from a game 2 years old, people change

@Galron, why not compare and contrast Dark Waltz II (town) and Dark Waltz III (scum) under THIS account? Those are much more recent.

uhhh yeah no, using meta from 2 years ago?? lol I think 2 years ago was when I had a killer scum game, and got so many compliments for it, and it made me so happy So much changes in that time, also, what's wrong with just using this game? Why is there a need for meta?

[Harley Quinn]

okay, we are starting from page 200

I’m trying to see if Dats is on the level or not and he’s not giving me anything so far.

this? this shit right herE? this is fucking disgusting. if this was said by ANYONE other than harley, i would've started screaming bloody murder for the slot. she IGNORED the entirety of 4963 except for the most nai part of that post, she IGNORED 4953 when i reposted it FOR THE THIRD FUCKING TIME, and THEN she has. the fucking nerve. to say that i am not giving her anything. she has the nerve to say that holy fucking shit how much tunnel vision can one person have

I don’t see what your pont is with this? You have been better at reading me than in this game and you did miss Norwee’s townlocking of me.

What is there for me to engage with anyhow? You’re read on me in this game is wrong. So, unless I have completely misconstrued this post, I don’t understand exactly what you’re arguing here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VoteCount 1.18

Firebringer - Andante [0]
Taly - Ydrasse [0] -
Save the Dragons - Titus [3] - Firebringer, Datisi, Andante
Datisi - GuiltyLion [2] - Shiro, Save the Dragons
RH9 - Alyssa the Lamb [1] - GuiltyLion
Shiro - Harley Quinn [2] - Taly, Ydrasse
Galron - Something_Smart [0] -

Not Voting [6]

- RH9, Galron, Something_Smart, Titus, Alyssa the Lamb, Harley Quinn

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to execute

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-12-28 20:00:00)

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[Harley Quinn]

I hate GL's opening.
I hate Datisi's push on HQ and Shiro.
I hate how their reads are carbon copies.
I hate how they don't seem to acknowledge the viable scum pool is really low due to marci interactions.

we are past the page 200, how long are you gonna ignore everything else he's posted in favour of "hurr durr his intro bad"?

i explained my push mutlitple fuckign times. you don't even bother to understand why i think lily/marci can be s/s, you just go "i explained why this is not the case, and because you didn't agree with me i now think you're scum" like hello? and why should i not think shiro is scum. he's not doing jack shit in the thread, he apparently has reasons for voting me but he's still not saying what they are other than "datisi vote my pair" like what is townie about him??

they're not carbon copies
first thing to come to mind is that gl thinks you're cleared from marci scumflip while i think your push on me is disgusting
if i bothered to look i'd probably find more but not like that's gonna convince you of anything

i don't think it's low? i have like, 3-4, maybe 5 people i consider Really Town and the rest is a mess? like

Completely NIA but why isn’t your push on me/Shiro “fucking disgusting”? And you’re calling ME a “hypocrite”?

[RH9]

first game town lost and we have no IC. Congrats on win Nancy
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78670

So skimming this game and ND's ISO, there's an entirely different vibe from her than in this game. She is measured in tone, she deals in facts, and there is litte AtE from her. RC correctly called her out as scum pre-pairing, and she gave him a townread, in fact an obvtown read. Earlier than that she was getting scum read by Firebringrer and Ankamius, and while she did show some emotion from that, it wasn't as near as prolific as it has been this game. ND was Danniflor's partner and had him pocketed. And there was a point where she apparently threatened to rep out because she didn't want to go off on FB and get banned I guess, but she decided against the rep out. But the clarifaction on the rep out thing happened post-game. Taly (town) and S_S (town) were also in that game. Merchant's Daughter for those who care. ND top posted that game with 1100 posts, nearly doubling 2d place.

Doesn't appear that the scum PT was released, so I couldn't go through that. I looked through S_S's and Doubting Thomas's PT, and while it is just 2 pages, which is similar to mine and S_S's PT, S_S was much more into sharing his thoughts than he has been in his and my PT, which I find interesting and worth thinking about. Link here.

I looked through Firebringer and Vedith's PT, which is one page, and there isn't much in there from FB other than he wanted ND killed. Link here.

In that game Ankamius even links to another ND scum game where he correctly read her as scum (link here where the confrontation started), and while she does the scum read him back thing, it's not near as strong and emotional as her omguses have been in this game. Titus was scum with her in that game. And shiro was there too, but was town, and it wasn't a dance game. I didn't read all 73 pages of the scum PT, but I did see where Titus encouraged ND to express emotion (this post). But that was pre-Titus rebirth I believe, so I don't know how valid that is for this game. And, again, ND does show some emotion, but not near what HQ is doing in the instant game. That game was Heroes Wanted. ND had nearly 1400 posts that game, 2d most.

My takeaways:

1. HQ more likely town this game because of the raw emotional posting and prolific self-metaing (something else that was somewhat lacking in those other two games);

2. I need to reassess my TR on S_S because something is different even if it appears the WIM is high as it was in Merchant's Daughter.;

3. I need to reassess Firebringer because apparently there's a party going on in his PT with Andante, and that wasn't there in Merchant's, but could be he didn't click with Doubting Thomas?; and

4. I should ISO Titus in Heroes Wanted, both the game thread and the scum PT.

UNVOTE:

Maybe it is SS? Him shouting at me to get off my “high horse” was probably one of the most antitown things I’ve ever read in any game ever. He was essentially arguing that I should just lay down and die and accept our slot being miselimed. Short of outright toxicity or rule breaking, why the fuck would I ever - short of actually being lobotomized - ever do such a thing, especially with my hard tr on Shiro? He was also on the hard discredit Harley’s read on Shiro wagon and I think that pinged me as possibly disingenuous.

HQ, can you link me the post where S_S said that?

[Good Luck Buddy]

It has been like 24 hours and Fire hasn't added to the story...

It’s Christmas boss give me extension on my story

[Andante]

It has been like 24 hours and Fire hasn't added to the story...

It’s Christmas boss give me extension on my story

I know, it's all good!!! No rush!!!

[Harley Quinn]

My working theory is town was likeliest on the front hafl of the wagon

Marcistar - Not_Mafia [9] - Save The Dragons, Alyssa the Lamb,

Datisi

,

GuiltyLion

, Ydrasse, Taly, Not_Mafia, Firebringer, Marcistar

thonk

NM, Marci obviously excepted

[RH9]

first game town lost and we have no IC. Congrats on win Nancy
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78670

So skimming this game and ND's ISO, there's an entirely different vibe from her than in this game. She is measured in tone, she deals in facts, and there is litte AtE from her. RC correctly called her out as scum pre-pairing, and she gave him a townread, in fact an obvtown read. Earlier than that she was getting scum read by Firebringrer and Ankamius, and while she did show some emotion from that, it wasn't as near as prolific as it has been this game. ND was Danniflor's partner and had him pocketed. And there was a point where she apparently threatened to rep out because she didn't want to go off on FB and get banned I guess, but she decided against the rep out. But the clarifaction on the rep out thing happened post-game. Taly (town) and S_S (town) were also in that game. Merchant's Daughter for those who care. ND top posted that game with 1100 posts, nearly doubling 2d place.

Doesn't appear that the scum PT was released, so I couldn't go through that. I looked through S_S's and Doubting Thomas's PT, and while it is just 2 pages, which is similar to mine and S_S's PT, S_S was much more into sharing his thoughts than he has been in his and my PT, which I find interesting and worth thinking about. Link here.

I looked through Firebringer and Vedith's PT, which is one page, and there isn't much in there from FB other than he wanted ND killed. Link here.

In that game Ankamius even links to another ND scum game where he correctly read her as scum (link here where the confrontation started), and while she does the scum read him back thing, it's not near as strong and emotional as her omguses have been in this game. Titus was scum with her in that game. And shiro was there too, but was town, and it wasn't a dance game. I didn't read all 73 pages of the scum PT, but I did see where Titus encouraged ND to express emotion (this post). But that was pre-Titus rebirth I believe, so I don't know how valid that is for this game. And, again, ND does show some emotion, but not near what HQ is doing in the instant game. That game was Heroes Wanted. ND had nearly 1400 posts that game, 2d most.

My takeaways:

1. HQ more likely town this game because of the raw emotional posting and prolific self-metaing (something else that was somewhat lacking in those other two games);

2. I need to reassess my TR on S_S because something is different even if it appears the WIM is high as it was in Merchant's Daughter.;

3. I need to reassess Firebringer because apparently there's a party going on in his PT with Andante, and that wasn't there in Merchant's, but could be he didn't click with Doubting Thomas?; and

4. I should ISO Titus in Heroes Wanted, both the game thread and the scum PT.

UNVOTE:

Maybe it is SS? Him shouting at me to get off my “high horse” was probably one of the most antitown things I’ve ever read in any game ever. He was essentially arguing that I should just lay down and die and accept our slot being miselimed. Short of outright toxicity or rule breaking, why the fuck would I ever - short of actually being lobotomized - ever do such a thing, especially with my hard tr on Shiro? He was also on the hard discredit Harley’s read on Shiro wagon and I think that pinged me as possibly disingenuous.

HQ, can you link me the post where S_S said that?

I didn't know that the Open Listmod said such 'antitown things' that you've 'ever read in any game ever'. This sounds like the first time that I've heard such interesting things said.

[Andante]

It has been like 24 hours and Fire hasn't added to the story...

It’s Christmas boss give me extension on my story

I know, it's all good!!! No rush!!!

I hope you had/are having a good Christmas!!!

[Galron]

The line the two of you keep shitting up the thread the more I want to stab my eyeballs with shards of glass