Open 842: Diffusion of Power [Postgame]

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.01

morph the cat (1):

fua

Not Voting (9):

Cephrir, GuiltyLion, implosion, morph the cat, MegAzumarill, numberQ, Shirou, Tejate Raichu, Enchant

With 10 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is February 10 at 9:00 AM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-02-10 10:00:00)

[Cephrir]

Am I wrong in thinking the amount of ATE coming out of your slot this game is pretty atypical

[morph the cat]

Uh, this is about modern us.

Lots of scabs got picked open this game, too.

[morph the cat]

Dunno if I'd even call them Appeals to Emotion as opposed to just raw emotion.

[MegAzumarill]

I wanna send shirou but it's a bad idea today.
Makes me inclined for no lim but limming prolly best
Most likely lim for me atm is getting on the morph wagon

[morph the cat]

Am I wrong in thinking the amount of ATE coming out of your slot this game is pretty atypical

Wait a second you were in bloodstained you fucking well know what it looks like these days.

[fua]

my gut instinct is that morph is scum here. im not sure if this is weakened or strengthened by their d1 redtea push.

but i don't feel the need to jump into action quite yet.

my plan is to read redtea's iso soon. i will almost assuredly derive nothing of value from it, but it's an exercise that must be undertaken all the same. then i'll try to do the harder part of sorting the other direction of interaction

And I was moved by your day 1 lament that nobody every invites you to the big kid's table in games. Not that you did anything with the reachouts, but still.

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I'll be afk or mobile-posting (~snort~) for the next 8-9 hours.

Enjoy unmitigated neuterhalf for the duration.

If townreading you is a requirement for entry, the big kids' table is actually just for cowards.

DAAAAAMN. That was savage.

[numberQ]

I wanna send shirou but it's a bad idea today.
Makes me inclined for no lim but limming prolly best
Most likely lim for me atm is getting on the morph wagon

Can you elaborate on the no lim thing? Idk why you're inclined for no lim but you also think a lim is best.

[MegAzumarill]

Haven't matched it but I want shirou to get their result in case they are town then I want to kill shirou because I don't think they are

This what I want to do most and no lim gives extra cop checks when we have up to 5 unused checks remaining.
But EV tends to favor limming every day

[Enchant]

hello!

Read up to this point and I don't think morphs reaction is ai
Enchant should claim target and why

I healed mod of course.

Why i even should heal Fua which was specifically asked? Pffff

[fua]

Limming someone means that we don’t have to use a cop check on them later at night and narrows down the PoE significantly already.

With 2 unused cop claims mafia can’t hope to kill all of them (assuming one of them isn’t mafia already). With three nights left people are going to be guaranteed to get cop shots off.

This is why I think massclaiming is the right play for today. Mafia’s going to kill cops like Shirou and I anyway. Unless you want to massclaim on Day 5 when there’s 5 people left in the worst case scenario I think today is the time to do it. Doctors should claim what night they’re on so that they have to follow through with agreed upon targets. Cops don’t have to claim their night if they don’t want to.

Doctors: Enchant, AL, Imaginality

Cops: Fua, Shirou, NQ

Not massclaiming at this point in a known setup is the wrong move.

[Cephrir]

Am I wrong in thinking the amount of ATE coming out of your slot this game is pretty atypical

Wait a second you were in bloodstained you fucking well know what it looks like these days.

Hm. I guess I dont recall it looking quite like this.

[GuiltyLion]

I am thinking about massclaim, it does feel like a good idea especially since we are going to need to resolve what we want to do with Shirou and his claim - I am of the mind that he's likely just scum, but I'm not opposed to playing things out in a safe way in case he is town if we have a good plan for it - on that I think Meg is right, it would be correct to get his result and then lim him, then at least if he's town we would trust his result (especially useful if he claims a guilty)

fua you mentioned this but I want to be a bit more explicit, I actually don't think it's correct for cops to claim nights until we know what the doctor claims are. If there is a night we don't/won't have coverage, cops need to be able to hide whether their check is before/after that night

[fua]

I am thinking about massclaim, it does feel like a good idea especially since we are going to need to resolve what we want to do with Shirou and his claim - I am of the mind that he's likely just scum, but I'm not opposed to playing things out in a safe way in case he is town if we have a good plan for it - on that I think Meg is right, it would be correct to get his result and then lim him, then at least if he's town we would trust his result (especially useful if he claims a guilty)

fua you mentioned this but I want to be a bit more explicit, I actually don't think it's correct for cops to claim nights until we know what the doctor claims are. If there is a night we don't/won't have coverage, cops need to be able to hide whether their check is before/after that night

Yeah, I get that. I did mean until we know what the doctor claims are. Thank you for correcting me.

[GuiltyLion]

does massclaim order matter at all? I'll wait to see what a few other people think about this idea before claiming anything

[Cephrir]

I'm willing to roll with a mass claim. I don't think the order is important.

[fua]

I don’t think it matters in a known setup. I’m fine with it if people want though.

[morph the cat]

I'm fine with mass at this point, no idea what spay thinks but she's driving so fuck it, and I'm even fine with us being first since it doesn't mater much.

[numberQ]

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

[fua]

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

Yeah because it means protecting a cop who’s going to use their check which is more valuable than preserving a confirmed townie anyway.

[Shirou]

huh

I thought this was a fakeclaim from the start to be honest due to fua needing to "explain" their scum read on morph.

You...don't really explain a scum read on a guilty when you're kinda ~trusted~ by people...you just out the result and eliminate?

Hm, I still think Morph can be scum nonetheless though

[fua]

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

I mean there are two claimed cops already. Not hard for mafia to tell who might be protected. The point of this is to preserve a cop check at night which will confirm a townie or confirm a scum, the latter of which is a trade I’m completely willing to make.

[fua]

Oops. Didn’t realize the previous post sent.

[Cephrir]

I think it makes sense for cops to hide their nights for the moment too, especially since we already have a claimed night 3 cop. I suppose if two night 3 docs turn up this may be worth revising.

[numberQ]

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

Yeah because it means protecting a cop who’s going to use their check which is more valuable than preserving a confirmed townie anyway.

fua, you want doctors to out their nights AND only protect a publicly agreed upon target? Doesn't that just tell scum exactly who they can kill on any given night?

I mean there are two claimed cops already. Not hard for mafia to tell who might be protected. The point of this is to preserve a cop check at night which will confirm a townie or confirm a scum, the latter of which is a trade I’m completely willing to make.

These are both fair points even if you sent one of them by accident lol