Open 845 | 09:12 [Game Over]

[Dwlee99]

Slank dwlee best dwlee

[DkKoba]

well if im being honest if u are not PR and both galron and NM arent mafia you start looking sus

[Dwlee99]

Wow I sure do feel threatened

[DkKoba]

Good thing im vt so if i flip at night thats further evidence of you being scum

[Andante]

Prodding The Muffin Man

[Andante]

Vote Count 2.6

DkKoba (1):

Dwlee99

MalcolmTucker (1):

Galron

Frogsterking (1):

DkKoba

Not_Mafia (1):

Frogsterking

Not Voting (3):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, The Muffin Man

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline (expired on 2022-03-02 18:56:46)


Mod Notes:
DkKoba replaces House!

[Dwlee99]

Koba have you settled on an answer for who is scum

[Frogsterking]

Malcolm did you have any new thoughts on NM?

[DkKoba]

Koba have you settled on an answer for who is scum

Reading my ISO does wonders

[Galron]

I think you're increasingly scummy actually.

So you don't have a problem wagoning NM?

I think you're increasingly scummy actually.

I think you're increasingly scummy actually.

So you don't have a problem wagoning NM?

Also..are you experiencing townie paranoia?

I need to understand what you're asking because neither of these posts appear to have anything to do with what I posted other than physical proximity.

[The Muffin Man]

whoops, I forgot about this

I'll get round to this properly this evening but for now VOTE: galron

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Galron

[DkKoba]

E-2
Or , e-NM

[Andante]

Vote Count 2.7

Galron (2):

The Muffin Man, Dwlee99

MalcolmTucker (1):

Galron

Frogsterking (1):

DkKoba

Not_Mafia (1):

Frogsterking

Not Voting (2):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline (expired on 2022-03-02 18:56:46)


Mod Notes:
DkKoba replaces House!

[MalcolmTucker]

VOTE: std

All you NM

yay

Take that page 4.

yay

I talked with everyone in the scum PT and we've decided to concede.

I generally resist Koba's pushes, and every bone in my body says to resist this one because it's NM.

Vote someone other than NM and I'll sheep.

Alright, if I were to mount a case for Galron. Pretty much all of their early posts say nothing whatsoever until they decide to jump on the STD bandwagon as the fourth vote. Feels like a good time for mafia to do so...you're not the final voter, but also could play a role in tipping it over the line.

Then there's the sort of forced joke about how "we're mafia and we've decided to concede".

As I say though I don't think the partner is NM, not sure they'd be too direct at this point in pushing against them if it was.

[Dwlee99]

I mean Galron essentially hammered STD there

Think he is openwolfing

[MalcolmTucker]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

I talked with everyone in the scum PT and we've decided to concede.

I didn't agree to this

im gay and also have read none of the game

Omg same, wanna be masons?

ok so dwlee what if i told you that i was confident on NM being mafia?

VOTE: NM

and id be willing to bet that the PoE circles around them if i were to put in further effort

I'm town though

But I'm town

Again NM's style feels very similar. Drops a key vote to get STD out the game, makes a similar jibe to Galron about being mafia but no accepting a decision to concede, but doesn't really say much as a follow-up or give any substantial reads into the game at all.

Other players may have a better meta read on their playing styles but a lot of this feels like it could easily be mafia purposefully saying as little as possible while managing to eliminate a role player.

But again, a team with Galron strikes me as unlikely...too much interaction and too similar a playing style.

[MalcolmTucker]

I mean Galron essentially hammered STD there

Think he is openwolfing

Just feels like quite an early point in the game to do so right enough. Like I'm presuming neither Galron or NM (whichever is mafia) knew they'd be nabbing a role player. I wonder if for whoever is mafia that has potentially backfired since it ended up being such a key elimination for us.

[Dwlee99]

It's not that deep, it's a free elimination regardless of whether STD was a power role.

[MalcolmTucker]

Okay whatever UNVOTE: Galron VOTE: muffinman

UNVOTE: muffinman

214 I think is fake.

You don't scumread 214?

Oh okay yeah now that i took a second look at it i really feel town pings.

Oh okay yeah now that i took a second look at it i really feel town pings.

What initially gave you a mafia vibe and what turned you away from that so quickly?

I thought you were town telling so hard I got paranoid.

Once my levels of paranoia decreased i realized that you're super townie.

Malcolm and koba are persuading me to scumread NM

Reading through your ISO so far Frogster and a lot of this seems quite suspect.

You immediately opt to vote for MM, presumably since they'd been one of the key drivers of the day one vote. But instead of defending this read you ask Koba to defend their town read, which then gives you space to back down. This doesn't seem particularly townie...it can be a useful way for mafia to back away from a read that could be problematic.

And in a few cases (like me) you've flipped your reads quite quickly and at a moment's notice. I dunno if there's maybe a sense of trying to get Koba onside since they've been a prominent voice since joining the game, but it feels as if you're reluctant to make your own distinct reads.

That could just be your style though, and it's not always the worst thing for a townie to trust the reads of others and ask them for more in-depth opinions. But it can also be a way to conveniently avoid having your own takes.

[MalcolmTucker]

It's not that deep, it's a free elimination regardless of whether STD was a power role.

Well yeah but it also then puts Galron at major risk of elimination today. If that's just for a non-player role I'm unsure how much it's worth it.

[MalcolmTucker]

For what it's worth I'll probably still vote Galron because evidence on them strikes me as strongest at the moment, but more than happy to consider other options. Game has been quiet and a few players managing to remain silent without doing too much.

[DkKoba]

Id like NM first VOTE: not_mafia

[Andante]

Prodding Not_Mafia

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: malcolm okay this is based on a gutread and sheeping Koba's initial PoE. Gut read is on 214 not to trust. I lied about townreading malcolm to create overconfidence and see where he pushes.

I don't really have an

FoS

for the partner at this time. I might be able to read Koba's alignment based on read progression so I would like to see Koba present another attempt at a full solve.